Arturo's 48 more door

[elturo]

A few months ago I had the privilege of inheriting this 48' from my great uncle (my Grandfathers brother). My uncle has always been a collector of fine automobiles. It's a beautiful car and a great driver. It's a real privilege to be the next caretaker of this car. I thought you all might enjoy a few pictures of it.

['36 5W]

Very nice example!
Always a great privilege to be the next family caretaker and have the complete history
of the car.

[Bulligen]

Very nice, please enjoy you new Ford!

[Darrell S]

Very nice, 48's are neat!

[RKS.PA]

Beautiful car and great pictures. Looks like there's not too much to be done. BTW, the other cars in your garage look pretty awesome as well!!!

[Graeme / New Zealand]

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I have a soft spot for "more doors" they were the staple US sourced Ford available here in NZ.

GB

[jrvariel48]

That's a beauty!!

[elturo]

Originally Posted by RKS.PA

Beautiful car and great pictures. Looks like there's not too much to be done. BTW, the other cars in your garage look pretty awesome as well!!!

The other cars are surely not in my garage, I wish !

The 48' doesn't need much. Everything works but the radio. It drives great. Fires right up ! Thanks!

[edhd58]

Very nice car, but it has the G series 6 cylinder which isnt original to a 48

[waterboychuck]

Enjoy it and drive the hell out of it. It's no good sitting in the garage.

[tubman]

Originally Posted by edhd58

Very nice car, but it has the G series 6 cylinder which isn't original to a 48

Can you explain this to us non-six cylinder people? I always thought the the "G" 6 cylinder motors were '41-'48 and they went to "H" series in 1949.

[mercman from oz]

Specifications of the 2 very different Six Cylinder Ford Motors.

The “G” series engine was still very Ford-like. The “H” series engine was almost a copy of a Plymouth, Pontiac, or Studebaker six. If you can, refer, for example, to pages 210-213 in the “Green Bible” (Chassis Parts and Accessories Catalogue, Passenger Cars 1928 thru 1948 and Trucks 1928 thru 1947).

Both were L-Head engines and both used timing gears rather than the timing chain used on the Plymouth and Pontiac sixes.

“G” Series
Distributor on front of engine
Oil pump on front main bearing cap like V-8 60 and 9N tractor
Mushroom-foot valves
Split valve guides retained by horse shoe clip
“H” Series
Distributor on side of engine
Oil pump on right side of engine below exhaust manifold
Valves with split keepers
Pressed-in valve guides

Specifications
“G” Series
Bore: 3.3
Stroke: 4.4
Displacement: 226.0
Compression Ratio: 6.70
Brake Horsepower: 90@3300

“H” Series
Bore: 3.3
Stroke: 4.4
Displacement: 226.0
Compression Ratio: 6.80
Brake Horsepower: 95@3300

[edhd58]

The following information was copy/pasted from the VanPelt website. This and other sites I used when rebuilding my motor (42 G six cylinder) is where I came to the conclusion I did.

The original G Series engine was used in Ford Special, Ford Deluxe, and Ford Super Deluxe passenger cars. It was also used in Ford Commercial and Truck models (except COE - cab over engine). The engine was rated at 90hp at 3300 rpm.

The first two years (1941 to 42) models used Holley single barrel carburetors (1GA-9510-A). The 1946 to 47 models used the Holley single barrel carburetor (5GA-9510-A).

In late September 1947 Ford changed the six cylinder engine to the H Series which had the same bore/stroke and displacement of the earlier G Series engine from 1941 to 1947. The newer engine had slightly higher compression and the new "Loadamatic" type distributor. 1951 was the last production year for the flathead six as Ford introduced the new over-head valve six for 1952. Other changes include larger main bearing journals, new rotor type oil pump, newer Holley carburetor (8HA-9510-A), new water pump, and one-piece valve guides. In early 1950 the camshaft was changed. Otherwise, the basic engine remained similar to the G Series design of '41 to '47. The block and head were of cast iron with the valves located in the block. The newer version gained 5hp over the G Series. The engine is easily distinguished from the G Series by distributor location....the new Loadamatic distributor is mounted to the left side of the cylinder block near the middle of the engine.

