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msmaron · 05-07-2010, 06:11 PM

Flasher will now work on many of them. I want to use my existing cowl lights as turn signals and parking lights, want the tail lights (LCD) and the Brakelighter to work also
Any recommendations to what i should use.
mark

Jim Parker Toronto · 05-07-2010, 06:20 PM

Mark, that would be perfect. You could use any flasher when you hook that all up. LED's don't draw enough power themselves to operate (any) flasher. With incandesant lamps in the system, you could any flasher and it should work fine!

msmaron · 05-07-2010, 06:27 PM

[QUOTE= LED's don't draw enough power themselves to operate (any) flasher. With incandesant lamps in the system, you could any flasher and it should work fine![/QUOTE]

OK but that tells me i have to go back to STANDARD Bulbs in the tail lights, Something that i wanted to avoid.. IS that what your saying?

Jim Parker Toronto · 05-07-2010, 06:43 PM

No, what are you using in the cowl lights?

msmaron · 05-07-2010, 06:48 PM

Right now i have standard bulbs, i can change to double filament of needed, But concern is the TAIL LIGHTS that are NOW LCD??

Jim/GA · 05-07-2010, 06:54 PM

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Conventional flasher units use the current draw going to the lights that are flashing to turn them off and on. A little spring inside the unit gets hot from the current flowing through it and opens up the contacts. With no current, the spring cools and the points close. Repeat...

LED lights draw very little current, so your lights may not flash with a conventional flasher because not enough current goes through it to open the points. However, there are "electronic" flasher units that are not sensitive to current load. If you can find one of them, you will be good. HTH.

You do not say if you are 6V, 12V, etc., so YMMV. But that's what you need.

roccaas · 05-07-2010, 06:55 PM

I run a SigStat 900 with LED Tails, Standard bulb Cowls for directionals. I ran the Cowl light wires off of the harness into a pair of Cat Eyes Amber Driving lights.

Here's the wiring diagram.

http://www.film.queensu.ca/CJ3B/Tech/SignalWiring.html

msmaron · 05-07-2010, 06:57 PM

Thank you for that, and i am 6 volt.....NOW where do i get that flasher!!

msmaron · 05-07-2010, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roccaas

I run a SigStat 900 with LED Tails, Standard bulb Cowls for directionals. I ran the Cowl light wires off of the harness into a pair of Cat Eyes Amber Driving lights.

Here's the wiring diagram.

http://www.film.queensu.ca/CJ3B/Tech/SignalWiring.html

Thank you for this, Where did you by the unit and if i am looking at correct this is it and seems very basic setup? IS this correct, LED tail lights work as signals and cowl lights with standard bulbs.

roccaas · 05-07-2010, 07:20 PM

Mine was on the car when I bought it, but I had to rewire everything last year. There is a weird little crimp at the brake light switch that I cannot grasp with logic, but it works.

Flasher is #A-13311 at Snyders.

roccaas · 05-07-2010, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by msmaron

Thank you for this, Where did you by the unit and if i am looking at correct this is it and seems very basic setup? IS this correct, LED tail lights work as signals and cowl lights with standard bulbs.

Yes, it runs the LED's at the rear and bulbs in the cowls. Very basic wiring, I zip strap the wires and flasher down the steering column. The flasher does seem to be heat sensitive (it was under the hood originally), and the steering column seems more to its liking.

Frank The Plumber · 05-07-2010, 07:31 PM

Mark, you just need to put any regular bulb on each side of your flasher, it can even be an indicator bulb on your instrument cluster, you just need something to trigger a draw response from your flasher unit.

Tom Wesenberg · 05-07-2010, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Parker Toronto

Mark, that would be perfect. You could use any flasher when you hook that all up. LED's don't draw enough power themselves to operate (any) flasher. With incandesant lamps in the system, you could any flasher and it should work fine!

