The Ford Barn

freak · 04-06-2022, 11:07 PM

If you are ever in Detroit make sure to head out on Joy Rd. and visit the cemetery. The church is beautiful but pretty much abandoned. The cemetery is well kept but the area no so great. Probably most people who drive by don't realize Henry is buried there.

McMimmcs · 04-07-2022, 09:03 AM

Either Ford Motor Company or the City of Detroit should show more respect than they do! He built Detroit! Maintenance of the cemetery and grave site should be a priority!

Ray in La Mesa · 04-07-2022, 09:15 AM

May he & his "Believer" Rest In Peace. So sad the neighborhood is so run down.

freak · 04-07-2022, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by McMimmcs

Either Ford Motor Company or the City of Detroit should show more respect than they do! He built Detroit! Maintenance of the cemetery and grave site should be a priority!

The cemetery and grave are well kept. It's just the rest of the city. 😁

gdmn852 · 04-07-2022, 10:22 AM

The old Ford Life magazine had a good article on Henry Ford grave site,when the article was written in early 70,s the mentioned the gas station across the road from the cemetery, it is the Ford Family cemetery dating back to the 1800,s .

Gene F · 04-07-2022, 04:32 PM

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Ford built a big hospital complex in Detroit, largely on his own nickel.

jack backer · 04-08-2022, 05:04 AM

Mr. Ford's shrine is gone, it wasn't his gravesite, nor the car he manufactured. Fords true achievement was the Rouge, the worlds largest industrial complex in its day. This was his pride, and he came close to achieving true vertical integration (the complete control of the entire manufacturing process ,from raw materials to finished product)producing a unit of manufacture with over 5000 individual parts.
It was his shop, and he ran it as such, occaisionally shutting down entire processes if the area wasnt clean to his satisfaction, regardless of production demands.
It was Fords power base, giving him power to employ up to 100,000 men,power to influence government,power to help defeat fascism.

His legacy doesnt really exist anymore,the Rouge and its methods were overshadowed by time and progress, a product still bears his name,but its a far cry from the days where he actually had the say in building it.

gdmn852 · 04-08-2022, 11:18 AM

Hello, the Rouge plant was said to have raw materials come in one end and a finished car out the other.Seems to make sense if you have control of all the processes,you could make the raw materials cheaper yourself. Ford also owned a railroad, rubber plantations , mines , lumber mills and the list went on .Today key word seems to be “outsourcing “.

jack backer · 04-08-2022, 03:08 PM

Ford did control alot of his raw materials and processes but never achieved full vertical integration, They used a number of subcontractors, from bodies to horns to carburetors..

freak · 04-08-2022, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jack backer

Ford did control alot of his raw materials and processes but never achieved full vertical integration, They used a number of subcontractors, from bodies to horns to carburetors..

The rubber plantation never worked out either.

nkaminar · 04-08-2022, 05:16 PM

I keep imagining Henry looking over my shoulder as I work on my car. He probably would complain that all the add-on's are not necessary and a waste of money. I think he would be surprised to find lots of Model A's, and T's still running.

Gene F · 04-08-2022, 06:00 PM

To me the A is what is seen today that makes people think of him. The Ts are just not useful any more. The A-Model is drivable, and that is what makes people think of the level of acomplishment. JMHO

freak · 04-08-2022, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by nkaminar

I keep imagining Henry looking over my shoulder as I work on my car. He probably would complain that all the add-on's are not necessary and a waste of money. I think he would be surprised to find lots of Model A's, and T's still running.

The T's wouldn't surprise him... just the A's.

jack backer · 04-08-2022, 08:43 PM

Ford turned their units of production into cash by selling them to the dealers. Mr. Ford himself preferred luxury cars.

freak · 04-08-2022, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jack backer

Ford turned their units of production into cash by selling them to the dealers. Mr. Ford himself preferred luxury cars.

I wouldn't say he preferred them. Ford didn't make a limo so he didn't have a choice. Much like his last ride. Ford didn't make a hearse either.

mercman from oz · 04-08-2022, 08:50 PM

Henry Fords Grave Site, 15899 Joy Road, Detroit.

mercman from oz · 04-08-2022, 09:01 PM

St Martha's Episcopal Church, Joy Road, Detroit.

freak · 04-08-2022, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mercman from oz

St Martha's Episcopal Church, Joy Road, Detroit.

Mrs. Ford had this built but never lived to see it completed.

freak · 04-08-2022, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by freak

I wouldn't say he preferred them. Ford didn't make a limo so he didn't have a choice. Much like his last ride. Ford didn't make a hearse either.

I take that back... seems like they made a hearse. Why they didn't use one I'm not sure but I've seen stories that say there wasn't one around when it was needed.

mercman from oz · 04-08-2022, 09:43 PM

Clara Bryant Ford Tombstone - Sept 29, 1950

jack backer · 04-09-2022, 06:42 AM

Ford owned Lincoln since the 1920’s..my point is though we all admire the car, Ford Motor built them for a profit,the cash demands on Ford was huge…payroll weekly at the Rouge was paid in cash at the time of the A 80000 men worked there alone, not to mention the assembly branches..and then you have operating costs and supplies..

Ford was smart with money..banks would lend dealers cash to buy inventory, Ford would then lend the cash from the dealers back to the banks, to keep the wheel turning..all the while earning interest, money on the money that will come to them.

