130-A Deluxe Delivery 1928 Prototype Info.

[Tudortomnz]

Here goes'...... from the 1931 [ Oct] NZ New Ford Trucks brochure.

[WTSHNN]

http://www.fordbarn.com/forum/attach...7&d=1295926160

[Rowdy]

Is there an approx date on this somewhere? Thanks Rod

[Fordors]

This information is for the 1932 B-410 Sedan Delivery but I think it still gives some insight into the profit potential for a Briggs/LeBaron converted Tudor. The suggested retail for a B-55 Tudor was $450 and the B-410 Sedan Delivery was priced at $520.
In the first letter, dated Aug.30, 1932 it states that the conversion at LB cost $90 for a Tudor shipped to LB at dealer expense and the second letter, Sept. 26th, quotes the $520 price, arrived at for a SD shipped direct from Detroit.
While not a direct comparison to the pricing of the Model A delivery I thought it interesting that one could have the conversion done for $90.

[Rowdy]

Thanks, that is interesting. Still the conversion is about 1/6 the cost of a factory built delivery. Which would equate to about 5K in todays money. Still seems cheap as compared to today. I do not think this would include labor. Rod

[Fordors]

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Originally Posted by Rowdy

Thanks, that is interesting. Still the conversion is about 1/6 the cost of a factory built delivery. Which would equate to about 5K in todays money. Still seems cheap as compared to today. I do not think this would include labor. Rod

On the contrary Rod, I think it did include labor. The following excerpt is from http://www.coachbuilt.com/bui/b/briggs/briggs.htm

"For example in 1929, both Briggs and Murray supplied Ford with identical Model 155 town sedan bodies. The Murray body cost Ford $237.98 while the Briggs body cost eight dollars less, $229.71. The amount of profit allowed by Ford was typically ten percent. So to an outside observer it appears that Briggs made a $23 profit on every Model 155 town sedan body sold to Ford. Unfortunately for Ford’s suppliers, they had to pay for their labor, overhead, capital expenses and stockholder dividends out of their 10% “profit”."

Briggs has been said to have been a ruthless employer and during the depths of the Depression I'm sure craftsmen worked cheaply; if one man didn't want the job there were plenty more waiting for the opportunity.

[Bick in New Zealand]

The photo of the 'Briggs' 130-A was one of Lorin Sorenson's. I should have posted it with the attached text. Sorenson is usually pretty reliable from my experience. I have no other evidence that Briggs produced these, however I have attached a 1935 brochure showing a Briggs conversion.
Great thread and why I enjoy Fordbarn so much.

[Brad in Germany]

Here is one for sale on German eBay where it was converted to a Tudor:



Model A Tudor Delivery



Brad in Maryland

[Deluxe Delivery Don]

I know this is a 130-A Thread , but Brad reminded me of a 130-B Deluxe Delivery that was at a Car Show that I attended with my Delivery. It's a 130-B Delivery that was used by a Funeral Home in the Tacoma Area back in the 1930's. The owner had all of the documents to prove that it is not an after market truck.He told me that about 200 were converted with windows. Everything is the same has a regular 130-B except no solid panel. If you look closely you can see the wood post in the middle of the window which is in all 130-B Deliveries. It was used to carry flowers from the funeral home to cemetery.

[Joop]

I was told that they installed a rear door in a Tudor in Europe to get a lower road tax as it was a listed as a business vehicle.

[Rowdy]

I had considered making a swing out bracket for a Kari Keen trunk. But after considering the length and weight of the trunk plus any contents it looked as though it would sag too much to get it to latch if ever used. Scrapped the idea as there is already plenty of storage room and sold the trunk and bracket. I do not think the way that one was done is very practical. Rod

[Brad in Germany]

Saw this Tudor Delivery for sale in Germany if any one might be interested. Looks like it was a former bakery delivery truck from France maybe....based on the dash plaque:




It is for sale at this link to Auto Kraul for 19,949 Euro (about $21,837 at today's exchange rate).

....or on German eBay

Fordially,
Brad in Maryland

[Dennis Haag]

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P1010026.jpgI have posted these before and still looking for information. My thinking is the city of Milwaukee Wi order from Ford Fleet Services. a local body co (carry over from Model T days) did the conversion for the city. The frame is early 28 and the motor number is Jan 1929. It did at one time have a drum taillight.

[hotroddaddy]

Does anyone know who makes the 1928-29 Ford Sedan delivery conversion for the 28-29 Ford Model A Tudor Sedan? Now that Gibbon Fiberglass Reproductions is no longer in business?

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[jamesivta]

Not sure if anyone will read this. This thread is very old, but I do have more confirmation of a 1928 Preproduction Deluxe Deliver. In George DeAngelis book "The Ford Model A" As Henry Built it. On page 113 is a photo of a 1928 preproduction Deluxe Delivery, the caption reads "First Deluxe Delivery preproduction model, November, 1928". I have what I believe is a preproduction 1928 Deluxe Delivery that I inherited from my Father who fully restored it from 2003-2005.

[Stretch Cab]

I read it. Very interesting and we keep learning..................

[jamesivta]

You are so spot on. My Father found his in Indiana about 70 miles from Chicago. I had been stored in a barn for about 50 years. It was assembled in the Ford Chicago plant. This was his 6th model A restoration so he was very knowledgable about Model A's. His delivery had a may 1928 engine, and was originally built on an AR Chasis. So unlike the production models the handbrake on his is on the left side of the driver. It also had the single drum tail light on left side in the rear. He also said it had a number of unusual parts that had been used in the original build, some appeared to be Model T parts. His research indicated that EG Budd had built a certain number of Delivery bodies in 1928 and he shipped them to some of the ford plants. The Delivery production lines were not ready to start production yet. So, some of the ford plants took existing parts including available AR Chasis' and basically put some preproduction cars together by hand. They were probably used by some dealerships as display models to start taking orders. Production models did not arrive until March of 1929, original cost I believe was $595.
Here is a youtube link to a video I made of my Delivery if anyone wants to take a look.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCLMv-DukD4

[jb-ob]

Jim,

In an effort to maintain your Father's story, I suggest replacing that 1980's Shay reproduction Model A wheel with a correct 1928-9 spare.

[jamesivta]

Thank you JB!!! Much appreciated. Any other thoughts on the vehicle?

[WTSHNN]

Have you looked for a date stamp on the gas tank yet? I think JB suggested that in the other thread.

-Tim