Manners... A new rule...

[Ryan]

I don't know where to start... So, lets start here. Read that thread in its entirety and note the seemingly endless list of people that feel as though they are being sniped or harassed by other users.

Ironically, some of the people complaining on that thread are the same people that are causing issues. Generally speaking, it's a huge mess... and I'm to blame. I just haven't done a good enough job getting rid of users that are destructive to the community. Today, I'm hoping to get back on the right track.

So, I'm introducing a new rule or protocol for dealing with users that just can't manage to post politely. It's a typical three strike rule. Essentially, a user that posts without manners will be banned for one week. A second offense and they will be banned for a month. A third offense and they will be banned permanently. Automatic bans will also be used for users that are obviously trying to cause problems for either the forum or a specific user.

We will give no special consideration for users with large post counts or specialized Ford Knowledge or anything else. It's a black and white deal.

Be nice or don't post.

***

I need help however... If someone posts something derogatory towards you, don't respond (if you further instigate the problem, you could be banned as well) - instead, use the report button. Help us weed out the people that are being so disruptive. We really need the help fellas...

Oh... and fellas... opinions are fine. However, if you can't post your opinion without bagging on someone else's you need to keep your opinion to yourself. Drama simply isn't welcomed here guys.... under ANY circumstance.

***

This is a fluid deal too. I'm working to clean the joint up and my strategies might fluctuate, but the general message will not.

Thanks fellas... and sorry for all the trouble,

Ryan

[BILL WILLIAMSON]

I "think" it's important to thoroughly read & digest the info, before blabbing my BIG mouth.
"Sometime" a little "humor" helps us to remember some GOOD proven advise.
I only post advise that has worked for me, personally. When not sure, I use quotation marks, like, "MAYBE" or "MIGHT" be helpful.
Bill W.

[Big hammer]

Wow I surely must have missed some excitment! Bill W your humor is always looked for by me! Ryan-------you don't need to apologize ------It's your baby,I hope the bullying will stop
THREE STRIKES AND YOUR OUT!! that will take care of the bullying! Thanks!

[TerryH]

Enough.....thanks for stepping up and putting an end to this destructive habit some have fallen into.....

[ricklove]

Thanks for doing what's "right".

[41plym]

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[31 Model A]

A step in the right direction but, I don't want to sound pessimistic but, don't be surprised if you get a one star rating for your effort. IMO, it's another path to rudeness.

[California Travieso]

Ryan,

You've done great job of moderating this forum. The Barn is actually pretty civil compared to other forum like sports and the news site.

I've been a lurker for three years now and primarily "listen" to the discussions, but I have taken a few shots when I have commented. However, although I can step it up too, I've chosen not to respond because it's not worth it. Sometimes you just need to let it go and move on to something else.

David Serrano

[Ryan]

Originally Posted by 31 Model A

A step in the right direction but, I don't want to sound pessimistic but, don't be surprised if you get a one star rating for your effort. IMO, it's another path to rudeness.

That guy was handed his walking papers this morning... And another was just banned as well... With any luck, this crack down won't take me long.

[31 Model A]

Originally Posted by Ryan

That guy was handed his walking papers this morning... And another was just banned as well... With any luck, this crack down won't take me long.

Thank you....much appreciated.

[JRShaw]

Ryan - I think that I speak for most of the polite, civilized crowd - I, for one, am very grateful for this site and your outstanding work and effort shown in it. There is an educational as well as social aspect to this forum, and the world is a better place for it. Keep up the good work and know that a vast majority of us are behind you always. Take Care

[Ryan]

Originally Posted by JRShaw

Ryan - I think that I speak for most of the polite, civilized crowd - I, for one, am very grateful for this site and your outstanding work and effort shown in it. There is an educational as well as social aspect to this forum, and the world is a better place for it. Keep up the good work and know that a vast majority of us are behind you always. Take Care

In that regard, please know that my harsh words and mostly actions aren't aimed towards the civil crowd just here to learn about old Fords. They are aimed squarely at the former and soon to be former members who are incapable of posting on a forum without thumping their chest or otherwise acting a fool. My big fear with this whole deal is that I run off good members who think I might be targeting them in this effort.

