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Old 02-23-2019, 07:12 PM   #1
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Default rear axle bearing sleeve

I'm in the process of rebuilding a 39 rear axle that has previously been rebuilt by another individual. Never been run, however, my customer has had a another rear end built by the same guy and it failed after minimal mileage, hence, he doesn't trust his workmanship, and has me redoing it all....I digress..
The axle housings have been resleeved, however, the assembled drums will not slip on all the way. I measure the installed sleeves at 2.163-2.165. I'd have thought 2.162 would be a more appropriate size, however, can any member give me the original Ford specs for the bearing races? Hoping I can spin these in the lathe and use toolpost grinder to 'tickle' them up. Hopefully I can swing them with those rearward protruding spring hangers.
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Old 02-23-2019, 07:17 PM   #2
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sorry, i cant give you a bearing spec, but i do remember mart heated the spring hanger and bent it out of the way to chuck it up in his lathe
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Old 02-23-2019, 07:23 PM   #3
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Yeah cas, I too remember Mart's trick... Thanks.
After I posted this question, I did a search of other threads. Found the dia should be between 2.063- 2.061. So thanks everyone, please ignore. Cheers.
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Old 02-24-2019, 12:58 AM   #4
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Brian I too found a drama with those sleaves,some as soft as,also be carful ,the id of the axle tube is WAY larger than a 33/34 or Model A, and if you use the sleave the vendors sell you will only have 3 or 4mm wall thickness on the 39,I have a set of 39 axle tubes at the machine shop,(my lathe wont spin them with the large spring hanger),And we are pressing a sleave in to the id to bring that diameter up to a 33 size, then you will have a better margine.
You can also use an old sleave that has a way smaller wall thickness.
let me know if you want some pics .
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Old 02-24-2019, 02:04 AM   #5
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The sleeves sold during the years has come in all flavours...the worse was the ones coming from Argentina..still have some that aren´t even ground completely on the outer race.
I gave up on the quality and make my own now from SKF bearing steel.
A lot of people think the pressfit should be as much as you can make it...and that affects the outer diameter !!
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Old 02-24-2019, 07:23 AM   #6
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Is it hit or miss on who you order them from or is there a good quality sleave from one particular source?
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Old 02-24-2019, 10:15 AM   #7
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A sleeve can be pinned to prevent rotation so that the interference fit doesn't have to be too high. They do that inside the helicopter transmissions all the time since they use magnesium castings with steel inserts. If the sleeve is replaced, just drill the pin and removed the old sleeve. Install new sleeve and drill a new pin hole. They have been doing this in aviation for years.


A person can fabricate a tool to lap the new sleeves if they are just a bit too large. It doesn't take much lapping to remove .001" from a surface. I've lapped crank pins on the Harley Davidson engines on a few occasions.

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Old 02-25-2019, 10:14 AM   #8
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Anyone recommend where to get the best quality repair sleave from?
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Old 02-25-2019, 11:22 AM   #9
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I find John Connelley's to be good ones
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Would you have his contact info?
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Old 02-25-2019, 02:06 PM   #11
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google columbia two speed, thats john
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Old 02-25-2019, 07:19 PM   #12
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Not sure, but I think C&G and john both have the same sleeves.




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for whatever it's worth, I have some C&G sleeves that I will offer at a reduced rate. I no longer need them. Packaging says USA Made, R-58C, Double Heat Treated.

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Old 02-25-2019, 07:33 PM   #13
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i believe you are correct bob, they are buddys
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Old 02-25-2019, 07:43 PM   #14
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john stucksberry in tn name is not spelled right
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Old 02-26-2019, 04:20 PM   #15
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I find John Connelley's to be good ones
I had my reproduction sleeves for my 32 rear axle
tested by a firm in Auckland before they were fitted by Specialist Engineering, N.P found one had to be rehardened.
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