[edhd58]

Now with all that said, I have a firm belief Ford used up old stock until it ran out. That being said I wish to re-cant my statement the motor may not be original. My 42 has a tag on the seat that says its was from a run made for the 41. If thats an early 48 it just may be possible (my opinion) that motor is original. My apologies to elturo, that is one fine looking car and the family tie just makes it that much more special.

[mercman from oz]

That is one very nice looking car, even if if has "more" doors than Two.

[mercman from oz]

G6 Ford Engine on display at the Ford V8 Foundation Museum at Auburn, Indiana.

[flatford8]

Nice car...... Congrats!!!!.....as others have said the family tie is priceless. Enjoy!!!...... Mark

[Old Henry]

Woah! A kissin' cousin to Old Henry for sure. Beautiful car! Hope you have as much fun with it as I do with Old Henry, also a family heirloom. These cars love the open road.

[corvette8n]

Nice car with plenty of room, enjoy.

[Graeme / New Zealand]

Originally Posted by Old Henry

Woah! A kissin' cousin to Old Henry for sure. Beautiful car! Hope you have as much fun with it as I do with Old Henry, also a family heirloom. These cars love the open road.

I hate that term Old Henry........my ex wife ran off with her cousin from Holland () but I agree with you beautiful car. Fordoors really do not get the accolades they deserve. In NZ in hot rodding circles they are known as a "ford house", lots of door and windows....big enough to live in or at least hold a party.

GB

[Old Henry]

Originally Posted by Graeme / New Zealand

In NZ in hot rodding circles they are known as a "ford house", lots of door and windows....big enough to live in or at least hold a party.GB

I have certainly done some partying in mine, starting way back in high school. Won't give details of all that went on in the back seat . . . . while I was in the front driving.

[Zephyr Q]

Originally Posted by elturo

The other cars are surely not in my garage, I wish !

The 48' doesn't need much. Everything works but the radio. It drives great. Fires right up ! Thanks!

For a number of years the radio was the only thing that did work on my car, consider yourself very lucky.

[5851a]

I always prefer 2 doors but the older I get the less it means to me. I sure wouldn't turn down that one. That looks really nice.

[cas3]

one of my friends always said, "whenever you buy a used car, always buy a four door, that way you get two doors for free!

[dwick01]

Beautiful car!

[elturo]

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Thank you everyone for the kind words. I appreciate the info on the H & G series motors. I knew waould learn something by posting this thread. Here's another picture of the motor.

[edhd58]

elturo, thanks for posting the driver side of the engine. I am attempting to finish my engine compartment and forgot to take pictures of EVERYTHING when i dismantled it. that was a big help.

[elturo]

Originally Posted by edhd58

elturo, thanks for posting the driver side of the engine. I am attempting to finish my engine compartment and forgot to take pictures of EVERYTHING when i dismantled it. that was a big help.

Glad it was helpful. Let me know if you need any more. Do you happen to know what the numbers are on the firewall ?

[Vintage Copper 47]

Originally Posted by elturo

Thank you everyone for the kind words. I appreciate the info on the H & G series motors. I knew waould learn something by posting this thread. Here's another picture of the motor.

Your heater core hoses are more centered on the firewall than my 47... otherwise.. it is same motor as mine, though you can't see it in the first photo.. I have the core removed (for now).. but you can see it in the 2nd photo

[elturo]

Any suggestions on adding skirts ? I would like to add some. thanks!

[zzlegend]

NO. Just my 2 1/2 cents

[elturo]

Originally Posted by zzlegend

NO. Just my 2 1/2 cents

oh maaan.. come on ZZlegend. you don't like skirts ?

[coolcoupe]

I would think that the engine is stock as the battery is on the drivers side. I guess they did for the 6 cy.

[elturo]

Originally Posted by coolcoupe

I would think that the engine is stock as the battery is on the drivers side. I guess they did for the 6 cy.

Thanks coolcoupe, yes from what we can tell, it's pretty much all stock. It fires right up and seems to be dependable - so far.

Now I'm looking for some skirts.. not sure if 48's came with.

[zzlegend]

Originally Posted by elturo

oh maaan.. come on ZZlegend. you don't like skirts ?