Jim, I made a flasher that is completely independant of the load. I think Kevin from NJ has the information on his site. It consists of a capacitor and relay and will click even with no lights of any kind.

msmaron · 05-07-2010, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Wesenberg

Jim, I made a flasher that is completely independant of the load. I think Kevin from NJ has the information on his site. It consists of a capacitor and relay and will click even with no lights of any kind.

Tom can i see that?

dmaxweb · 05-07-2010, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roccaas

I run a SigStat 900 with LED Tails, Standard bulb Cowls for directionals. I ran the Cowl light wires off of the harness into a pair of Cat Eyes Amber Driving lights.

Here's the wiring diagram.

http://www.film.queensu.ca/CJ3B/Tech/SignalWiring.html

In the wiring diagram for the 902/903 switch, is the SigStat anything more than a simple DPDT on-off-on toggle switch? I don't want the lever mounted on the steering column but rater a small toggle under the dash rail.

Dennis L Oberer · 05-07-2010, 10:02 PM

Email me for help...I have them....they work just fine.

Dennis L Oberer
Green Bay WI

Mike V. Florida · 05-08-2010, 12:00 AM

Electronic flasher unit should work not sure about the 6 volt, maybe for old VW's

BillLee/Chandler, TX · 05-08-2010, 07:03 AM

I have collected a whole set of turn signal wiring diagrams, and they may be found at

http://www.cedarcreekas.org/

in the "TechTopics" section. In addition there is an article there regarding installing them along with the changes required if you're converting to a 12v system.

To answer the original question: a standard flasher will work just fine with LED tail lights as long as there is an incandescent bulb somewhere else in the system: e.g., the cowl light (i.e., front turn signal bulb) or an indicator light or...

Regards,

Bill Lee

05-07-2010, 06:11 PM	#1
msmaron Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wauconda, IL Posts: 3,600	Does anyone know of Turn signals that work with LCD Tail-lights, have been told the Flasher will now work on many of them. I want to use my existing cowl lights as turn signals and parking lights, want the tail lights (LCD) and the Brakelighter to work also Any recommendations to what i should use. mark __________________ Mark Maron Ill., Region MARC & MAFCA MARC JSC Member MAFFI Trustee National Facebook Admin. https://www.facebook.com/groups/MARC.group/ A7191-Sport Coupe 29 Roadster 29-Town Sedan 29-Original Special Coupe

05-07-2010, 06:20 PM	#2
Jim Parker Toronto Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,289	Re: Does anyone know of Turn signals that work with LCD Tail-lights, have been told t Mark, that would be perfect. You could use any flasher when you hook that all up. LED's don't draw enough power themselves to operate (any) flasher. With incandesant lamps in the system, you could any flasher and it should work fine!

05-07-2010, 06:27 PM	#3
msmaron Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wauconda, IL Posts: 3,600	Re: Does anyone know of Turn signals that work with LCD Tail-lights, have been told t [QUOTE= LED's don't draw enough power themselves to operate (any) flasher. With incandesant lamps in the system, you could any flasher and it should work fine![/QUOTE] OK but that tells me i have to go back to STANDARD Bulbs in the tail lights, Something that i wanted to avoid.. IS that what your saying? __________________ Mark Maron Ill., Region MARC & MAFCA MARC JSC Member MAFFI Trustee National Facebook Admin. https://www.facebook.com/groups/MARC.group/ A7191-Sport Coupe 29 Roadster 29-Town Sedan 29-Original Special Coupe

05-07-2010, 06:43 PM	#4
Jim Parker Toronto Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,289	Re: Does anyone know of Turn signals that work with LCD Tail-lights, have been told t No, what are you using in the cowl lights?