If you've never posted crossly on this forum, you have absolutely nothing to worry about. That's a promise.

[Licensed to kill]

This is great news. I haven't experienced any rudeness on this forum but I don't read all of the threads either. However, I left the HAMB several years ago because of the ongoing rude comments and unsolicited negative opinions/comments. They were never directed at me as i was fairly new to the sight and hadn't posted much but what i was seeing told me that it was not someplace I wanted to be. I suspect that you have taken a similar stance over there so maybe I can check it out again. Thanks Ryan

[Ryan]

Originally Posted by Licensed to kill

This is great news. I haven't experienced any rudeness on this forum but I don't read all of the threads either. However, I left the HAMB several years ago because of the ongoing rude comments and unsolicited negative opinions/comments. They were never directed at me as i was fairly new to the sight and hadn't posted much but what i was seeing told me that it was not someplace I wanted to be. I suspect that you have taken a similar stance over there so maybe I can check it out again. Thanks Ryan

The H.A.M.B. is a much larger forum than the Ford Barn by a multiple of two or three. Even so, reported posts on the HAMB are almost half that of the Ford Barn. Part of that is because the Ford Barn's classified section receives almost 75% of the total traffic of the site, so I tended to spend most of my work time there. That was a mistake on my part as doing so has let the discussion part of the site get far worse than the HAMB has been since the early 2000's probably. I'm changing that obviously.

[TinCup]

So many don't recognize the true value of this board to the Model A hobby. It is indispensable to those wanting to learn from experienced restorer's as well as find parts and materials they need. If it is more important for them to flame others than to truly support the hobby then so be it. So disappointing to have to resort to this kind of kindergarten rules for adults. Thanks Ryan.

[hardtimes]

Hey Ryan,
AGAIN, I am with you 100% of the way in this matter and subject !
I'm just an old no nothing guy, oh except that I was taught to respect others in words and deeds. You are responsible for this forum and have shown that you were taught similarly as most. I'm feeling good that you take that responsibility seriously by your words and deeds. Obviously actions speak louder than words in this matter and your voice/actions will take care that the 'uncivil' ones have no place on your forum. THANKS !!

[ursus]

Ryan, I fully appreciate your position on this matter. It is just a hobby and I don't take anything here personally so I am pretty much immune to this stuff. There are a few here that are a bit prickly and thin-skinned and there are a few that like to take pot shots at others. The real damage is done when new members are given a rude or indifferent welcome and never come back. I have seen some Model A clubs that invite new members, treat them poorly, and wonder why they quit. We don't need any turds in the Fordbarn punchbowl.

[Ryan]

Originally Posted by ursus

Ryan, I fully appreciate your position on this matter. It is just a hobby and I don't take anything here personally so I am pretty much immune to this stuff. There are a few here that are a bit prickly and thin-skinned and there are a few that like to take pot shots at others. The real damage is done when new members are given a rude or indifferent welcome and never come back. I have seen some Model A clubs that invite new members, treat them poorly, and wonder why they quit. We don't need any turds in the Fordbarn punchbowl.

I think a few of these guys feel like their knowledge offsets any ill manners they might display... and others feel as though they are so knowledgeable that the forum as a group should figuratively bow down to obtain that knowledge. In either case, it's not gonna happen.

There really isn't an excuse for treating people like shit on the internet or in real life.

[Jacksonlll]

Ryan, great job. jack

[DougVieyra]

Sometimes rude children need to be reminded of bad behavior - sorry Ryan that we all need to be reminded of that from time to time. However, we all do appreciate your patience and effort to keep us civil with one another.