04-06-2022, 11:07 PM	#1
freak Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Pemberville, Ohio Posts: 456	Mr. Ford died today 4-7-1947 If you are ever in Detroit make sure to head out on Joy Rd. and visit the cemetery. The church is beautiful but pretty much abandoned. The cemetery is well kept but the area no so great. Probably most people who drive by don't realize Henry is buried there.

04-07-2022, 09:03 AM	#2
McMimmcs Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Fort Gratiot, Michigan Posts: 2,296	Re: Mr. Ford died today 4-7-1947 Either Ford Motor Company or the City of Detroit should show more respect than they do! He built Detroit! Maintenance of the cemetery and grave site should be a priority!

04-07-2022, 09:15 AM	#3
Ray in La Mesa Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: La Mesa Ca Posts: 1,166	Re: Mr. Ford died today 4-7-1947 May he & his "Believer" Rest In Peace. So sad the neighborhood is so run down.

04-07-2022, 10:22 AM	#5
gdmn852 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Erie Pa Posts: 689	Re: Mr. Ford died today 4-7-1947 The old Ford Life magazine had a good article on Henry Ford grave site,when the article was written in early 70,s the mentioned the gas station across the road from the cemetery, it is the Ford Family cemetery dating back to the 1800,s .

04-07-2022, 04:32 PM	#6
Gene F Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,973	Re: Mr. Ford died today 4-7-1947 Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Ford built a big hospital complex in Detroit, largely on his own nickel.

04-08-2022, 05:04 AM	#7
jack backer BANNED Join Date: Mar 2022 Location: Chenango Bridge NY Posts: 433	Re: Mr. Ford died today 4-7-1947 Mr. Ford's shrine is gone, it wasn't his gravesite, nor the car he manufactured. Fords true achievement was the Rouge, the worlds largest industrial complex in its day. This was his pride, and he came close to achieving true vertical integration (the complete control of the entire manufacturing process ,from raw materials to finished product)producing a unit of manufacture with over 5000 individual parts. It was his shop, and he ran it as such, occaisionally shutting down entire processes if the area wasnt clean to his satisfaction, regardless of production demands. It was Fords power base, giving him power to employ up to 100,000 men,power to influence government,power to help defeat fascism. His legacy doesnt really exist anymore,the Rouge and its methods were overshadowed by time and progress, a product still bears his name,but its a far cry from the days where he actually had the say in building it.

04-08-2022, 11:18 AM	#8
gdmn852 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Erie Pa Posts: 689	Re: Mr. Ford died today 4-7-1947 Hello, the Rouge plant was said to have raw materials come in one end and a finished car out the other.Seems to make sense if you have control of all the processes,you could make the raw materials cheaper yourself. Ford also owned a railroad, rubber plantations , mines , lumber mills and the list went on .Today key word seems to be “outsourcing “.

04-08-2022, 03:08 PM	#9
jack backer BANNED Join Date: Mar 2022 Location: Chenango Bridge NY Posts: 433	Re: Mr. Ford died today 4-7-1947 Ford did control alot of his raw materials and processes but never achieved full vertical integration, They used a number of subcontractors, from bodies to horns to carburetors..

04-08-2022, 05:16 PM	#11
nkaminar Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Western North Carolina Posts: 3,897	Re: Mr. Ford died today 4-7-1947 I keep imagining Henry looking over my shoulder as I work on my car. He probably would complain that all the add-on's are not necessary and a waste of money. I think he would be surprised to find lots of Model A's, and T's still running. __________________ A is for apple, green as the sky. Step on the gas, for tomorrow I die. Forget the brakes, they really don't work. The clutch always sticks, and starts with a jerk. My car grows red hair, and flies through the air. Driving's a blast, a blast from the past.

04-08-2022, 06:00 PM	#12
Gene F Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,973	Re: Mr. Ford died today 4-7-1947 To me the A is what is seen today that makes people think of him. The Ts are just not useful any more. The A-Model is drivable, and that is what makes people think of the level of acomplishment. JMHO

04-08-2022, 08:43 PM	#14
jack backer BANNED Join Date: Mar 2022 Location: Chenango Bridge NY Posts: 433	Re: Mr. Ford died today 4-7-1947 Ford turned their units of production into cash by selling them to the dealers. Mr. Ford himself preferred luxury cars.

04-08-2022, 08:50 PM	#16
mercman from oz Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 10,376	Re: Mr. Ford died today 4-7-1947 Henry Fords Grave Site, 15899 Joy Road, Detroit.

04-08-2022, 09:01 PM	#17
mercman from oz Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 10,376	Re: Mr. Ford died today 4-7-1947 St Martha's Episcopal Church, Joy Road, Detroit.

04-08-2022, 09:43 PM	#20
mercman from oz Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 10,376	Re: Mr. Ford died today 4-7-1947 Clara Bryant Ford Tombstone - Sept 29, 1950

04-09-2022, 06:42 AM	#21
jack backer BANNED Join Date: Mar 2022 Location: Chenango Bridge NY Posts: 433	Re: Mr. Ford died today 4-7-1947 Ford owned Lincoln since the 1920’s..my point is though we all admire the car, Ford Motor built them for a profit,the cash demands on Ford was huge…payroll weekly at the Rouge was paid in cash at the time of the A 80000 men worked there alone, not to mention the assembly branches..and then you have operating costs and supplies.. Ford was smart with money..banks would lend dealers cash to buy inventory, Ford would then lend the cash from the dealers back to the banks, to keep the wheel turning..all the while earning interest, money on the money that will come to them.