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Old 04-14-2021, 05:39 PM   #21
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Default Re: 1933/34 dual gauge temp sender unit (hose part).

Graham,


Yes; I'll take more photos tonight.
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Old 04-14-2021, 06:02 PM   #22
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Default Re: 1933/34 dual gauge temp sender unit (hose part).

So is this the fitting that is used? I have a few of the gauges but wondered what fitting is correct to use. I can machine one out of brass but the ones I can find right now are all steel..
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Old 04-14-2021, 06:09 PM   #23
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Default Re: 1933/34 dual gauge temp sender unit (hose part).

Those are heater hose fittings; an original fitting for the temperature probe is shown in the photo in #14 above. Note the thread area where the gauge is attached.
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Old 04-14-2021, 06:16 PM   #24
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Default Re: 1933/34 dual gauge temp sender unit (hose part).

Thank you DavidG and didn’t see the threads on the brass fitting. I will dig in the drawer to see. It can be made but in 2 pieces and either silver soldered or threaded . So are the originals one piece? It’s hard to tell in the picture .
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Old 04-14-2021, 07:34 PM   #25
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Default Re: 1933/34 dual gauge temp sender unit (hose part).

The large lower section that inserts into the radiator hose is a one-piece machined brass casting.
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Old 04-14-2021, 09:49 PM   #26
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Here's a better photo.
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Old 04-14-2021, 11:33 PM   #27
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Default Re: 1933/34 dual gauge temp sender unit (hose part).


David, Here is a larger pictures of these connections. Perfect for detail. Thanks for sharing.
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Old 04-15-2021, 07:10 AM   #28
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Cool thank you for the info and picture
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Old 05-14-2021, 07:48 PM   #29
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Default Re: 1933/34 dual gauge temp sender unit (hose part).

David,
One more question, the location in the radiator hose of the sender unit when using thermostats is it directly above the left thermostat or up in the upper portion of the hose?
I have conflicting pictures of restored vehicles showing it both locations.
Just want to be sure before cutting into the hose.
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Old 05-14-2021, 11:45 PM   #30
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Default Re: 1933/34 dual gauge temp sender unit (hose part).

Graham, The original instruction sheet that came with the gauge states the following ------Remove left radiator hose and with a sharp knife cut a 5/8"hole in hose 3 1/2" from motor end of hose. Wet knife blade for ease in cutting. Note if car is equipped with a thermostat be sure that this hole is between the thermostat and the motor. Also make sure you make a loop in the sender line between the sender unit and where it is clipped above on the left side radiator support rod. This is to compensate for any engine movement or vibration. Regards, Kevin.
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Old 05-14-2021, 11:55 PM   #31
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Graham, you need to know the temperature of the engine coolant below the thermostat especially if the thermostat is still closed. Regards, Kevin.
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Old 05-15-2021, 08:26 AM   #32
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As Kevin cites from the original instructions.
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Old 05-15-2021, 11:14 AM   #33
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Default Re: 1933/34 dual gauge temp sender unit (hose part).

Here are the original instructions.Couldn't figure out how to enlarge it.
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Old 05-16-2021, 08:00 PM   #34
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What fasteners were used originally to hold the temp wire to the radiator rod? Don’t want to use a black zip tie...
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Old 05-16-2021, 08:16 PM   #35
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Spring steel clips (2 off) blued finish. Third Generation Auto has these reproduced. Regards, Kevin.
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Old 05-20-2021, 04:40 PM   #36
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Default Re: 1933/34 dual gauge temp sender unit (hose part).

I plan on installing my unit into my coupe in a month or two. What is the proper path for the wire, does it go through the firewall where the wiring harness is, and do I need to undo all the wires first?
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Default Re: 1933/34 dual gauge temp sender unit (hose part).

Digger, the temp tube does not go through the firewall with the wiring harness. Original instructions state to drill a one inch dia hole in the dash (firewall) two inches below the left hand radiator tie rod where it attaches to the firewall. I know its a bit of a shock having to drill that hole in an original or restored car. I removed the wiring harness grommet (slide it forward) and managed to push my tube past the harness and then refit the grommet. Take your pick. Regards, Kevin.
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Old 05-20-2021, 10:47 PM   #38
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Default Re: 1933/34 dual gauge temp sender unit (hose part).

Kevin,
I managed to get mine thru the wiring harness hole no problem.
Just wondered if the instruction sheet above was for 1932 vehicles and not 1933/34 as it appears to show a 4cyl motor.
All diagrams seem to show 3 clips not 2.
3rd generation supply in sets of 3.
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Old 05-21-2021, 12:57 AM   #39
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Graham, my instruction sheet came with a NOS 33-34 genuine FORD gauge in its original colored ford box. Came with a little pull string bag with the hose fittings and 3 spring clips for the temp capillary tube. Yes 3 is correct. The instructions are for the V8 engine or a four cyl Model 40 as shown in the drawing. The gauge is manufactured by the King- Seeley corp as printed on the instruction sheet. I have owned that gauge for about 50 years and bought it new at a Ford parts dealer in Melbourne in the 1960s. I would not ever fit it to a car. I have other used gauges to use. Regards, Kevin..
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Old 05-21-2021, 01:02 AM   #40
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By the way you should use the original special brass gauge mounting nuts that came with the original gauge. THIRD GENERATION AUTO also has reproductions of those. Regards, Kevin.
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