Oil Filter Canister Blues

[Shoebox]

I am having a heck of a time with something so common, the factory oil filter canister. Finishing my 8ba 276 engine build and I want an original oil filter. I took one I had and just sent it in for chroming,....only to realize upon it's return that it is one that mounts to head bolts, NOT what I wanted and a very expensive mistake (its for sale)! So I pick up another off that auction site and what's with this? See pic. This washer/plate thing at the top of the tube? I am thinking it is a remnant of a deceased oil filter, there are bits at the bottom that seem to indicate this, but boy this thing is really on there. Thought I'd post here before getting rough with removing it. Thanks.

[flatford8]

I’ve got a bunch of those.....if that one doesn’t work.....send me a message........Mark

[ford38v8]

Just a guess… that washer looks to be the same diameter as a toilet paper roll. Back in the day, toilet paper was used instead of a real oil filter in order to save money. Check it out and tell us if I win a chicken dinner!

[Shoebox]

Originally Posted by ford38v8

Just a guess… that washer looks to be the same diameter as a toilet paper roll. Back in the day, toilet paper was used instead of a real oil filter in order to save money. Check it out and tell us if I win a chicken dinner!

Perhaps you're right, but the crumbling remaining bits seem to indicate a filter that disintigrated in the canister over time.

[tubman]

I'd be interested in the chromed filter. PM me if it's still available.

[aussie merc]

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looks like there are more problems than just a stuck washer i would be check out the swap meets [P.S. take a spanner and open them up before you commit ]

[corvette8n]

The replacement looks like something from a Ford 8N tractor.

[Shoebox]

Originally Posted by aussie merc

looks like there are more problems than just a stuck washer i would be check out the swap meets [P.S. take a spanner and open them up before you commit ]

What else are YOU seeing? Thanks.

[JayChicago]

One thing to check is: is the return path clear? Here is a pic of a common oil filter's return holes. Not sure if your filter cannister works the same way.

[19Fordy]

The chrome filter cannister will work if you use 3 of these head bolts with studs as shown in first photo and second photos. In the photo, the third bolt is hidden by the cannister.
Third photo shows cannister mounted to head using 3/8-16 bolts.

[Shoebox]

Originally Posted by JayChicago

One thing to check is: is the return path clear? Here is a pic of a common oil filter's return holes. Not sure if your filter cannister works the same way.

On my nice chrome canister the return holes are present as you depict, my recently acquired canister is too crusty at this time, to see them. That washer at the top of the tube does seem to be welded and I just cant understand how a filter could go on it.

[19Fordy]

Looks like that washer should be installed inside the top lid of the cannister as in photo #4. Filter can't be installed with that washer in the way. Here's another photo of a 1950-53 cannister. Don't forget to install a soft copper washer under the head of the lid bolt.

[Shoebox]

Originally Posted by tubman

I'd be interested in the chromed filter. PM me if it's still available.

PM sent.

[Shoebox]

Well, just to conclude this episode, that was a washer rusted to the top of the tube. Took some heat and twisting and it came off. The inside is kinda crusty, going to blast the canister inside and out and see if this thing can be used once again. Thanks.

[cas3]

I would soak it in Evaporust or, Rust 911 to ensure there is no sand left behind

[flatford8]

One of these nifty little adapters would fix a problem like this ..........Mark

[19Fordy]

I made 2 of these adapters from 1/4 in. thick aluminum if anyone needs them.

[aussie merc]

shoe box sorry so long to reply been away its what im not seeing no base washer and plenty of rust need to keep crap out not add it. Also some have the spring in the base not the lid. Thats why i always look before i pay

[Shoebox]

Originally Posted by aussie merc

shoe box sorry so long to reply been away its what im not seeing no base washer and plenty of rust need to keep crap out not add it. Also some have the spring in the base not the lid. Thats why i always look before i pay

All true for sure. Even after soaking in Evaporust for days I'm not happy with the inside, as you say "need to keep crap out not add it". I am back to looking for a NICE filter canister that uses the 3 threaded bosses on head for mounting. Thanks.

[barnfind08]

I have a nos one

[Shoebox]

Originally Posted by barnfind08

i have a nos one

pm sent

[N8IWS]

Originally Posted by flatford8

I’ve got a bunch of those.....if that one doesn’t work.....send me a message........Mark

I'm interested in a whole complete unit for my 46. I don't have anything that shows where it would mount.

[flatford8]

I have one that isn’t 8BA. Another poster has inquired about it and I’m waiting for him to respond to my message to help me determine what it fits..........Mark

[slowforty]

I knew a fellow who drilled and tapped the three head bolts and put studs in them.
He has lots of time on his hands.

[tubman]

Replacing the head nuts with coupling nuts. You might have to cut them down to keep the filter housing at a reasonable height.

[cas3]

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Yes, the correct nuts have a small shoulder on them as the holes in the filter housing are bigger to allow clearance for the shoulder, which is so the same length head stud works.
I would guess they are available, I just trim them down on the lathe.