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Old 10-05-2021, 04:55 PM   #1
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So, I just put on a freshly rebuilt Holley onto my 34 Ford (not correct carb for 34痴 but was on the car when I inherited it) I am getting fuel to the carb and I can see it shoot out the jets. Now that痴 all great but the engine is still not firing even after I have put on a rebuilt distributor, new spark plug wires, new spark plugs, and getting gas into engine. I am at a complete loss. Any help would be greatly appreciated!!
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Old 10-05-2021, 05:04 PM   #2
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Time to get out your multi meter/volt meter. Check for voltage to the ignition switch and
at the coil with the ignition switch turned on....
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Time to get out your multi meter/volt meter. Check for voltage to the ignition switch and
at the coil with the ignition switch turned on....
I will have to try this
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What was wrong that caused you to change these parts? Was it a running car beforehand?
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What was wrong that caused you to change these parts? Was it a running car beforehand?
The car was running about 20 years ago when it was parked. I went through these things as a list to hopefully get it running again.
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Do you have spark if you fit a plug to one of the leads outside the engine?

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Do you have spark if you fit a plug to one of the leads outside the engine?

Like this:

I tried this on the number 5 spark plug and I did have a spark. Tomorrow I plan to check others. I may even do the spark plug wires over again to ensure I have them correct.
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Remember that the #1 cyl. on a Ford Flathead is on
the right front (pass side) of engine, if it is LHDrive.

It's odd to have the #1 cyl., not be the furthest forward,
as the #5 cyl. on a Ford flathead is further forward.





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Remember that the #1 cyl. on a Ford Flathead is on
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It's odd to have the #1 cyl., not be the furthest forward,
as the #5 cyl. on a Ford flathead is further forward.





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Thank you for this reminder. Something else I was thinking about, is it possible something crawled into the exhaust pipe and has stopped it up? Thank you.
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Yes it’s very possible.....it’s almost a guarantee .......but the motor would still fire if you have fuel,spark and air......did the rebuilt distributor come with a new condenser?......Mark
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Yes it痴 very possible.....it痴 almost a guarantee .......but the motor would still fire if you have fuel,spark and air......did the rebuilt distributor come with a new condenser?......Mark
Just got done checking voltages. Starting at the battery there are 6.4 volts and at the coil I am getting 2.4 volts. Mark, condensers for these distributors are crazy hard to find now. I found a condenser with an original strap soldered on.
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Since it's obvious that you have a later 8BA-type engine and not a '34 ignition system, the schematic someone posted is not representative of what you have. Mac VanPelt kindly posts most of these drawings for our use. This drawing BELOW should be more appropriate for troubleshooting your later distributor/points/condenser. DD


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Since it's obvious that you have a later 8BA-type engine and not a '34 ignition system, the schematic someone posted is not representative of what you have. Mac VanPelt kindly posts most of these drawings for our use. This drawing BELOW should be more appropriate for troubleshooting your later distributor/points/condenser. DD


I have the dome distributor on my 34 Ford.
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What is the required voltage needed at the coil like I said I was getting 2.4 at the coil.
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I have the dome distributor on my 34 Ford.

Duh! I obviously misread Mart's post up above and assumed (ASS-U-ME) that the engine head shown in his picture was yours....SORRY! DD
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34 fordor owner, maybe list your location in hopes that
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Maybe someone close will see this thread, and come and help.

My '40 at one time, years ago, after sitting a long time, would
just spitter and sputter while trying to start it.
An old car guy came over, pulled the front distributor, and filed
and set the points, stuck it back together, and it fired up.





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Maybe someone close will see this thread, and come and help.

My '40 at one time, years ago, after sitting a long time, would
just spitter and sputter while trying to start it.
An old car guy came over, pulled the front distributor, and filed
and set the points, stuck it back together, and it fired up.





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Plenty of people in me area that have classics. Might have to stop one and ask for some help. That also sounds kinda like my case usually when I try to start the car, not this recent time though, it would sputter. I had the distributor rebuilt though so maybe the coil. Do you know how many recommended volts is needed at the coil?
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Does anyone have a good recommendation of where to get a good coil for a dome distributor?
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