[pooch]

I hope this does not lead to more reports to you just trying to get others banned.

Maybe along with your 3 strikes rudeness policy and you are out, you could implement the same on reporting.

3 reports with false or unproven facts about someone else and you are out too.

[Ryan]

Originally Posted by pooch

I hope this does not lead to more reports to you just trying to get others banned.

Maybe along with your 3 strikes rudeness policy and you are out, you could implement the same on reporting.

3 reports with false or unproven facts about someone else and you are out too.

Oh trust me... it most certainly will. I'll deal with it.

[29spcoupe]

Ryan, glad to see these steps being taken. I have not posted on one of the Model T clubs forums for many years because of the same problem there. I have only been on this forum for a couple of years and enjoy it very much. John Iaccino

[bnchief]

Ryan i am pretty new here and can honestly say 99% of responses i have had were positive, i just looked by the negative as I have been in old car clubs for years there are always some who think sarcasm is needed there are some great guys here who helped me get my first a running.

[Ray in La Mesa]

This is such a great source of info and I want to thank you, Ryan, for persevering and keeping it honorable.

[prpmmp]

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Question?? Not related to this topic but did not want to start a new thread, what is the test forum? there is some strange posts going on!(spam??) Thanks Pete

[Terry, NJ]

No One, and I repeat No one! Can 'Bully" me, unless I let them! I've been dealing with those who would have bullied me all my life and I'm seventy two years old. But then I'm Irish and Dutch/Deutch and no one had to teach me to fight back, it was instinctual! Now, there's the problem of my ADHD and not being able to gauge the effect of my words on everyone. I have to be very careful of what I say and write. Everything is self edited before I hit the "send" button. But still some stuff get's through. So if I ever say anything that makes you mad, please write me a private note about it. Say what you want! I can take it. I'm not a snowflake! Chances are I've heard it before!
Thanks, Terry

[BILL WILLIAMSON]

There's SO MUCH useless B.S. on the Interweb! It's refreshing when someone like Ryan, tries to keep it DECENT & INFORMATIVE!
Bill W.

[5window]

I think we all could use a bit of decency and it would not hurt any of us to think a bit before we write. It is so easy on the Internet to become a crab or a bully.

[160B]

Originally Posted by prpmmp

Question?? Not related to this topic but did not want to start a new thread, what is the test forum? there is some strange posts going on!(spam??) Thanks Pete

The test forum allows you to practice with posting and see how things work, ie quoting, posting photos, changing font.


[FONT="Arial Black"]The Test Forum
Want to test the features of the new Ford Barn. Do it here![/FONT]

[Dick Steinkamp]

Here's a link to the test forum...

http://www.fordbarn.com/forum/forumd...aysprune=&f=13

[Synchro909]

Old men behaving like old women!
(Not related to the above post.)

[C26Pinelake]

We also have to make sure our jokes are not taken seriously. Sometimes funny to me is not funny to others. Good work Ryan. This is a five star post ! Wayne

[31a]

Thank you

[redmodelt]

Thank you Ryan!
While you are cleaning up stuff how about thinking about getting rid of the Questions and Suggestion section or change the title to more reflect not being for questions about cars.
Thanks
MarkG

[5window]

Originally Posted by redmodelt

Thank you Ryan!
While you are cleaning up stuff how about thinking about getting rid of the Questions and Suggestion section or change the title to more reflect not being for questions about cars.
Thanks
MarkG

Shouldn't this be posted in the Questions and Suggestions section?

[redmodelt]

It has in the past.

[mshmodela]

It will take some major purging of the bullies on this site...
Best wishes with that.

[Ryan]

Originally Posted by mshmodela

It will take some major purging of the bullies on this site...
Best wishes with that.

Are you a betting man?

[mshmodela]

Originally Posted by Ryan

Are you a betting man?

No, rubs me the wrong way, but truely good luck with it since tossing out customers who help generate profits for your web site is a hard call. In the end every needs to respectful. Most are but the few bad apples do.. Well you know...

