Full-flow oil filter adaptation...

[Special Coupe Frank]

I have been looking at the full-flow oil filter kits that employ a redesigned valve cover, and a length of copper tube that slips inside the horizontal steel tube that supplies oil to the front section of the valve gallery.

It seems that that copper tube just telescopes inside the steel supply tube... wouldn't there be leakage ? It does not seem as though any "positive" type of sealing would occur with this set-up.



Thanks,

SC Frank

[CarlG]

If you are worried about what little "leakage" you would have there, fashion a "seal" around the copper tube. What little gets by the tube is really inconsequential.

[tbirdtbird]

it is a very snug fit, very little loss.
Oil filter gets pretty hot, so something must be happening......

[Special Coupe Frank]

Okay...

Is there any sort of relief valve in the filter so that the engine gets oil should the filter should clog ? ( I know this is unlikely, but if we're sending all of the pump output through filter, it seems like a possibility...)

I would like to have a filter on my rebuilt engine, just want it to be effective and fail-safe.

Frank

[Synchro909]

I think a filter could only clog if maintenance is poor and if it is that poor, you are going to have trouble what ever setup you have.

[Mitch//pa]

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Oil and filters are cheap and should be changed periodically.. If your engine has that much crap in it you had better clean it out first

[Special Coupe Frank]

It'll be going on a squeaky-clean, fresh rebuild.

I'm just one of those guys that thinks about the "what if's "...

[JohnLaVoy]

We've used them on a couple of cars work very well. We add the 90 degree adapter available at speedway that allows the filter to be vertical. But that is just something that I like it lets you fill the filter before installing it.

[PC/SR]

Oil filters have a relief valve on them in case they get clogged. Get the adapter John mentions. Besides being easier to fill when they are vertical, and remove without spilling all over everything when removed, they do not drain half out when idle.

[Dodge]

"What if" we told you to just put it on and not worry about it......they work well.

[tbirdtbird]

"Oil filters have a relief valve on them in case they get clogged."

indeed they do........

[updraught]

I think the valve opens on a cold start.

Anyway, an interesting comparison of air and oil filters here:

http://www.gmtruckcentral.com/articl...lterstudy.html
Results
http://www.gmtruckcentral.com/articl...gradesheet.htm


Air filter
http://www.gmtruckcentral.com/articl...ter-study.html

[Mitch//pa]

[QUOTE=updraught;1318981]I think the valve opens on a cold start.

Yes it can Depending on some variables, pressure, oil thickness, filter media

[Beater]

who sells that style of filter adapter?

[CarlG]

Originally Posted by JohnLaVoy

We've used them on a couple of cars work very well. We add the 90 degree adapter available at speedway that allows the filter to be vertical. But that is just something that I like it lets you fill the filter before installing it.

Originally Posted by Beater

who sells that style of filter adapter?

Here's a couple: (probably lots of others)

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/f...-a50/overview/

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Ford-R...ter,27896.html

[Special Coupe Frank]

Model A suppliers also carry this one at nearly the same price.

[JohnLaVoy]

It is nice that it has the Ford script on the adapter!

[goodoldvic]

I found the 90 degree on ebay for 29.00 used, its on my fresh Schwalms rebuild.

[Dodge]

You can get a wrecking yard one off of a 4.0 Ford Explorer, its a little different, but if
you use the bolt that comes with it and take out the threaded nipple the filter goes on the
bolt will screw right into the adapter plate. They can be had for $25-35 dollars.
I've used a couple of them so far.
I think thats the one goodoldvic used in the above post also. See his picture.

[Neil Mylar LakewoodCA]

Dodge,
Will this one work?
It is off of a 2001 4.0 explorer.
Regards, Neil

[CarlG]

Neil,
Looks like it would work. There should be another piece that goes thru the hole in the left side as pictured that would screw into the boss on the valve cover.

[Beater]

actually I ment who sells that adapter valve gallery cover that takes that style I guess plobably all the supplyers but ive never seen it

[CarlG]

Most all the Model A vendors sell the valve cover type filter.

Here's a link to Snyder's listing:
http://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/oil-filter-kit

Mike's:
http://www.mikes-afordable.com/product/A6705F.html

Bratton's:
https://www.brattons.com/oil-filter-kit.html

[Dodge]

Yes Neil it will work, you should have the bolt that holds it on and an O-ring also.

[Neil Mylar LakewoodCA]

Thanks CarlG and Dodge.
I just bought one on ebay for $20, which included free shipping.
What a great savings.
Neil

[jfreddie]

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I like to keep mine horizontal, keeps more in the fan slipstream for better oil cooling.
I find there's only about a tablespoon loss of oil when changing after engine shutdown for about an hour. Half the oil in the filter drains very quickly into the valve chamber. Just hold a rag or paper towel under the front of the filter while you quickly spin it off.
You can fill the filter about half way with new oil and spin it on without spilling.
Best part about the filter is it gives another quart of oil in the system.

[Special Coupe Frank]

Thanks to all who joined-in on this thread!

I'm sold on it, the rebuild is getting the full-flow filter.

[Beater]

I'm thinking I will add one to mine aswell