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Old 04-19-2014, 10:34 PM   #1
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Default Check out this 400A on Craigslist!

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Seems high to me but I've not seen a 400A sell before. Nice looking car in the pics anyway. Thought some might be interested in seeing it as not too many 400A out there.

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Old 04-19-2014, 11:28 PM   #2
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Hi:

Sweet Model A. Thanks for sharing it with us.

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Yes, thanks for sharing!
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Old 04-20-2014, 12:20 PM   #4
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$41k is probably not bad if it is as solid as it looks. Try restoring one from scratch and tally up the costs.
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Old 04-20-2014, 03:46 PM   #5
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it's not chickle/cobra drab like the ad says, but it still looks nice.
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Old 04-20-2014, 04:04 PM   #6
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it's not chickle/cobra drab like the ad says, but it still looks nice.
I noticed that. Unless the color balance of the photo is WAY off. It looks more like shades of green...
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Old 04-20-2014, 04:07 PM   #7
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there are plenty that are pretty on the top side,,, but i would like to see whats under the skirt..
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Old 04-20-2014, 05:04 PM   #8
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$41,000 ??? $30,000 to $35,000 sounds more like it... Just keep the top up...l.o.l.
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Old 04-20-2014, 07:06 PM   #9
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Nice car... Question for the experts out there: Did Model A's have leather interiors like that car has?
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Old 04-20-2014, 09:13 PM   #10
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The interior could be vinyl... The 400A was considered an open car I suppose so wouldn't have had cloth interior originally...???
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Old 04-20-2014, 09:14 PM   #11
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Pete and Marco can check me out on this: The 40B Deluxe, Deluxe Roadster, 180A, Deluxe Phaeton, and the 400A, Convertible Sedan, all had Moroccan Two Toned tan leather interiors. None other did. The 35B Standard Phaeton has been restored with the Moroccan Tan leather and called a Deluxe Phaeton...it is not.
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Old 04-20-2014, 09:37 PM   #12
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I believe some production slant window sedans had it as an option- black?
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Old 04-20-2014, 10:12 PM   #13
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There is a Canadian Victoria we know of with black leather interior, original from the factory.
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Old 04-21-2014, 01:36 AM   #14
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All 400A came with brown leather interior. This was Fords top of the line car in 31. Dlx open cars had brown leather interiors.
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Old 04-21-2014, 07:15 AM   #15
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Copra Drab and Chickle drab? I always thought they were two shades of brown. I tried every pair of glasses and it still looked like some kind of a one tone green to me. Anybody care to to comment?
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Old 04-21-2014, 07:47 AM   #16
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[QUOTE=Terry,NJ;862814]Copra Drab and Chickle drab? I always thought they were two shades of brown. I tried every pair of glasses and it still looked like some kind of a one tone green to me. Anybody care to to comment?
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Chickle and copra are on the green side for sure but this car may be a little too green. He did say it was an early restoration so it may be off the two tone is incorrect the way they have it tapped off. In any case if I had the cash on hand I would pay the asking price.
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Very nice looking car. Aren't they pretty rare?
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Color misrepresentation is very common with digital cameras, and monitors vary as well. Greens and blues can be the worst. I would never go by pics to verify a color.
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Very nice looking car. Aren't they pretty rare?
Very Rare, A local man picked one up in the east last summer and I heard he paid north of 40K for it and felt he got a deal on it.
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Old 04-21-2014, 10:00 AM   #20
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Nice looking desirable car, and just from those pictures, worth the money.
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Price is probably fair if it's in decent condition, and the wood isn't rotted out of it. Color scheme isn't original, but it doesn't look bad on it. A complete running A400 that needs total restoration will sell for roughly 20k. To buy one all done that's atleast of driver quality for 35-41k doesn't seem to out be out of question. Atleast not to me, but after working in the restoration field for several years now, and after having been apart of a A400 restoration, I know how expensive the build can get real quick.
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To swo4rd..... the answer to your question,,,, " NO " Original Fordor "STANDARD PHAETON had the same interior as 400A , 180A and 40B...There are "NO" Fordor Deluxe phaetons...Now 1930/31 STANDARD PHAETON came in Black/Brown two-tone Cobra Cross grain artificial leather. They did not come Deluxe top material , did not come with Deluxe interior and NO Cream wheels and NO color combo WASHINGTON BLUE / RIVIERA BLUE ! Am i getting close to the car you have seen? I was barred off a FACEBOOK site that someone with GREAT OLD pictures posted. I seen such a car just finished and read: FULLY "CORRECT" RESTORED ..That's when i corrected him and got barred...i can not make anymore comments...on his post...I made a honest correction to his wrong description..Anyone can do what ever they want to do with their car but don't state FULLY """CORRECT""" RESTORED CAR...and think you can get away with it...

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To swo4rd..... the answer to your question,,,, " NO " Original Fordor "STANDARD PHAETON had the same interior as 400A , 180A and 40B...There are "NO" Fordor Deluxe phaetons...Now 1930/31 STANDARD PHAETON came in Black/Brown two-tone Cobra Cross grain artificial leather. They did not come Deluxe top material , did not come with Deluxe interior and NO Cream wheels and NO color combo WASHINGTON BLUE / RIVIERA BLUE ! Am i getting close to the car you have seen? I was barred off a FACEBOOK site that someone with GREAT OLD pictures posted. I seen such a car just finished and read: FULLY "CORRECT" RESTORED ..That's when i corrected him and got barred...i can not make anymore comments...on his post...I made a honest correction to his wrong description..Anyone can do what ever they want to do with their car but don't state FULLY """CORRECT""" RESTORED CAR...and think you can get away with it...
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"All original."

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TODD3131 ...no ,,the person who post pictures of "A's" and early V8's and Bikes posted the picture... He must of taken the picture or someone sent it to him... it was not for sale..The one thing that bugs me is the words RESTORED "{CORRECTLY}''Someone not in the know will pay for the incorrectly restored "A" or a person with a Model "A" wanted the same look and thinks its correct. Until he shows it or tries to sell it after dumping a ton of money into it.
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TODD3131 ...no ,,the person who post pictures of "A's" and early V8's and Bikes posted the picture... He must of taken the picture or someone sent it to him... it was not for sale..The one thing that bugs me is the words RESTORED "{CORRECTLY}''Someone not in the know will pay for the incorrectly restored "A" or a person with a Model "A" wanted the same look and thinks its correct. Until he shows it or tries to sell it after dumping a ton of money into it.
I hate to say it but I have seen this scenario more time than I can remember but if someone is going to buy any type of collector car they need to educate themselves about the car they are going to buy and they need to have someone who is knowledgeable look at it also I have done this many times for people,
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Old 04-23-2014, 03:02 PM   #27
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Your right Todd , i was showing a fully restored 1931 coupe and a owner of another 1931 coupe came up to me and said i was missing my grab handles.... [ i said they are call TOP REST RAILS] for Roadsters when the top is folded down... They did NOT come on coupes ! People put them on as a grab handle to get into the rumble seat... All he could say is the restoration shop said they were correct. Like you said if you are going to buy a car or have it restored DO YOUR HOMEWORK.
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add says early restoration,pictures don't show much,might not be worth it,you would have to see it.
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