[Ryan]

Originally Posted by mshmodela

No, rubs me the wrong way, but truely good luck with it since tossing out customers who help generate profits for your web site is a hard call. In the end every needs to respectful. Most are but the few bad apples do.. Well you know...

The ford barn doesn't make much money at all, so that's not really a driver. The biggest motivation I have to get the kids out is simply not having to deal with them any longer. Seriously.

[bnchief]

Kind of reminds me of when people show up here and I have a sign that says beware of dog and a guy asks does your dog bite? Kinda like poking the administrator and wondering what will happen. Glad your here Ryan.

[P.S.]

I seldom check in here anymore, largely due to reasons previously stated. I hope it becomes a friendly place as a result of the new vigor in cleaning house.

My only fear is that some of the truly knowledgeable people who have left will not know it is safe to return and when we want to know something technical or specialized, that our inquiry will go unanswered.

[msmaron]

Originally Posted by P.S.

I seldom check in here anymore, largely due to reasons previously stated. I hope it becomes a friendly place as a result of the new vigor in cleaning house.

My only fear is that some of the truly knowledgeable people who have left will not know it is safe to return and when we want to know something technical or specialized, that our inquiry will go unanswered.

I think your over exaggerating paul, i have seen your posts as you know and your questions seem to always be answered in a polite and helpful way and YES many many of the knowledgable people are gone from the site and will not return.... sadly.

[Ryan]

Originally Posted by P.S.

I seldom check in here anymore, largely due to reasons previously stated. I hope it becomes a friendly place as a result of the new vigor in cleaning house.

My only fear is that some of the truly knowledgeable people who have left will not know it is safe to return and when we want to know something technical or specialized, that our inquiry will go unanswered.

Your stats show you to be a pretty regular user as of late. My intention is make sure it stays that way.

Originally Posted by msmaron

I think your over exaggerating paul, i have seen your posts as you know and your questions seem to always be answered in a polite and helpful way and YES many many of the knowledgable people are gone from the site and will not return.... sadly.

Sure... some have left... but I'd bet you could still get any question you wanted answered in short time.

And many of the regular drama guys are also pretty knowledgeable sadly. They will be gone as well of course...

Point is this: You can have a really rich community full of knowledge and without all of the name calling and chest thumping. It's possible. And I hope to make that happen here.

[pooch]

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I have been here for a while and have learned a lot about Model A/s both from here and elsewhere.

Sure there are a few egos here .

I find the best way is to just stop responding when they chest thump and tell you how good they are.

They are in full noise mid stream talking over you and you just walk out of the thread.

I reckon they search for days looking for any response ..

I bet this pisses them off no end,

After that, I just generally stay out of the threads of the know it alls.

[Binger]

Another Thank You for all your efforts Ryan. I haven't been on the "Barn" in a couple of weeks and I think I am glad I missed all the uproar. I have always felt this board was kinder and gentler than the HAMB. Generally it is always. There is always different points of views coming here too, From fine point judging to touring to speedsters and banger powered hot rods. A lot of time big the differences of opinion come from the persons goals for their cars. Much knowledge is to be gained from all the members here! I always listen more than I speak.

[mshmodela]

Originally Posted by msmaron

I think your over exaggerating paul, i have seen your posts as you know and your questions seem to always be answered in a polite and helpful way and YES many many of the knowledgable people are gone from the site and will not return.... sadly.

Good folks like Purdy had enough of pack of wolves.. He's not posted in almost 2 years. So there is no myth that folks who truly had decades of experience have gone silent...

[C26Pinelake]

Purdy is one of our true major losses! Hopefully the new manners will bring him back. Wayne

[Mike V. Florida]

The reason there are so few good writers is the fact that conveying an idea is not always easy to do "on paper".

