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Old 09-17-2021, 06:26 PM   #1
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what sort of hoky repairs have you found on your supposedly restored Model A.
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Old 09-17-2021, 06:29 PM   #2
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ill start.
this is the rt rear service brake rod.
it appears the rod wasn't long enogh so someone made an extension by welding two nuts together.

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Not really a repair but I saw this on a guy's rpu. Scary!
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I found body panels held on only with bondo no welding.
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Not really a repair but I saw this on a guy's rpu. Scary!
Almost puts it back to factory.
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Old 09-17-2021, 07:05 PM   #6
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I worked for a short time in a car restoration business. Some "fixes" were nothing short of terrifying. There was the guy who replaced the brake rods with 3/16" long thread which has a minor diameter of only 9/64" (3.6 mm) and they are made of rubbish metal.
Buicks from about 1924 are famous for rusting through the block at the bottom of the water jacket. I saw one that had done that and the owner had screwed a galvanised sheet metal patch over it and tried to seal it with something resembling muffler putty. Then there was this con rod. It had broken and had a splint rivetted on to repair with a coach bolt as a big end bolt. Amazing.
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Old 09-17-2021, 08:46 PM   #7
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When we removed the chicken wire/bondo to replace with welded patch panels, she looked like Swiss cheese.
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I worked for a short time in a car restoration business. Some "fixes" were nothing short of terrifying. Then there was this con rod. It had broken and had a splint rivetted on to repair with a coach bolt as a big end bolt. Amazing.
Give the guy a break - you gotta do what you gotta do.

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Many of the fixes were out of necessity. New parts or food? An easy choice.
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Give the guy a break - you gotta do what you gotta do.

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I'm not criticising the guy who repaired that con rod. The fact that it kept the motor running is remarkable and a real achievement.
No comment on the brake rods!
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the old days of keeping the car going, inventiveness, is different from a supposedly restored car and finding bad stuff.

i was thinking of modern day Hoky
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Many years ago, the newly rebuilt motor in my 45B Coupe made some horrible noises on its maiden club run. Some moron in the re-builder's shop tied the oil pump up into the block with clothesline. The clothesline disintegrated and clogged the oil screen on the oil pump, so the motor starved for oil.
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Many years ago, the newly rebuilt motor in my 45B Coupe made some horrible noises on its maiden club run. Some moron in the re-builder's shop tied the oil pump up into the block with clothesline. The clothesline disintegrated and clogged the oil screen on the oil pump, so the motor starved for oil.
Ever since, I take every rebuilt motor apart and inspect it for deficiencies. I have not yet found a perfect rebuilt motor!
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Rat nest wiring.

I bought a 1929 closed cab pickup years ago that was "restored" but the transmission required rebuilding before driving the car and the doors did not fit correctly. As you know this model used Model T parts in the body, including the doors. Plus, nothing had been greased or lubricated. The wood was not replaced and lots of it was rotten. I think the guy who put it together was not interested in actually driving the car.
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I bought a ‘29 ccpu in 1965 where the previous owner must have had stock in a baling wire company. The doors, tail light, and tail gate were all held on, held together, or held closed with wire. The brake light switch was missing, and the p.o. explained that when he was stopping he would turn on the lights so it would look like the brake light was coming on. But the sheet metal was good and it ran pretty well and I only paid $350 for it. My cousin and I (19 and immortal) cut around all summer in it, as is/was, even taking an 800-mile round trip from Portland, OR to Eureka, CA. Sold it in the same condition at the end of summer for $450, which I used for tuition.
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When I bought my coupe it had a nice tight body with little bondo, and not a squeak, even on a rough road. However, the PO was a welder that worked for the Highway Dept. and he used his skills to tack and stitch a number of body panels in places where a fastener should have gone. After assembly, he sprayed on a heavy undercoating of some kind of asphaltic composition over the undersides, effectively glueing it all together.

The result was one tight body although it took a lot of time with a grinder and propane torch to get the fenders off for repairs. I had to be careful with the propane torch and kept an extinguisher close by lest I set the whole car on fire.
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I had a rattling sound coming from the right rear of my coupe, I pulled the wheel and drum and found the nuts that fastened the backing plate to the housing loose. No washers, because the bolts weren’t long enough.
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i would get so frustrated with my dad, he put a car together, no two bolts were the same. by the time the job of repairing what ever it was you were repairing the whole tool box would be empty beside the car.
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I had a rattling sound coming from the right rear of my coupe, I pulled the wheel and drum and found the nuts that fastened the backing plate to the housing loose. No washers, because the bolts weren’t long enough.
Pre LocTite era fix.
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Pre LocTite era fix.
I’m not sure it was a pre Loctite fix, as the bolts weren’t long enough to go all the way through the nuts. So there was no way you put a lock washer in the assembly.
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