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qmdv · 12-20-2015, 10:51 AM

Many years ago my dad bought a Motor City Flathead full flow oil filter. Dad is not with us anymore but the filter and some other flathead stuff is. Am in the middle of a 32 Highboy build with a 59 block.

Is it worth using the oil filter and looking for a place to mount the filter if I do. Any pics out there?

tim

19Fordy · 12-20-2015, 11:27 AM

Peruse these links and you'll get some ideas.
Probably be the firewall or mounting it on the cylinder head.
https://www.google.com/search?q=full...low+oil+filter

flatjack9 · 12-20-2015, 12:06 PM

On my 39, I have it mounted in the back of the fender well. I would try to put it in some obscure place.

Ol' Ron · 12-20-2015, 12:14 PM

I usuly mount them behind the steering box on the frame. Easy to change filters, less messy. I also use the 95% system easier to install, when building an engine.

V8 Bob · 12-20-2015, 01:45 PM

Here are a couple of pictures of the MCF installation on my '32. I made a bracket that bolts to the left side unused mount threads next to the crank.

JSeery · 12-20-2015, 02:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by qmdv

Many years ago my dad bought a Motor City Flathead full flow oil filter. Dad is not with us anymore but the filter and some other flathead stuff is. Am in the middle of a 32 Highboy build with a 59 block.

Is it worth using the oil filter and looking for a place to mount the filter if I do. Any pics out there?

tim

You do know that block modifications are required to use this filter, correct?

V8 Bob · 12-20-2015, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JSeery

You do know that block modifications are required to use this filter, correct?

No block mods are required with the MCF system, only a hole drilled into the oil pan.

Lawson Cox · 12-20-2015, 02:54 PM

Any way to put filter return line in oil pan without removing pan?

chap52 · 12-20-2015, 02:54 PM

Have the same system. Mounted the filter on the frame behind the drivers side running board. Easy to get to and not cluttering the eng. compartment.

JSeery · 12-20-2015, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by V8 Bob

No block mods are required with the MCF system, only a hole drilled into the oil pan.

How does it work, does it use a restrictor? Thanks

chap52 · 12-20-2015, 03:05 PM

No way to put that in the oil pan without removing. The supply lines for mine go directly from the oil pump, out through the oil pan fitting, through the filter and back into the block near the oil pressure sending unit. I have put about 4000 miles on this set-up with no problems. I believe my set up came with a stronger "Melling" type oil pump. Got it long ago from Hot Rod and Custom Supply which is no longer around.
I first found out about the system in Frank Oddo's "Ford Flathead V-8 Builders Handbook. (page 87-94} Shows photos and covers the modification quite thoroughly.

V8 Bob · 12-20-2015, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JSeery

How does it work, does it use a restrictor? Thanks

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lawson Cox

Any way to put filter return line in oil pan without removing pan?

The MCF system uses a modified oil pump which requires the pan to be removed and the 3/4" exit hole to be made. Oil is then pumped though the oil pan fitting, into a full flow fliter, and back into the block at the top rear main galley, where the original pump delivered oil.

Lawrie · 12-20-2015, 03:25 PM

Do yourself a favour and use aeroquip AN screw to gather hose and fittings,not the push lock stuff and a hose clamp.
Lawrie

JSeery · 12-20-2015, 03:29 PM

Ok, I'm familiar with that setup, I considered that an engine mod, maybe the wrong word to use!

19Fordy · 12-20-2015, 03:46 PM

V8Bob, That really is a nice set up.

V8 Bob · 12-20-2015, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Lawrie

Do yourself a favour and use aeroquip AN screw to gather hose and fittings,not the push lock stuff and a hose clamp.
Lawrie

Lawrie, all my fittings are Aeroquip, along with compatible premium push-on Goodyear hose. I added the clamps just for extra insurance, but have never had or heard of a problem. Would appreciate any issues you know of, or have had with push lock hose.

hardtimes · 12-20-2015, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Lawson Cox

Any way to put filter return line in oil pan without removing pan?

Hey Lawson,
There is a way, but maybe not to everyone's satisfaction.
An old timer, who I got a pan from, brazed a male fitting onto side near bottom of pan. To look at it, did not look bad at all. He just drained pan, cleaned area and brazed fitting.

JSeery · 12-20-2015, 04:10 PM

So, we're not looking for an oil pan return line are we? The line to the engine would be the oil sender location, the pan fitting is the pressure line from the pump, correct?