Well,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,yes,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i do like skirts. But it kind of depends on who is wearing them.
But as for a 48 Ford,,,,,,not really. Just my choice. But hey,,,,,,,,,,,,,if they blow your Skirt up,,,,,,,Oops,,,just a pun there,,,, Then I say run them. That's what makes Old Hot Rods cool. No cookie cutter. Every one should do their car as they like. By the way. That's is a very nice sedan. You did good.

[Vintage Copper 47]

It's a Calif car.. as well!

[elturo]

ZZLegend.. haha ! I ran skirts on my 50 and will run them on my 36. First thing my daughter said when I got the 48 was "don't ruin this one with skirts, just leave it alone"
I have to at least see what they look like..

VintageCopper47 how do you know it's a CA car? I do know it was purchased at Pomona.

[zzlegend]

I like skirts on a 50. But a 48? Um, not really. And looking at your previous pictures, it looks like California plates mounted on it. Very nice car.

[elturo]

Haha..yeah I got the car from CA. However I'm not sure if it's always been a CA car.

[flathead48]

Very nice, best of luck with it.

[Vintage Copper 47]

Originally Posted by elturo

ZZLegend.. haha ! I ran skirts on my 50 and will run them on my 36. First thing my daughter said when I got the 48 was "don't ruin this one with skirts, just leave it alone"
I have to at least see what they look like..

VintageCopper47 how do you know it's a CA car? I do know it was purchased at Pomona.

One of your photos shows a CALIF plate... I am a trained observer

[elturo]

QUOTE=flathead48;1604577]Very nice, best of luck with it.[/QUOTE]

flathead48 thanks ! It's fun to drive.

[rockfla]

Arturo
I know you have stated that "it fires right up!" BUT IF it is still a 6V system you have the wrong sized battery cables for you system, the ones you have are for 12V systems...I am quite surprised no one has mentioned that...even though it fires right up you may want to address the cable issue for the optimum performance and charging of you 6V system.

[elturo]

Originally Posted by rockfla

Arturo
I know you have stated that "it fires right up!" BUT IF it is still a 6V system you have the wrong sized battery cables for you system, the ones you have are for 12V systems...I am quite surprised no one has mentioned that...even though it fires right up you may want to address the cable issue for the optimum performance and charging of you 6V system.

rockfla - Yes it's a 6V. Actually, it doesn't "fire right up". I figured it was because I rarely drive it. Lets say once a month-maybe. When I turn the key, it feels like I have to find a "sweet spot" for the motor to turn over. I tried a new starter motor and the same thing. The choke works and it has an electric fuel pump. I keep it on a batter tender.

[rockfla]

Two things, First..get the right sized battery cables. Second....make sure your ground at the frame is good and clean and any other grounds you have like from the engine to the body etc etc clean them good and re attach them..I'll bet you a dollar the outcome will be quite different.

[elturo]

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Originally Posted by rockfla

Two things, First..get the right sized battery cables. Second....make sure your ground at the frame is good and clean and any other grounds you have like from the engine to the body etc etc clean them good and re attach them..I'll bet you a dollar the outcome will be quite different.

I just realized you were looking at old pictures I posted of when I 1st got the car. After replacing the battery we also changed the cables. Here's the latest.

[40cpe]

I'm glad you changed the cables. I was concerned about that braided strap going to the starter solenoid.

[elturo]

What should the cable size be ? 00? The ones that I replaced them have no markings.
I only noticed the one ground from the battery cable post to the side of the motor.

[rockfla]

Generally "O" is big enough BUT the further distance from the battery to the starter "OO" wouldn't hurt!!! Always remember that obviously 6V is half the volts BUT its twice the amps as 12V so wire size is critical. Make sure ALL of your grounds are in place and good and clean too!!!! After you clean your grounding areas real good, I use a thin swipe of dielectric grease to help keep the connection clean and from corrosion. You can use other stuff as well, my dad has used vasoline (petroleum jelly) for years!!!!

[Clem Clement]

Lovely car. None of my beeswax, but I'm no fan of the green-knobbed power cut off. They like to corrode at the point of connection.

[rockfla]

Clem
Take the cables loose from your cut off and clean them and spread a little coat of vasoline on them, your issue will be gone!!

[elturo]

Originally Posted by rockfla

Clem
Take the cables loose from your cut off and clean them and spread a little coat of vasoline on them, your issue will be gone!!

Clem,
I think your referring to the old motor pictures ?