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SETHDOUG · 10-23-2014, 12:40 PM

HI GUYS ,,, I HAVE AN ORIGINAL UNRESTORED 31 TUDOR SEDAN ,,,
BARN FOUND AFTER 26 YEARS ... AFTER MUCH WORK ITS REGESTERED AND DRIVES GREAT ... WELL ALMOST GREAT ,,,,,COMMING TO A STOP PRESS THE BRAKS I GET A HORRIFFIC SHAKE IN THE CAR ,,,IS THIS BRAKES >>>>OR IN THE STEERING,,, SCARES ME TO DEATH ,,,,Where do i start ,???,,thanks Seth Carley ,,trumbull ct [email protected]

700rpm · 10-23-2014, 12:46 PM

Something's loose or worn out in your steering geometry. The are lots of causes. If you do a search here for "shimmy" you'll find the potential causes and fixes.

Patrick L. · 10-23-2014, 02:10 PM

Seems like you're really concerned about this since you're yelling for help.

It seems to me like you have more of a problem than just a warped brake drum or two.

I agree with looking over the suspension and steering really good. Appears as though there is a thing or two or three that is loose. Start with the wheel bearings and work your way back to the steering box.

Gary Gregory · 10-23-2014, 02:49 PM

King pins and bushings

Tom Wesenberg · 10-23-2014, 04:11 PM

Have you pulled the front drums to look for rust spots inside the drums? This can cause a pulse or shake when braking. My newer car will rust on the disks after a few days and pulse for a block or two until applying the brakes lightly will wear the rust off.

afuncar · 10-23-2014, 04:25 PM

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My shudder an shake was caused by a loose nut on the front spring perch.

Larry Seemann · 10-23-2014, 05:36 PM

Like afuncar said I had that happen once - loose not on the spring perch. Acted just like you describe.

1931 flamingo · 10-23-2014, 06:07 PM

Ck the brake backing plates for tightness to the spindles.
Paul in CT

BILL WILLIAMSON · 10-23-2014, 06:56 PM

Flat spots on the tires from sleeping 26 years??
Bill W.

Duffy1 · 10-23-2014, 07:29 PM

I have seen loose radius rods cause this. Replace radius ball or put in washer over existing ball . Vendors have the washer.

afuncar · 10-23-2014, 08:03 PM

My shutter was the nut under axle for spring perch .

Ed Saniewski · 10-24-2014, 05:30 AM

I am with Duffy, check the radius rod ball first. make sure the springs are in the right place and the nuts are tight. This is an easy thing to check, and if loose will give you a lot of shaking. Ed Saniewski

Tom Wesenberg · 10-24-2014, 06:16 AM

When I bought my 29 Tudor it also had a bad shake while braking. The right rear wheel had a flat spot probably from loosing a wheel while driving. I replaced the drum and backing plate, and it brakes smoothly now. I've seen quite a few drums with flat spots. Hard to believe that many people lost wheels while driving.

10-23-2014, 12:40 PM	#1
SETHDOUG Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 29	Brke n shake ???????? HI GUYS ,,, I HAVE AN ORIGINAL UNRESTORED 31 TUDOR SEDAN ,,, BARN FOUND AFTER 26 YEARS ... AFTER MUCH WORK ITS REGESTERED AND DRIVES GREAT ... WELL ALMOST GREAT ,,,,,COMMING TO A STOP PRESS THE BRAKS I GET A HORRIFFIC SHAKE IN THE CAR ,,,IS THIS BRAKES >>>>OR IN THE STEERING,,, SCARES ME TO DEATH ,,,,Where do i start ,???,,thanks Seth Carley ,,trumbull ct [email protected]

10-23-2014, 12:46 PM	#2
700rpm Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 5,902	Re: Brke n shake ???????? Something's loose or worn out in your steering geometry. The are lots of causes. If you do a search here for "shimmy" you'll find the potential causes and fixes. __________________ Ray Horton, Portland, OR As you go through life, keep your eye on the donut, not the hole.

10-23-2014, 02:10 PM	#3
Patrick L. Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Largo Florida Posts: 7,225	Re: Brke n shake ???????? Seems like you're really concerned about this since you're yelling for help. It seems to me like you have more of a problem than just a warped brake drum or two. I agree with looking over the suspension and steering really good. Appears as though there is a thing or two or three that is loose. Start with the wheel bearings and work your way back to the steering box.

10-23-2014, 02:49 PM	#4
Gary Gregory Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Maryville,Tn Posts: 302	Re: Brke n shake ???????? King pins and bushings

10-23-2014, 04:11 PM	#5
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: Brke n shake ???????? Have you pulled the front drums to look for rust spots inside the drums? This can cause a pulse or shake when braking. My newer car will rust on the disks after a few days and pulse for a block or two until applying the brakes lightly will wear the rust off.

10-23-2014, 04:25 PM	#6
afuncar Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: coquitlam b.c. canada Posts: 130	Re: Brke n shake ???????? Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) My shudder an shake was caused by a loose nut on the front spring perch.

10-23-2014, 05:36 PM	#7
Larry Seemann Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Spokane, WA. Posts: 496	Re: Brke n shake ???????? Like afuncar said I had that happen once - loose not on the spring perch. Acted just like you describe. __________________ Larry Seemann

10-23-2014, 06:07 PM	#8
1931 flamingo Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: new britain,ct 06052 Posts: 9,389	Re: Brke n shake ???????? Ck the brake backing plates for tightness to the spindles. Paul in CT

10-23-2014, 06:56 PM	#9
BILL WILLIAMSON Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: FRESNO, CA Posts: 12,560	Re: Brke n shake ???????? Flat spots on the tires from sleeping 26 years?? Bill W. __________________ "THE ASSISTANT GURU OF STUFF"

10-23-2014, 07:29 PM	#10
Duffy1 Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Mo. City , Texas Posts: 725	Re: Brke n shake ???????? I have seen loose radius rods cause this. Replace radius ball or put in washer over existing ball . Vendors have the washer.

10-23-2014, 08:03 PM	#11
afuncar Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: coquitlam b.c. canada Posts: 130	Re: Brke n shake ???????? My shutter was the nut under axle for spring perch .

10-24-2014, 05:30 AM	#12
Ed Saniewski Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Denville NJ Posts: 964	Re: Brke n shake ???????? I am with Duffy, check the radius rod ball first. make sure the springs are in the right place and the nuts are tight. This is an easy thing to check, and if loose will give you a lot of shaking. Ed Saniewski __________________ Model A Ford Club of New Jersey http://www.mafcnj.org Model A Pick Up Owners and Enthusiasts http://www.fordbarn.com/forum/group.php?groupid=5

10-24-2014, 06:16 AM	#13
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: Brke n shake ???????? When I bought my 29 Tudor it also had a bad shake while braking. The right rear wheel had a flat spot probably from loosing a wheel while driving. I replaced the drum and backing plate, and it brakes smoothly now. I've seen quite a few drums with flat spots. Hard to believe that many people lost wheels while driving.