What is this carburetor car from?

[Harylufa]

Dear Friends!
I have this carburetor installed in a Ford V8 350, but someone told me that this is not the original one.

Can you help to identify this carburetor?

Thanks

Hary

[V8COOPMAN]

'49-ish Mercury flathead, I believe! DD

[51 MERC-CT]

Also '49-'51 Lincoln or big Ford truck.
The one in the pic appears to have been converted to manual choke.

[Harylufa]

Hi all!

I really appreciate your help, this carb is installed in a Ford V8 350, called here Fase 2.
Do you know this engine?

Hary

[V8COOPMAN]

Sometimes also referred to as "towering infernos". DD

[51 MERC-CT]

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Originally Posted by V8COOPMAN

Sometimes also referred to as "towering infernos". DD

'52-'53 MERC'S were the towering infernos'

[rotorwrench]

"Tea Pot" Holley 885. Trucks have the manual choke set up but a lot of them have governors. Early 1949 Mercs & Lincolns and a lot of trucks used a ball tip on the throttle arm and the later ones had the drilled hole for use of the clip retained type throttle rod. On the top of the accelerator pump relief, (the part that is the highest point on the top of the shroud) there should be the little numbers that are the date code for the carb. It will have the number of the month stamped next to a smaller raised cast in number that represents the last two digits of the year of manufacture.

[scooder]

Originally Posted by Harylufa

Hi all!

I really appreciate your help, this carb is installed in a Ford V8 350, called here Fase 2.
Do you know this engine?

Hary

Put a pic of the engine on here, Ford 350 phase 2 means nothing to me. Ford 351, yes.
Martin.

[scooder]

The carb in the pic looks like the remains of a governor on the flange.
Martin.

[Ross F-1]

Originally Posted by scooder

The carb in the pic looks like the remains of a governor on the flange.
Martin.

If you mean the arm at far bottom right, I think that is a truck-style manual throttle arm.

[scooder]

Originally Posted by Ross F-1

If you mean the arm at far bottom right, I think that is a truck-style manual throttle arm.

Just had another look, think your right, does look like a hand throttle type of thing.
Thanks,
Martin.

[Harylufa]

Originally Posted by scooder

Put a pic of the engine on here, Ford 350 phase 2 means nothing to me. Ford 351, yes.
Martin.

Hi!
I hace some pic from engine. Here we called Ford fase2. I need a manual how to assemble the engine.

Thank

Hary

[Harylufa]

Originally Posted by rotorwrench

"Tea Pot" Holley 885. Trucks have the manual choke set up but a lot of them have governors. Early 1949 Mercs & Lincolns and a lot of trucks used a ball tip on the throttle arm and the later ones had the drilled hole for use of the clip retained type throttle rod. On the top of the accelerator pump relief, (the part that is the highest point on the top of the shroud) there should be the little numbers that are the date code for the carb. It will have the number of the month stamped next to a smaller raised cast in number that represents the last two digits of the year of manufacture.

Rotorwrench!

I really appreciate this info, it is very valuable for me. It is the first time I see this kind of carburetor. Nowadays I am studyng in a course of Automotive mechanic.

Thank you very much

Hary

[Mart]

I think the Argentinian fase 2 (phase 2) engines were a development based on the Y-Block. Not heard of a 350 though.

Mart.

[rotorwrench]

I think the Ford 350 is like an F350 1-ton truck. The fase II heads have a more conventional split for the intake manifold and the exhaust was also improved but I believe it is still a 292 cubic inch motor.

Ford of Argentina used this motor for a lot longer than the USA and they improved it a lot too.

[Harylufa]

Originally Posted by rotorwrench

I think the Ford 350 is like an F350 1-ton truck. The fase II heads have a more conventional split for the intake manifold and the exhaust was also improved but I believe it is still a 292 cubic inch motor.

Ford of Argentina used this motor for a lot longer than the USA and they improved it a lot too.

Hi!

This is my doubt, I thought that would be 292 cubic inch motor.

I need to find a manual from this engine.

Thanks

Hary

[Harylufa]

Originally Posted by Mart

I think the Argentinian fase 2 (phase 2) engines were a development based on the Y-Block. Not heard of a 350 though.

Mart.