Sometimes a blunt answer can be interpreted as being rude. I have found that a whole lot of technical people are just that, blunt. I think it is all the technical writings they read and write using just the minimal amount of words to get the idea across. I assume you contact those that are guilty and tell them exactly where they went wrong when you ban them. Like I said sometimes a blunt answer by a writer can be taken as a rude answer by the reader when it was never intended to be that way. I think (and I'm nobody here) a chance to edit the offending post might be a better first step.

[denis4x4]

I suspect that the Fordbarn would become a very boring site in the PC police limited threads to those that are technical in nature. Mike V is correct that it is difficult to put things of a technical nature into an understandable paragraph. I did some technical instruction writing on weapon systems and was required to keep it at a 6th grade level. The fewer the words, the easier to understand. There is a fine line between being a jerk and an asshole. I would think that the 'barners are more mature and can tell the difference.

[H. L. Chauvin]

I received several private emails some time ago, (as opposed to Forum Private Messages, (PM's) generated on this Forum), concerning the alleged Ford Barn gang attacks in progress.

Those allegedly attacked individuals were allegedly hurt and had already sadly left.

We can imagine that here within, it is virtually impossible to monitor outside, behind the scenes private emails.

And then, one way to look at this Model A Hobby is, what is the true value of being declared a 100% Model A Genius who is never wrong and always right?

With possession of such an Honorable Model A Diploma, none of us could land a $5.00 an hour job as a McDonald's kitchen helper employee working at the rear sink.

I too hope these gentlemen will return.

FWIW: I found early on that one can be successful & succeed far better in life if we sometimes act ignorant. LOL

[31 Model A]

Originally Posted by denis4x4

I suspect that the Fordbarn would become a very boring site in the PC police limited threads to those that are technical in nature. .

Sure hope not, I'm here sure, for some technical help so I know what and how to describe the aches and pains that come with an 85 year old gal names Sarah to her doctor Larry Shepard but also the comradery, jocularity and stories of old and bazar regarding Model A Fords.

[C26Pinelake]

Please Ryan, do not turn it into a Facebook where people write fictitious, make believe stories about their present and past girlfriends and affairs they never had. If it is not Model A it should be deleted. There is a couple here that live in a land of make believe of girlfriends, ex wives and romances that never existed. We honestly don't want to hear about it. Wayne

[Ryan]

Originally Posted by denis4x4

I suspect that the Fordbarn would become a very boring site in the PC police limited threads to those that are technical in nature. Mike V is correct that it is difficult to put things of a technical nature into an understandable paragraph. I did some technical instruction writing on weapon systems and was required to keep it at a 6th grade level. The fewer the words, the easier to understand. There is a fine line between being a jerk and an asshole. I would think that the 'barners are more mature and can tell the difference.

There is no fine line between being a decent person with respect for other people and being a jerk. I'm not gonna host jerks.

[Rex_A_Lott]

Is there a list of people who are banned? I see under some of the user names "banned", but the people are still here and posting.
Also, if people are banned, can they still be reached by PM, or can they just not post on the main board?

[RockHillWill]

Ryan, As a moderator on another non-car site, I am most appreciative of both your time, investment and courage. I hope I am not in danger here. Thank you!

[Mike V. Florida]

Originally Posted by Rex_A_Lott

Is there a list of people who are banned? I see under some of the user names "banned", but the people are still here and posting.
Also, if people are banned, can they still be reached by PM, or can they just not post on the main board?

If you click on the members name you will see if they can be contacted.

As for banned, this is from the software, "By default, banned users are placed in the “Banned Users” usergroup and inherit the permissions (or lack thereof) of that group. "

[redmodelt]

I think you will find that the people that have Banned under there names have not posted anything fresh it's just that some of their past post have not been removed. If you click on their name it does not show a way to contact them unless you already have their personal email stored on your computer.

[Rex_A_Lott]

Originally Posted by Mike V. Florida

If you click on the members name you will see if they can be contacted.

