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Old 06-03-2021, 11:41 AM   #1
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Default Identiy type of machine screw 46 woodie door handle

Ok, on the front doors of the woodies 46-48 there is a small hole on the INSIIDE of door that is inline with the outside door handle shaft. A small machine screw 10-32 with a long slotted head inserts into hole and screws ihto back of door handle shaft. What are these fasteners called so I can find one and buy it? Person that replated my parts lost one,I need another. thanks!
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Old 06-03-2021, 11:48 AM   #2
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Not sure but would most likely guess this is the type screw and IF so it is an Oval Head Slotted Machine Screw
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Old 06-03-2021, 11:50 AM   #3
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Nope,thanks
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Old 06-03-2021, 12:01 PM   #5
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10/32 round head slotted machine screw along with a star lock washer. (hardware store items)
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Old 06-03-2021, 12:05 PM   #6
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If it is a Round head like this, let me have the length and I "most" likely have one in stock in Stainless Steel, I will polish the head for you and send you "One".
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Old 06-03-2021, 12:05 PM   #7
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Tried taking pics and sending but no luck. The head on this type fastener is nearly as long as threaded portion. I think early 30's fords may have used this style of bolt on door handles also
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Old 06-03-2021, 12:07 PM   #8
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No and no. Those are both very common fastners. No lock washer
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Post a pic of the one you still have. It would help a lot.
We both posted at once.
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these are the other two commercially available types of head I can think of that it could possibly be IF not a Round, Flat or Oval head. IF its not one of these then its a "special" make screw!!!!
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Old 06-03-2021, 12:20 PM   #11
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46 WOODIE. nothing like other models. BUT, I have seen these bolts before. Similar to fillister but head even longer. Yes, may have been special made forvthis and a few other models
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If not round head then 'panhead'
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Old 06-03-2021, 12:24 PM   #13
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Cheese head is the only other style and between the cheese head and Fillister head its splitting hairs!!!! IF its not a cheese or fillister your SOL. unless you find someone here on the barn that has that particular screw
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Old 06-03-2021, 12:26 PM   #14
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Various earlier inside door handles were secured with nickel-plated #10-32 pan head screws.
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Old 06-03-2021, 01:35 PM   #15
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What you are describing sounds like a shoulder screw. You might try McMaster-Carr.com to see if you can find a size that works for you. The only one I found without a head is only available in metric threads.

Thread size=10-32, shoulder diameter=?, shoulder length=?

https://www.mcmaster.com/screws/shoulder-screws/

P.S. it looks like for a 10-32 screw the shoulder diameter will be 1/4" from McMaster-Carr.

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Old 06-03-2021, 02:00 PM   #16
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Alright,attached a pic,may help
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I have one. The head is nickel plated and7/16 dia and length is 5/8 and its brass .
If that works for you click on my user ID and send me your address.I posted this before I saw his picture.Oh well I tried.
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What you have pictured in the first post you will not find anywhere as a commercially available item. Support your local machinist!!!
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Sheldon,


That's not an easily-found fastener these days as the head diameter is that normally found on a #12 screw of the same type. They were used on early '32s to attach the dash to the cowl before the hole size was enlarged from #10 to #12.
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Thanks Sheldon, knew I had seen them before.
Dont have to have new. Someone from project will come up with one. Thanks deuce lover,looks identical to mine
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Am I the "only" one confused here??? What is pictured and as described in the "original" first post AND in post #11 was said to be "similar to a fillister head" AND did not acknowledge 51MercCT's post in #11 as being correct in his post #16..... is NOWHERE near what Sheldon has pictured AND the original poster said is the screw??????? ALSO in his post #7 stated "The head is almost as long as the threads" which is as far away from a pan head screw as you can get!!!! Call me baffled or did I miss something??????

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That's not an easily-found fastener these days as the head diameter is that normally found on a #12 screw of the same type. They were used on early '32s to attach the dash to the cowl before the hole size was enlarged from #10 to #12.

David, I all the 60+yrs goofing around with early Fords I have kept these leftovers so if it helps someone it was worth keeping . Sheldon
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Yes rockfla, you are confused
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Sheldon,


I learned a long time ago not to throw anything away and the result is a first class mess in my hobby building, but you never know when you or someone else can make good use of the leftovers.
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Station Wagon is totally different from passenger car. What is pictured in post one is the correct "screw". It threads into the very end of the handle shaft from the inside and is visible from the inside of wooden door panel. They are not reproduced by anyone. If you have access to a small lathe it can be easily fabricated. I would take a piece of 1/2" brass round rod and bore and tap it out to 10/32. Cut the end to a small dome shape and cut the screwdriver slot. I would then use a 10/32 set screw in the length you need. Have it plated and you're done. Let me make a few phone calls and I'll get back to you.
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I just Called two of my "old reliables" that have an inventory of Woodie parts. Both have door handles but they don't have the "screws", sorry. If you don't have access to a lathe I would take the "screw" that you have and take it to a machine shop and have it fabricated and even suggest the methods I would use to fab one. Most people don't understand that Station Wagon parts are unique.
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Make it from stainless steel bolt whose diameter is the same size as the head. Polish the stainless and you are all done.
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Am I the "only" one confused here??? What is pictured and as described in the "original" first post AND in post #11 was said to be "similar to a fillister head" AND did not acknowledge 51MercCT's post in #11 as being correct in his post #16..... is NOWHERE near what Sheldon has pictured AND the original poster said is the screw??????? ALSO in his post #7 stated "The head is almost as long as the threads" which is as far away from a pan head screw as you can get!!!! Call me baffled or did I miss something??????
Times 2 on that.

It would be a 10 minute lathe job to create one.
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If the head of the screw is below the surface of what it is holding, you should be able to make a replacement by drilling a short piece of rod for the diameter of the screw and using a pan head screw get the same effect. Length of the drilled rod would depend on the thickness of the pan head and the short piece of drilled rod so it would match the head height of the original.
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I might have a fairly easy solution for you. I don't know if you have ever dealt with McMaster Carr, but if you haven't they will sell to the general public. Check out part number 93230A645 its a 1/2" x 1/2" stainless steel spacer with a #10 hole in the center. Use that in conjunction with part number 91792A833, stainless steel, 10,32 x 1" domed shaped screw. Nobody will ever know the difference. Check out the part numbers on the MMC website and you can get a clear picture of what I'm describing.
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Sounds like a good solution woodywagon but Ill continue to look awhile longer. Handle wont fall off and looking at pics online some cars dont even have them anymore. Im sure Ford thought the 2 wood screws in the door may be weak after several years and handle tear off, he added this screw as reassurance. Meantime I'll look then use other solution if I dont find the correct screw,thanks
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Yeah, old Henry had the best engineers in the world. If he could save a dollar he would.
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Also thanks for the tip on Restoration Specialties! Been going to west coast shops to find parts,no more,these guys have everything!
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