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Old 11-28-2016, 09:15 AM   #1
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I see on my local Craigslist a 1931 steel top pickup for sale, one of the photos is of the body ID tag. The tag is for a Briggs body.
Did the Budd company just make the top and supply it to Briggs or did Budd make an entire cab? I understand that this truck could have had the top replaced with steel after it was produced.
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Old 11-28-2016, 09:19 AM   #2
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Budd made the complete cab. Either someone converted a sedan or they just added the Briggs tag. Without pictures it is hard to tell.
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Old 11-28-2016, 10:28 AM   #3
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Someone playing the "VIN game" probably bought a Briggs tag from a vendor and applied to the cab playing on ignorance of DMV personnel or was assigned and VIN and used the tag to display it.
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Old 11-28-2016, 12:13 PM   #4
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Is it this one? http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/5891145863.html
Looks like a Feb.1930 number

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Old 11-28-2016, 12:43 PM   #5
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Is it this one? http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/5891145863.html
Looks like a Feb.1930 number

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Looks like a serial number stamped into a body number plate. I would be very careful with this one. If the person at DMV knows what they are looking for there could be trouble.

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Old 11-28-2016, 03:48 PM   #6
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Did Budd make all the 30-31 CCPU cabs or just the later steel top ones?
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Old 11-28-2016, 05:24 PM   #7
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That is the truck I was referring to.
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Old 11-29-2016, 02:26 AM   #8
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Has an AA grille
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Old 11-29-2016, 08:39 AM   #9
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Some Budd info
http://www.coachbuilt.com/bui/b/budd/budd.htm
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Old 11-29-2016, 07:41 PM   #10
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Great article.
I still wonder, did Ford or Budd build the 30-31 Closed Cab body? I read in the above article that Budd built the bed.
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Old 11-29-2016, 08:43 PM   #11
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The truck in question has a AA grille as Mr Mellor pointed out. If an AA grille fits an A hood does that imply that AA cab is the same size an an A cab? Are A and AA bodies interchangeable?
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Old 11-29-2016, 08:46 PM   #12
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The truck in question has a AA grille as Mr Mellor pointed out. If an AA grille fits an A hood does that imply that AA cab is the same size an an A cab? Are A and AA bodies interchangeable?
Yes, they are the same.

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Old 11-29-2016, 10:21 PM   #13
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The tag in the photo is the cheaper repro (yellow) Briggs tag, and has nothing to do with that cab. All 1928-1929 closed cabs and the steel top 1931 closed cabs were built by Budd. The other 1930-1931 closed cabs were built by Ford. Cabs on Aa and A chassis were the same. The grille and radiator on 1930 AA trucks were thicker, but will work on any 1930-31 Model A if used together

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Old 11-30-2016, 03:23 PM   #14
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Great Article, Thanks for posting. A good friend of mine has a Budd pickup. I will share this great information with him.
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Old 11-30-2016, 04:39 PM   #15
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The truck mentioned in the OP appears to have a steel top cab and a narrow bed. The bed was superseded by the wide model in May 1931. The steel cab wasn't introduced until August of that year. Assuming the number on the Briggs tag is an engine and/or frame number, it codes to February 1930. There was a lag between production of parts and assembly of vehicle, especially since Ford tended to use up old stock before implementing new. But even allowing for that, there's too much spread in the dates on this truck. It appears to be a conglomeration of parts.
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My pickup is the '31 Budd cab (with the steel top), but came to me with the narrow bed. Given that it spent it's career in Southern California before I got it 7 years ago, anything could have happened. My firm belief, in talking to the gent that restored it in the late '80s, is that it came that way from the factory. I have seen all sorts of variations in '31 pickups, any combination of tops, beds, & firewalls.
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All 1928-1929 closed cabs and the steel top 1931 closed cabs were built by Budd. The other 1930-1931 closed cabs were built by Ford. Cabs on Aa and A chassis were the same. The grille and radiator on 1930 AA trucks were thicker, but will work on any 1930-31 Model A if used together

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If any of you come across a Budd cab wide bed for sale could you please let me know.
Thanks for all the great information.
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If any of you come across a Budd cab wide bed for sale could you please let me know.
Thanks for all the great information.
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If you do find one of these, try to get one with the fenders. The fenders are unique to this application and are not very plentiful. Good Luck
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If any of you come across a Budd cab wide bed for sale could you please let me know.
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Hi Bryan,

Are you still looking for a Budd late '31 pick-up?

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