41Joe · 12-20-2015, 04:29 PM

I believe this is what kind of setup V8Bob has. Maybe not the exact one, but similar idea.
http://www.flatheadspeedandmachine.c...sion-kits.html

V8 Bob · 12-20-2015, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSeery

So, we're not looking for an oil pan return line are we? The line to the engine would be the oil sender location, the pan fitting is the pressure line from the pump, correct?

Quote:

Originally Posted by 41Joe

I believe this is what kind of setup V8Bob has. Maybe not the exact one, but similar idea.
http://www.flatheadspeedandmachine.c...sion-kits.html

Both correct, except the MCF system uses a ss braided hose instead of a solid line.
The MCF system has been around for well over 20 years. Surprised so many flathead guys are just discovering it! :-)

12-20-2015, 10:51 AM	#1
qmdv Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Payette, ID Posts: 936	Full flow oil filter Many years ago my dad bought a Motor City Flathead full flow oil filter. Dad is not with us anymore but the filter and some other flathead stuff is. Am in the middle of a 32 Highboy build with a 59 block. Is it worth using the oil filter and looking for a place to mount the filter if I do. Any pics out there? tim

12-20-2015, 11:27 AM	#2
19Fordy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Coral Springs FL Posts: 10,942	Re: Full flow oil filter Peruse these links and you'll get some ideas. Probably be the firewall or mounting it on the cylinder head. https://www.google.com/search?q=full...low+oil+filter

12-20-2015, 12:06 PM	#3
flatjack9 Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Oshkosh, Wi Posts: 4,526	Re: Full flow oil filter On my 39, I have it mounted in the back of the fender well. I would try to put it in some obscure place.

12-20-2015, 12:14 PM	#4
Ol' Ron Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chester Vt Posts: 8,860	Re: Full flow oil filter I usuly mount them behind the steering box on the frame. Easy to change filters, less messy. I also use the 95% system easier to install, when building an engine.

12-20-2015, 01:45 PM	#5
V8 Bob Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Granger (Northern) Indiana Posts: 1,520	Re: Full flow oil filter Here are a couple of pictures of the MCF installation on my '32. I made a bracket that bolts to the left side unused mount threads next to the crank.

12-20-2015, 02:54 PM	#8
Lawson Cox Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Above the gnat line in Georgia Posts: 7,009	Re: Full flow oil filter Any way to put filter return line in oil pan without removing pan? __________________ Life is like a roll of toilet paper. The closer to the end, the faster it goes. It is better to be seen, than viewed. "We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm".

12-20-2015, 02:54 PM	#9
chap52 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Marana Arizona Posts: 1,776	Re: Full flow oil filter Have the same system. Mounted the filter on the frame behind the drivers side running board. Easy to get to and not cluttering the eng. compartment.

12-20-2015, 03:05 PM	#11
chap52 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Marana Arizona Posts: 1,776	Re: Full flow oil filter No way to put that in the oil pan without removing. The supply lines for mine go directly from the oil pump, out through the oil pan fitting, through the filter and back into the block near the oil pressure sending unit. I have put about 4000 miles on this set-up with no problems. I believe my set up came with a stronger "Melling" type oil pump. Got it long ago from Hot Rod and Custom Supply which is no longer around. I first found out about the system in Frank Oddo's "Ford Flathead V-8 Builders Handbook. (page 87-94} Shows photos and covers the modification quite thoroughly. Last edited by chap52; 12-21-2015 at 01:23 PM.

12-20-2015, 03:25 PM	#13
Lawrie Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Qld, Australia Posts: 4,215	Re: Full flow oil filter Do yourself a favour and use aeroquip AN screw to gather hose and fittings,not the push lock stuff and a hose clamp. Lawrie

12-20-2015, 03:29 PM	#14
JSeery Member Emeritus Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Wichita KS Posts: 16,132	Re: Full flow oil filter Ok, I'm familiar with that setup, I considered that an engine mod, maybe the wrong word to use! Last edited by JSeery; 12-29-2015 at 08:01 PM.

12-20-2015, 03:46 PM	#15
19Fordy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Coral Springs FL Posts: 10,942	Re: Full flow oil filter V8Bob, That really is a nice set up.

12-20-2015, 04:10 PM	#18
JSeery Member Emeritus Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Wichita KS Posts: 16,132	Re: Full flow oil filter So, we're not looking for an oil pan return line are we? The line to the engine would be the oil sender location, the pan fitting is the pressure line from the pump, correct?

12-20-2015, 04:29 PM	#19
41Joe Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Posts: 284	Re: Full flow oil filter I believe this is what kind of setup V8Bob has. Maybe not the exact one, but similar idea. http://www.flatheadspeedandmachine.c...sion-kits.html