05-07-2010, 06:48 PM	#5
msmaron Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wauconda, IL Posts: 3,600	Re: Does anyone know of Turn signals that work with LCD Tail-lights, have been told t Right now i have standard bulbs, i can change to double filament of needed, But concern is the TAIL LIGHTS that are NOW LCD?? __________________ Mark Maron Ill., Region MARC & MAFCA MARC JSC Member MAFFI Trustee National Facebook Admin. https://www.facebook.com/groups/MARC.group/ A7191-Sport Coupe 29 Roadster 29-Town Sedan 29-Original Special Coupe

05-07-2010, 06:54 PM	#6
Jim/GA Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Young Harris, GA Posts: 1,815	Re: Does anyone know of Turn signals that work with LCD Tail-lights, have been told t Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Conventional flasher units use the current draw going to the lights that are flashing to turn them off and on. A little spring inside the unit gets hot from the current flowing through it and opens up the contacts. With no current, the spring cools and the points close. Repeat... LED lights draw very little current, so your lights may not flash with a conventional flasher because not enough current goes through it to open the points. However, there are "electronic" flasher units that are not sensitive to current load. If you can find one of them, you will be good. HTH. You do not say if you are 6V, 12V, etc., so YMMV. But that's what you need.

05-07-2010, 06:55 PM	#7
roccaas Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Savannah, GA Posts: 1,300	Re: Does anyone know of Turn signals that work with LCD Tail-lights, have been told t I run a SigStat 900 with LED Tails, Standard bulb Cowls for directionals. I ran the Cowl light wires off of the harness into a pair of Cat Eyes Amber Driving lights. Here's the wiring diagram. http://www.film.queensu.ca/CJ3B/Tech/SignalWiring.html

05-07-2010, 06:57 PM	#8
msmaron Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wauconda, IL Posts: 3,600	Re: Does anyone know of Turn signals that work with LCD Tail-lights, have been told t Thank you for that, and i am 6 volt.....NOW where do i get that flasher!! __________________ Mark Maron Ill., Region MARC & MAFCA MARC JSC Member MAFFI Trustee National Facebook Admin. https://www.facebook.com/groups/MARC.group/ A7191-Sport Coupe 29 Roadster 29-Town Sedan 29-Original Special Coupe

05-07-2010, 07:20 PM	#10
roccaas Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Savannah, GA Posts: 1,300	Re: Does anyone know of Turn signals that work with LCD Tail-lights, have been told t Mine was on the car when I bought it, but I had to rewire everything last year. There is a weird little crimp at the brake light switch that I cannot grasp with logic, but it works. Flasher is #A-13311 at Snyders.

05-07-2010, 07:31 PM	#12
Frank The Plumber Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 693	Re: Does anyone know of Turn signals that work with LCD Tail-lights, have been told t Mark, you just need to put any regular bulb on each side of your flasher, it can even be an indicator bulb on your instrument cluster, you just need something to trigger a draw response from your flasher unit.

05-07-2010, 10:02 PM	#16
Dennis L Oberer Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Green Bay WI Posts: 179	Re: Does anyone know of Turn signals that work with LCD Tail-lights, have been told t Email me for help...I have them....they work just fine. Dennis L Oberer Green Bay WI

05-08-2010, 12:00 AM	#17
Mike V. Florida Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: South Florida Posts: 14,054	Re: Does anyone know of Turn signals that work with LCD Tail-lights, have been told t Electronic flasher unit should work not sure about the 6 volt, maybe for old VW's __________________ What's right about America is that although we have a mess of problems, we have great capacity - intellect and resources - to do some thing about them. - Henry Ford II

05-08-2010, 07:03 AM	#18
BillLee/Chandler, TX Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: The sticks of east Texas Posts: 474	Re: Does anyone know of Turn signals that work with LCD Tail-lights, have been told t I have collected a whole set of turn signal wiring diagrams, and they may be found at http://www.cedarcreekas.org/ in the "TechTopics" section. In addition there is an article there regarding installing them along with the changes required if you're converting to a 12v system. To answer the original question: a standard flasher will work just fine with LED tail lights as long as there is an incandescent bulb somewhere else in the system: e.g., the cowl light (i.e., front turn signal bulb) or an indicator light or... Regards, Bill Lee