Motor Stay Rods (anti-chatter rods)

[Mark Slight]

Does anyone know the correct part number for the V-8 Ford Motor Stay Rods (anti-chatter rods), and the application years I can't find them in the "Green Bible".
My Motor Stay rods are 15 1/8" Long.

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Thanks Mark

[Henry/Kokomo]

Mark - Try 48-6044 Rod, engine radius for 60 and 90HP, 8 cyl, 1935-1941. There are similar rods shown for 1933 through 1941 for both 4 and 8 cylinder applications. Check page 208 and 216 in the "Green Bible". Hope this helps.

[Mark Slight]

Henry, Thanks I found the infomation (diagram) on page 208, I also found more information on page 226 part numbers and year of applications.

40 6044 Rod, pass & comm 8cyl 33-34
46 6044 Rod, pass & comm 4cyl 33-34
48 6044 Rod, pass & comm 60 & 90 8cyl 35-41

811W 6044 Rod COE 38-40, COE dump 38-39, 122" Truck 1940

Wonder if they were all same length?

Thanks, Mark

[Henry/Kokomo]

No idea if they were the same length. I suppose it would depend on the frame and that's borne out by the '35 - '41 taking the same P/N. I suspect the COE trucks were all the same as the wheelbase length difference was all behind the cab/transmission.

I also just learned I can't type. I meant to write 208 & 226 not 208 & 216. Sheesh.

[DavidG]

It's 46-6044 for the '33-'34 four-cylinder rod, not 48-6044 and no, they are not all the same length.

[Mark Slight]

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DavidG, I just changed the posting with the correct 46 6044, thanks for catching that.
I would not make a good accountant!
Anyone know where to find the length specifications? I'll add them for the Barn.
I could not find them in the V-8 Times.

Henry, I guess it's my eyes and fingers that need to get coorinated. :-)

Mark

[coolcoupe]

Does anyone know if there anti-chatter rods for 46-48 cars?

[columbiA]

Anti-chatter rods 11A 6044 is used on 41-42 pass cars & 46-48 RHD cars.The 46 48 LHD cars did not use them.-From Ford of Canada 28-49 fast moving parts catalog.

[JM 35 Sedan]

The '35 to '41 V8 engine steady rods that I have measure ~ 14" to 15" long. I also have a set of steady rods that are ~ 22" to 23" long. I am not exactly sure what these longer rods actually fit. Would be nice to find some accurate information listing all the part numbers, specific details on their configuration, and exactly where they are all used.

[m.ralph]

John, those longer rods probably fit cars where the rods were mounted forward on the front member.

[V8COOPMAN]

Originally Posted by JM 35 Sedan

The '35 to '41 V8 engine steady rods that I have measure ~ 14" to 15" long. I also have a set of steady rods that are ~ 22" to 23" long. I am not exactly sure what these longer rods actually fit. Would be nice to find some accurate information listing all the part numbers, specific details on their configuration, and exactly where they are all used.

Originally Posted by m.ralph

John, those longer rods probably fit cars where the rods were mounted forward on the front member.

These long rods! DD

[19Fordy]

Here's more info. from the book shown.

[deuce_roadster]

I believe the engine stay rods were no longer needed when the rear mount changed and that prevented the rear end from pushing the trans and engine forward.

[Binx]

Since we're on the subject, my '41 pickup is missing them and am I correct that they mounted in the "X" frame top dimpled holes just forward of the trans mount?

Lonnie

[19Fordy]

This may have been posted before but here is the aftermarket anti-chatter rod that was available for 1946-48 Fords. Also fits 1939-41. Not sure if FORD made these but this does have the little Ford wire tag on it.

[JSeery]

Originally Posted by Binx

Since we're on the subject, my '41 pickup is missing them and am I correct that they mounted in the "X" frame top dimpled holes just forward of the trans mount?

Lonnie

Yes

[Bubsyouruncle]

This is an ancient thread, but it doesn't get to my question.

I have a '32. The rods go between the K-member and the back of the block.

The rods have an as-manufactured length,of course.

Did the factory mess with the effective length or not? Depending on construction of the frame and the machining of the block, using them as manufactured might introduce a twist in the engine/transmission assembly.

Thoughts>?

[DavidG]

The '32 Service Bulletins specify using shims to prevent distortion.

[Drbrown]

My '47 sedan coupe has them. They are long straight rods bolted to the same front cross member where the front engine mounts are attached - as shown in VCOOPMAN's post above. The car came from CA and evidently a former owner had them installed.

Regarding deuce_roadster's comment, my '47 does have the stock tranny mount/support on the cross member there. That tranny mount indeed prevents forward/backward shifting of the tranny and engine. However, the tranny mount (loosely) strattles the cross member which MIGHT allow some minor rotational movement of the tranny/engine.

[Bubsyouruncle]

DavidG, as usual, comes up with an answer that is on point. However, DavidG, what amounts to distortion? And how do you measure that?