The Ford Barn

jabberwoki · 01-28-2014, 08:01 PM

So in the future I`ll be starting on my starliner and will be removing the glass. The car has tinted glass that I love and I`m tossing and turning about removing the back window and effing it up.
I`m sure a replacement will not only be hard to find but bloody expensive.
So I`ll looking for tips and advise.
Thanks.

streetdreams · 01-29-2014, 12:39 PM

Last '61 Starliner I sold couple years ago was a mess, other than good backlight and roof trim. Went for $700, to somebody specifically for above items. I'd be real careful and think whether it has to come out or not. If you do take it out, cut all the old seal all the way around the glass on the outside to the point you can push the glass out easily. You may have to cut back under the trim, which may come with the glass/seal on removal. They go in a lot easier with a new seal. the risk is getting them out. DO NOT pry or lift on one corner when removing.

darrell · 01-29-2014, 02:24 PM

streetdreams is right on I took the windshield out of an edsel the same way.

darrell · 01-29-2014, 02:25 PM

one thing I forgot can you even get a rubber for thst back window.

frank long island · 01-29-2014, 02:39 PM

go with above information wait for warm weather let the sun warm the seal I'm guessing it's set in a rubber gasket slice from the top at roof line and under the glass line {between the glass an rubber} on the outside you should be able to expose the edge of the glass when you have it exposed all around apply pressure from the inside pushing gently around the glass and it should come out you can't cut to much gasket as your not using it again so hack away good luck

lowandratty · 01-29-2014, 06:04 PM

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Spend a few bucks and get a real glass guy to come over and cut it out, then pay him to install it after your done, you can not beat a guy at his own game. If you spent $100 to get it out and back in, that is a lot cheeper than paying for a new glass or a good used glass. One mistake with it and your done. It is easy to crack one, after it's done you can say " I could have done that " or you can say " I wish I would have had paid to get it done right "
???? what is cheeper. Just my .02

frank long island · 01-29-2014, 07:57 PM

those were my thoughts also since this glass is hard to find just offered some tricks that have worked in the past according to budget the flip side is no guarantee that the glass man won't break it and he is not responsible if it breaks

ford3 · 01-29-2014, 08:43 PM

some things are better left to the experts at glass shops, and this is one of them, an expensive and hard to find part to take a chance on breaking, have a good glass shop remove and reinstall it, the other thing to leave to the professionals is upholstery work, one crooked seam, especially in a head liner can ruin the job and your day

mercman from oz · 01-30-2014, 12:02 AM

Just as rare as the Rear Glass on these 1961 Starliners, is the Windscreen. The only cars that the Windscreen is interchangeable with are the 1960/61 Starliner, plus the 1960 Edsel Coupe. However, the Windscreens may have been available as replacements at some time, but any remaining would not be cheap. The Windscreens out of the Convertible or regular Hardtops do not interchange.

mercman from oz · 01-30-2014, 12:15 AM

Here are some pictures of a very nice 1961 Ford Starliner that I saw at a recent Toowoomba Swap Meet.

jabberwoki · 01-30-2014, 12:34 AM

Mmm make me wonder how many would be over in oz? I`m planning on bringing mine home oneday

mercman from oz · 01-30-2014, 04:24 AM

A friend of mine has an unrestored one that he is working on, so that makes 2?

darrell · 01-30-2014, 10:42 AM

only seen one in my life.i don't think they were made in Canada.

streetdreams · 01-30-2014, 02:02 PM

You see them often here in the states. The '61s that is. Which is weird because there were something like 50,000 1960s made and about 29000 '61s. More 61s around for some reason. I've got a '60 and you hardly ever see those.

mercman from oz · 01-30-2014, 11:16 PM

Just read where the Wood Brothers have built a Replica of the 1961 Ford Starliner that was Sponsored by Courtesy Ford. Beautiful.

darrell · 01-31-2014, 09:53 AM

these are beautiful cars.i just saw the one as I said back in 69 at that time I didn't know they exsisted.it was all white I was standing on a corner in Toronto took my breath away.

mikhett · 01-31-2014, 03:29 PM

I do everything except glass on all my restorations.Glass is too epensive to muck up!

01-28-2014, 08:01 PM	#1
jabberwoki Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: puyallup Posts: 10	1961 Starliner glass question So in the future I`ll be starting on my starliner and will be removing the glass. The car has tinted glass that I love and I`m tossing and turning about removing the back window and effing it up. I`m sure a replacement will not only be hard to find but bloody expensive. So I`ll looking for tips and advise. Thanks.