As for banned, this is from the software, "By default, banned users are placed in the “Banned Users” usergroup and inherit the permissions (or lack thereof) of that group. "

Originally Posted by redmodelt

I think you will find that the people that have Banned under there names have not posted anything fresh it's just that some of their past post have not been removed. If you click on their name it does not show a way to contact them unless you already have their personal email stored on your computer.

Thanks for the info.

[mshmodela]

So far, looks like folks are getting the message about be polite..

[WestCoast]

Ok guys, you got the message, play nice or Ryan will use the nuclear option, and I guess you all know what that is

[Ryan]

Originally Posted by mshmodela

So far, looks like folks are getting the message about be polite..

Looking at past stats, almost 98% of reported posts were posted by only 14 people. Think about that. That's nuts... So, I started by targeting those 14 people.

Many of them were banned outright and others I let slide but started to watch very carefully. This included looking at their post history... Soon, I noticed many of these guys started editing/deleting their past offensive posts. So, I have taken that function away for a while.

Essentially, I'm smoking out the people that don't respect the joint... and, it has worked really, really well.

The rest of you guys are AWESOME.

[31 Model A]

Originally Posted by Ryan

The rest of you guys are AWESOME.

I always knew you liked me !!!!

[Tom Wesenberg]

Originally Posted by 31 Model A

I always knew you liked me !!!!

Don't kid yourself.............it's only for the GRIT.

[old31]

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MMMMM, I didn't realize the report button was so valuable. It kind of gives you a sense of power.

[prpmmp]

Originally Posted by old31

MMMMM, I didn't realize the report button was so valuable. It kind of gives you a sense of power.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IeD7gpvgpY Pete

[old31]

Cool video, great musician.

[Ed]

Thanks Ryan. It is really unfortunate that you have to tell people to behave. This should be common sense. However, sometimes common sense is in short supply. I have stopped posting because of the rude behavior and attacks from a select few experts. Hopefully your 3 strike rule will put a stop to this problem. I am looking forward to seeing how this new rule will put a stop to this behavior.

[mshmodela]

So 98% by 14 users.. That does not surprise me, as they say about a bad apple...It's very simple, we all like our old cars, we all wish to be treated nice, so just treat others as you wish to be treated... I'm on a few gun forums and they do not have this issue, I guess folks even in cyberspace respect a person who packs heat.. Funny our cars get hot?

[Chippy Minton]

Originally Posted by Ryan

Looking at past stats, almost 98% of reported posts were posted by only 14 people. Think about that. That's nuts... So, I started by targeting those 14 people.

Many of them were banned outright and others I let slide but started to watch very carefully. This included looking at their post history... Soon, I noticed many of these guys started editing/deleting their past offensive posts. So, I have taken that function away for a while.

Essentially, I'm smoking out the people that don't respect the joint... and, it has worked really, really well.

The rest of you guys are AWESOME.

I'd wondered what those posts about the delete button were going on about. The posts where they edited everything but a character was more like something in a junior school than what you would expect to find on a car forum populated by people with a high average age.

[5window]

Originally Posted by Chippy Minton

I'd wondered what those posts about the delete button were going on about. The posts where they edited everything but a character was more like something in a junior school than what you would expect to find on a car forum populated by people with a high average age.

Why, Chippy, that's just some boys having fun. No need for bunching up your underclothes. Why I'm so elder that junior high's looking pretty good. Have a great day, hug some loved ones, do something nice for a stranger and wait for spring.

[Mike V. Florida]

Originally Posted by Ryan

Looking at past stats, almost 98% of reported posts were posted by only 14 people. Think about that. That's nuts... So, I started by targeting those 14 people.

Many of them were banned outright and others I let slide but started to watch very carefully. This included looking at their post history... Soon, I noticed many of these guys started editing/deleting their past offensive posts. So, I have taken that function away for a while.

Essentially, I'm smoking out the people that don't respect the joint... and, it has worked really, really well.

