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Werner · 06-09-2020, 08:46 AM

Hallo und guten Tag!

The right front wheel touches a little bit the brake rod when maneuvering fully right. I read from Andrews that there should be a stop screw on the rear side of the axle beam. But I don't find anything like that on my car. I also did not understand the instruction correctly.

Does anyone know exactly what is meant.
Thanks in advance!

ryanheacox · 06-09-2020, 09:21 AM

Hi Werner,

The kingpin locking bolt has (or should have) a special nut on it, https://www.brattons.com/front-spind...n-and-nut.html which acts as a stop. Hope this helps.

Werner · 06-09-2020, 01:26 PM

Thanks Ryan, for your hint! found the part in the catalogue and a hole in my car.

Bill G · 06-09-2020, 01:40 PM

Werner,

If you have a hole there, then does your king pin move around a little bit? It should be held in very tight with that bolt.

ryanheacox · 06-09-2020, 02:23 PM

Are you really saying you don't have any locking bolts? That would mean the only thing holding the kingpin in place is the brake operating shaft housing, and barely holding it at that. Sounds very dangerous

Werner · 06-09-2020, 03:15 PM

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The stop pin is missing on the right side of the axle beam.

Ruth · 06-10-2020, 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryanheacox

Are you really saying you don't have any locking bolts? That would mean the only thing holding the kingpin in place is the brake operating shaft housing, and barely holding it at that. Sounds very dangerous

Quote:

Originally Posted by Werner

The stop pin is missing on the right side of the axle beam.

I don't think I would be driving that car until you get all the parts in place. Please stay safe.

bavArian · 06-10-2020, 05:42 AM

Seems like a common problem for the steering stops to be faulty. My car had the right side steering stop broken off at the axle. It held the kingpin but didn't stop the wheel from turning. After finally getting it out I knew why the previous owner didn't change that part, the force needed to push it out was considerable.

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Werner · 06-10-2020, 11:30 AM

Hallo miteinander!
All clear! The kingpin was/is securely fixed. I degreased and cleaned today. It's like me, as BavArian writes. The inner stop button has broken off.

The previous owners left it that way and welded the bolt on the front side with dots.

06-09-2020, 08:46 AM	#1
Werner Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Germany, near Aachen Posts: 1,153	Contact front tire with brake rod Hallo und guten Tag! The right front wheel touches a little bit the brake rod when maneuvering fully right. I read from Andrews that there should be a stop screw on the rear side of the axle beam. But I don't find anything like that on my car. I also did not understand the instruction correctly. Does anyone know exactly what is meant. Thanks in advance! __________________ Beste Gruesse aus Deutschland, Werner Ford Model A, Roadster, 1928 Citroen 11 CV, 1947 Hercules W 2000, 1976; (with NSU-Wankel Rotary Engine), Canadian version

06-09-2020, 09:21 AM	#2
ryanheacox Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Northwest CT Posts: 1,092	Re: Contact front tire with brake rod Hi Werner, The kingpin locking bolt has (or should have) a special nut on it, https://www.brattons.com/front-spind...n-and-nut.html which acts as a stop. Hope this helps.

06-09-2020, 01:26 PM	#3
Werner Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Germany, near Aachen Posts: 1,153	Re: Contact front tire with brake rod Thanks Ryan, for your hint! found the part in the catalogue and a hole in my car. __________________ Beste Gruesse aus Deutschland, Werner Ford Model A, Roadster, 1928 Citroen 11 CV, 1947 Hercules W 2000, 1976; (with NSU-Wankel Rotary Engine), Canadian version

06-09-2020, 01:40 PM	#4
Bill G Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Walla Walla, WA Posts: 1,045	Re: Contact front tire with brake rod Werner, If you have a hole there, then does your king pin move around a little bit? It should be held in very tight with that bolt.

06-09-2020, 02:23 PM	#5
ryanheacox Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Northwest CT Posts: 1,092	Re: Contact front tire with brake rod Are you really saying you don't have any locking bolts? That would mean the only thing holding the kingpin in place is the brake operating shaft housing, and barely holding it at that. Sounds very dangerous

06-09-2020, 03:15 PM	#6
Werner Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Germany, near Aachen Posts: 1,153	Re: Contact front tire with brake rod Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) The stop pin is missing on the right side of the axle beam. __________________ Beste Gruesse aus Deutschland, Werner Ford Model A, Roadster, 1928 Citroen 11 CV, 1947 Hercules W 2000, 1976; (with NSU-Wankel Rotary Engine), Canadian version

06-10-2020, 05:42 AM	#8
bavArian Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Germany Posts: 215	Re: Contact front tire with brake rod Seems like a common problem for the steering stops to be faulty. My car had the right side steering stop broken off at the axle. It held the kingpin but didn't stop the wheel from turning. After finally getting it out I knew why the previous owner didn't change that part, the force needed to push it out was considerable. @Werner: ♪You've got mail!♫ Last edited by bavArian; 06-10-2020 at 05:59 AM.

06-10-2020, 11:30 AM	#9
Werner Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Germany, near Aachen Posts: 1,153	Re: Contact front tire with brake rod Hallo miteinander! All clear! The kingpin was/is securely fixed. I degreased and cleaned today. It's like me, as BavArian writes. The inner stop button has broken off. The previous owners left it that way and welded the bolt on the front side with dots. __________________ Beste Gruesse aus Deutschland, Werner Ford Model A, Roadster, 1928 Citroen 11 CV, 1947 Hercules W 2000, 1976; (with NSU-Wankel Rotary Engine), Canadian version