01-29-2014, 12:39 PM	#2
streetdreams Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Howell, Michigan, USA, The Peoples Slightly Overspent Demodependancy of Michigan Posts: 638	Re: 1961 Starliner glass question Last '61 Starliner I sold couple years ago was a mess, other than good backlight and roof trim. Went for $700, to somebody specifically for above items. I'd be real careful and think whether it has to come out or not. If you do take it out, cut all the old seal all the way around the glass on the outside to the point you can push the glass out easily. You may have to cut back under the trim, which may come with the glass/seal on removal. They go in a lot easier with a new seal. the risk is getting them out. DO NOT pry or lift on one corner when removing.

01-29-2014, 02:24 PM	#3
darrell Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: p.e.i. Posts: 1,060	Re: 1961 Starliner glass question streetdreams is right on I took the windshield out of an edsel the same way.

01-29-2014, 02:25 PM	#4
darrell Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: p.e.i. Posts: 1,060	Re: 1961 Starliner glass question one thing I forgot can you even get a rubber for thst back window.

01-29-2014, 02:39 PM	#5
frank long island Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: westbury ny Posts: 854	Re: 1961 Starliner glass question go with above information wait for warm weather let the sun warm the seal I'm guessing it's set in a rubber gasket slice from the top at roof line and under the glass line {between the glass an rubber} on the outside you should be able to expose the edge of the glass when you have it exposed all around apply pressure from the inside pushing gently around the glass and it should come out you can't cut to much gasket as your not using it again so hack away good luck

01-29-2014, 06:04 PM	#6
lowandratty Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 55	Re: 1961 Starliner glass question Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Spend a few bucks and get a real glass guy to come over and cut it out, then pay him to install it after your done, you can not beat a guy at his own game. If you spent $100 to get it out and back in, that is a lot cheeper than paying for a new glass or a good used glass. One mistake with it and your done. It is easy to crack one, after it's done you can say " I could have done that " or you can say " I wish I would have had paid to get it done right " ???? what is cheeper. Just my .02

01-29-2014, 07:57 PM	#7
frank long island Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: westbury ny Posts: 854	Re: 1961 Starliner glass question those were my thoughts also since this glass is hard to find just offered some tricks that have worked in the past according to budget the flip side is no guarantee that the glass man won't break it and he is not responsible if it breaks

01-29-2014, 08:43 PM	#8
ford3 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: oroville calif. Posts: 1,453	Re: 1961 Starliner glass question some things are better left to the experts at glass shops, and this is one of them, an expensive and hard to find part to take a chance on breaking, have a good glass shop remove and reinstall it, the other thing to leave to the professionals is upholstery work, one crooked seam, especially in a head liner can ruin the job and your day

01-30-2014, 12:02 AM	#9
mercman from oz Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 10,372	Re: 1961 Starliner glass question Just as rare as the Rear Glass on these 1961 Starliners, is the Windscreen. The only cars that the Windscreen is interchangeable with are the 1960/61 Starliner, plus the 1960 Edsel Coupe. However, the Windscreens may have been available as replacements at some time, but any remaining would not be cheap. The Windscreens out of the Convertible or regular Hardtops do not interchange.

01-30-2014, 12:34 AM	#11
jabberwoki Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: puyallup Posts: 10	Re: 1961 Starliner glass question Mmm make me wonder how many would be over in oz? I`m planning on bringing mine home oneday

01-30-2014, 04:24 AM	#12
mercman from oz Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 10,372	Re: 1961 Starliner glass question A friend of mine has an unrestored one that he is working on, so that makes 2?

01-30-2014, 10:42 AM	#13
darrell Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: p.e.i. Posts: 1,060	Re: 1961 Starliner glass question only seen one in my life.i don't think they were made in Canada.

01-30-2014, 02:02 PM	#14
streetdreams Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Howell, Michigan, USA, The Peoples Slightly Overspent Demodependancy of Michigan Posts: 638	Re: 1961 Starliner glass question You see them often here in the states. The '61s that is. Which is weird because there were something like 50,000 1960s made and about 29000 '61s. More 61s around for some reason. I've got a '60 and you hardly ever see those.

01-31-2014, 09:53 AM	#16
darrell Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: p.e.i. Posts: 1,060	Re: 1961 Starliner glass question these are beautiful cars.i just saw the one as I said back in 69 at that time I didn't know they exsisted.it was all white I was standing on a corner in Toronto took my breath away.

01-31-2014, 03:29 PM	#17
mikhett Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Jackson N.J Posts: 206	Re: 1961 Starliner glass question I do everything except glass on all my restorations.Glass is too epensive to muck up!