The rest of you guys are AWESOME.

At least they were reporting it and not posting anything derogatory. That was your first request a few years ago, if we found something we disagreed with, don't comment on it but rather report it so you or Cob could review and take actions as you saw fit.

Little at a time I guess, a little push here a little prod there and a lump of clay becomes something good looking and useful.

[Ryan]

Originally Posted by Mike V. Florida

At least they were reporting it and not posting anything derogatory. That was your first request a few years ago, if we found something we disagreed with, don't comment on it but rather report it so you or Cob could review and take actions as you saw fit.



Little at a time I guess, a little push here a little prod there and a lump of clay becomes something good looking and useful.

They weren't reporting anything. They were being assholes and getting reported. I think you read that wrong.

I still very much want folks to report.


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[31 Model A]

Originally Posted by Ryan

They weren't reporting anything. They were being assholes and getting reported. I think you read that wrong.

I still very much want folks to report.


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Sometimes Ryan, there are individuals that have taken care of their own problems in their own way all their lives. The idea of running to someone else to take care of some asshole is unacceptable. Case in point, the thread below, this asshole (my opinion) was gone and when he came back, he started right in on me, edging me, challenging me. I continued to ignore his asinine comments to a point and then I decided it was time to confront him again...the last time I did it through PM, that was a couple of years ago, when he came back or was allowed to come back a few months ago, he came back with vengeance and it was directed at me. He's gone again now and I hope it's for good, his comments was numerous and towards many posters, his arrogance, rudeness and down right ASSinine attitude became a pest to me. With me confronting him, in my own way, I was banned because of my comment towards him directly on this thread, IMO, the ban was worth it. I'll bet a pound to a penny, he was the one who reported me. If he was, good!!!!!! I hurt the arsehole's feelings, that was my intentions!!!! Mission accomplished.........

https://fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=209932

[Rex_A_Lott]

I think its a crying shame that a grown-ass man has to "report" to Ryan or anybody else that he got his little feelings hurt by what somebody said on a message board...but its not my sandbox, and I dont make the rules, I just have to try to play by them and try to remember that I cant say what I really think most of the time. There are some VERY smart people here, but apparently a bunch of whiners also.

[Chippy Minton]

Originally Posted by 5window

Why, Chippy, that's just some boys having fun. No need for bunching up your underclothes. Why I'm so elder that junior high's looking pretty good. Have a great day, hug some loved ones, do something nice for a stranger and wait for spring.

Thank God that I grew out of that level of humour decades ago! Sad.

[31 Model A]

Old Age....physically I can't stop it....mentally I can slow it down. Thank God I'm a Baby Boomer with a never get old attitude.

[Ryan]

Honestly, if you can get your feelings hurt on a forum about old Fords, either the forum or you is doing something wrong.

It's old cars man. It's a message board. If your honor is on the line in that context, there's an issue.

Point is, I don't care to serve anyone that takes this thing or themselves THAT seriously. Nothing personal at all... internet drama and name calling and... well that stuff just isn't my thing.


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[Bill's Auto Works]

If 98% were from 14 people, that says to me that there are a very large number of good people here on the Barn! I didn't check the stats but 14 is a microscopic percentage of the total number of members!

[PepeLoco]

Thank you Ryan. I stopped coming here over a year ago because of the crude and vindictive comments. Though I don't post, I tried to read every post to continue to learn.
Pepe
Austin, Texas

[Charlville]

Excellent

[GMCPASO]

Yes, let the swamp be cleaned up.

[joel rapose]

I am fairly new to the forum and the first thing I noticed that on the For Sale forum some people update their advertisements almost daily...so their advertisements are on the top almost every day..... I usually only read the first page...and see their stuff every day..sounds a bit unfair... same guys every day...must be pro's

[CarlG]

Originally Posted by Charlville

Excellent

R


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[Ryan]

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We've cleaned house a bit... and things seem much more civil to me.


