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11-09-2021, 12:28 AM | #21 | |
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Re: Y-block B intake manifold question
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Read that thread the other day on that forum. Didnt realize they were that affordable. If this one doesnt clean up & check out well Ill definitely consider CRT. Thanks for the info.
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... un-believable...
Everyone is crying about the quality of replacement parts and then buy a CHI-COM knock-off GM HEI dist and carb. Do me a favor. The distributor you have is very desirable. If you decide to go YELLOW RIVER on your build advertise it so someone can use it. The intake manifold carb pad just needs a kiss. The machinist will realize this hopefully. All you want is a flat surface so there are no vacuum leaks. Last edited by KULTULZ; 11-09-2021 at 03:35 AM. |
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11-09-2021, 05:34 AM | #23 |
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That was an excellent distributor design, though with long use the hardened steel pins on those "comma" shaped weights often show heavy flat wear spots where they fit into the reluctor slots, and also elongated reluctor slots. This causes erratic ignition advance. This is on top of excessive bushing and/or shaft wear, be sure to check for this. If running points it is especially important that wear tolerances are within spec.
Some of the parts are getting hard to find, I rebuilt one and it was like pulling teeth to find some of the parts. Dennis Carpenter had a pretty good stock of the weights but they weren't listed on their website (I think they have a fair amount of NOS parts, but you have to ask). The reluctor is practically a Unicorn part, it is possible to braze up the slots and file them back square. |
11-09-2021, 08:34 AM | #24 |
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Y-block B intake manifold question
Surprisingly enough, this one is showing that exact wear you described. Should I shop around for another or would you attempt to rebuild this one?
https://youtu.be/InJN9nGog1Q Excuse my ignorance. First time Ive dug this deep into a strib. Thanks Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Yellow River Ha! Thanks for the reminder. Ill do my best to resist the communist temptation. Prefer to keep everything period correct. Ill have the shop clean that pad up on the manifold.
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11-09-2021, 09:13 AM | #26 |
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The distributor is absolutely critical to a smooth idle, good power, and all around fine running machine. Another consideration is when running points, it is important that the distributor cam lobes are clean and perfectly smooth or even polished. Also check for distributor shaft sideplay. If you can detect any slop with your fingers it's probably too much. Unfortunately what I found, when the distributor bushing is excessively worn, so is the steel distributor shaft, so bushing replacement alone isn't enough to bring it into acceptable limits. Excessive mechanical wear, sideplay, worn or pitted cam lobes, distributor gear backlash, all of these defects "stack up" and generally plays hell with the timing curve, contact points, "cam wobble", you'll pull your hair out trying to get the same dwell reading twice in a row. |
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What you have is a 57/59 DIST and the service parts are getting hard to come by. But this was the better of designs as it allowed a more stable dwell. There were four generations of the FYB DUALING ADVANCE DIST. If I was doing what you are doing, I would try and fine one from a 63/64 292 truck engine. Much easier to restore (parts) and make modifications (IMO).
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- When Must Have The Best - - CLICK URL BELOW - Study - https://4secondsflat.com/Ford%20Y-Bl...stributors.htm
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PARTS BREAKDOWN of SINGLE PLATE DIST -
Ah... We have the IMG DISAPPEARING SYNDROME raising it's head once again ...
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11-09-2021, 11:51 AM | #32 |
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Here is an older webpage (last updated way back yonder in 2004) which discussed these particular distributors and alerted me to the specific wear problems. I found he knew exactly what he was talking about! He explains setting up the advance curve, too.
http://m571.com/yblock/distributortuning.htm It gets complicated quickly rebuilding FYB distributors because of the different parts they used depending on the iteration. If a replacement distributor shaft is necessary, they are unobtanium except the particular type as discussed here, with the "comma" shaped centrifugal weights. N.b. these are not drilled for the drive gear, and it needs to be precisely located. The ball bearing style plates are still available, or, you could use the later type, which were also problematic. Ford also (naturally) changed the housings somewhere in there, which governs what type Vacuum Canister (which they also changed) will fit, depending on the housing or breaker plate. The earlier style vacuum advance used a fiber spacer, a spring, and shims (washers) for the advance curve, and connected it all with steel hardline with a special type of compression fitting. |
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I'd like to try and fix this one, but can feel some side-to-side play in the shaft. Can you provide any details on the '63'64 strib? Like what to look for or any identifying features? Thanks
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11-09-2021, 12:01 PM | #34 | |
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I fully support buying American-made products, but where do you think the replacement parts for a Ford distributor come from? The OP will have a difficult time just finding a condenser that works.
I also doubt that anyone posting does not have items in his home that were made in China. Sometimes you have to face reality. We can't return to the 50s. |
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Damn I hate to reply to this post ... No you don't. Your first response was CHI-COM which is a GM HEI spin-off (copy in fact) with electronic components which fail regularly. Try and warranty one. Nice thing about them is they readily accept AC-DELCO replacement parts. But that is how CHI-COM works, steal another's technology. Most anything one will need for the distributor being discussed will be NOS. The points are readily available from FORD. Points and cond are old tech. PERTRONIX is the way out (IMO) I will face reality when they come in and make English a 2nd language (which is not that far away) (well, actually it is now). The reason(s) most product is made off-shore is an unfriendly business atmosphere here. If this country ever has to go to full war again, it will collapse over-nite.
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The 63/64 is 292 truck only -
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11-09-2021, 01:53 PM | #38 | |
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Appreciate the pics & knowledge shared. Will do some more digging on this unit before any other decisions are made. Lucky to be in no rush as the stock setup is still working fine. Want all the parts ready to go before any disassembly starts.
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I'm pretty sure that 59-up distributors do not use the ball-bearing plate, and the vacuum-advance arm is straight, not curved as found on earlier distributors.
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Good to know
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