Mart!
What is the original carburetor from this engine?

Thanks

[Tinker]

So you putting a yblock in your 46? interesting setup. Always something different on these old fords.

I think those merc carbs are around 100 cfm. I think the early yblocks used a 94 Holley before moving to the teapot (tower of inferno) carbs. I put a 390 2 barrel on a 292 and it's been great. Just enough.

What's your plan?

[Tinker]

Cool thread.

Some ques on the yblock which it looks like to me.
http://ford-y-block.com/Block%20identification.htm

Maybe the 350 nomenclature is based on the sbc Chevy craze. Or not.

[scooder]

100 cfm? Gota be a typo?
Martin.

[Tinker]

I was off about 50-75 cfms even for the 94-97 carb. So the Holley 885 would be even more.

http://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=29519
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/t...ateing.169625/

[scooder]

Got it, I'd imagine the 885 to be 200+ cfm, those barrels are big compared to a 97 or 94.
Martin.

[totto]

I had a '51 Merc in my '34 in the '70's and that was the carb.

[jim galli]

Sure looks like that carb was adapted to the manifold. You can see the wide 4 bolt pattern like the later Autolite 2300 had is there, but abandoned.

[rotorwrench]

The later fase II engines from 1971 to 1982 likely had a more conventional carburetor when it was new. I'm not familiar enough with the Ford of Argentina products to know for certain what they were equipped with.

Here is some info on the fase II engines in english for us USA folks that are not familiar with the South American versions.
http://www.curbsideclassic.com/cc-gl...-in-argentina/

The 885 installation was likely done for practical reasons. Some one needed a good carb and that is all they had at the time. Unless they wanted some special form of air filter system for the truck.

Since fase II engines were not manufactured in the USA, I don't know of any source for parts or maintenance information. We would only have the equivalent to the fase I engine in the USA Ford Y-block series of engines manufactured from 1952 through 1963. or so.

[Tinker]

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Pretty neat stuff. Learned something too. Would like to find one in the states! Ha ya fat chance.

Great find hary. Congrats

[big job]

Carb post #12 absolutely used on F7 & F8's 337 cid It has a governor..

[RalphG]

Originally Posted by 51 MERC-CT

'52-'53 MERC'S were the towering infernos'

As my 52 Merc has the Holley "teapot" type carburetor I am a little curious why some refer to them as the towering inferno? I'm hoping not because they are prone to fires.

[Harylufa]

Originally Posted by rotorwrench

The later fase II engines from 1971 to 1982 likely had a more conventional carburetor when it was new. I'm not familiar enough with the Ford of Argentina products to know for certain what they were equipped with.

Here is some info on the fase II engines in english for us USA folks that are not familiar with the South American versions.
http://www.curbsideclassic.com/cc-gl...-in-argentina/

The 885 installation was likely done for practical reasons. Some one needed a good carb and that is all they had at the time. Unless they wanted some special form of air filter system for the truck.

Since fase II engines were not manufactured in the USA, I don't know of any source for parts or maintenance information. We would only have the equivalent to the fase I engine in the USA Ford Y-block series of engines manufactured from 1952 through 1963. or so.

Thank for this info!

In my Country is very famous the Phase II or Fase 2, I am learning how to assemble and disassemble the engine and it is interesting.

Hary

[Harylufa]

Originally Posted by Tinker

Pretty neat stuff. Learned something too. Would like to find one in the states! Ha ya fat chance.

Great find hary. Congrats

Tinker!

I could know what carburetor was thank to all of you, It is the first time I see this carb.

Thanks for reading

Hary

[Harylufa]

Originally Posted by jim galli

Sure looks like that carb was adapted to the manifold. You can see the wide 4 bolt pattern like the later Autolite 2300 had is there, but abandoned.

Hi! I try to find out what is the original carburetor that belong to the Phase II.

Hary

[51 MERC-CT]

Originally Posted by RalphG

As my 52 Merc has the Holley "teapot" type carburetor I am a little curious why some refer to them as the towering inferno? I'm hoping not because they are prone to fires.

Probably a high percentage of the reputation is because of being passed on by those who never experienced or never knew anyone who experienced the phenomenon.
Considering where the float chamber is located in the air plenum, any leakage could cause excess fuel where it really should not be.