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[Floats]

Ryan,
Thanks for a job well done.

[zzlegend]

Thanks Ryan. You have more patience than me. He was long over due in my opinion.

[chap52]

Isn't it sad that grown-ups need to be told to be polite.
Thanks Ryan for calling out those in need of correction.

[Ryan]

Originally Posted by chap52

Isn't it sad that grown-ups need to be told to be polite.
Thanks Ryan for calling out those in need of correction.

It's a tiny minority man... It really is...

[hotrod3132]

Thank you !!! I was a luker for a while then did join, lots of good information here. However never posted or ask any questions for fear of being scolded. Keep up the good work.

[SilverGhost]

Ryan, I'm very impressed with your approach, and I'm glad you advocate civilized behavior.
Greetings from switzerland

[31a]

Thank you!

[Brian T]

There is peace on the Barn, --- Thank you Ryan. Happy new year to all that make this site run.

[ModelABum]

My wise Grandfather's words came to mind.
Never miss an opportunity to keep your mouth shut!

[28Ca8149]

I have owned my 28 AR roadster for 63 years .As second owner This car is till like new .I just finished a 30 Fordor that I bought from a little old Lady in 1959 ,no rust but needed all new wood .I think Ford used 8 different kinds and mine got the soft wood. Without a site like this I would have never got it done .It will be a vary hi point car.now I have some other valuable cars but they don't get the same attention as the As The information that one can get from this site is Priceless .Thank's George

[jimalabam]

Ryan: Great news from you. What some of these offenders who are have good Ford knowledge, MUST remember or LEARN, "If you are smarter than everyone else, NEVER let them know it." Best regards and keep up your good work. Jim Langley...

[BILL WILLIAMSON]

Ryan,
Thanks for puttin' up with me!
Sad day, Saturday, our Club Treasurer & his Wife were in a horrible crash in their Tudor, He's out of the hospital, but with serious injuries & plate glass cuts, but SADLY, his Wife passed away Sunday.
Bill Williamson

[zzlegend]

Thanks Ryan for ousting another one. Infiltrated I believe. Nothing but negative post. Just one more to go.

[SHEC]

Originally Posted by Ryan

I don't know where to start... So, lets start here. Read that thread in its entirety and note the seemingly endless list of people that feel as though they are being sniped or harassed by other users.

Ironically, some of the people complaining on that thread are the same people that are causing issues. Generally speaking, it's a huge mess... and I'm to blame. I just haven't done a good enough job getting rid of users that are destructive to the community. Today, I'm hoping to get back on the right track.

So, I'm introducing a new rule or protocol for dealing with users that just can't manage to post politely. It's a typical three strike rule. Essentially, a user that posts without manners will be banned for one week. A second offense and they will be banned for a month. A third offense and they will be banned permanently. Automatic bans will also be used for users that are obviously trying to cause problems for either the forum or a specific user.

We will give no special consideration for users with large post counts or specialized Ford Knowledge or anything else. It's a black and white deal.

Be nice or don't post.

***

I need help however... If someone posts something derogatory towards you, don't respond (if you further instigate the problem, you could be banned as well) - instead, use the report button. Help us weed out the people that are being so disruptive. We really need the help fellas...

Oh... and fellas... opinions are fine. However, if you can't post your opinion without bagging on someone else's you need to keep your opinion to yourself. Drama simply isn't welcomed here guys.... under ANY circumstance.

***

This is a fluid deal too. I'm working to clean the joint up and my strategies might fluctuate, but the general message will not.

Thanks fellas... and sorry for all the trouble,

Ryan

Thank you sir for putting up with us and for providing good oversight. I believe we should go back and restore the standards of civility that the cars we are working with represented "back in the day".


Lets truly take a step back and think about what we are doing and saying before we just jump in the fray. It would serve us well as human beings and promoters of a simpler time and pace of life.


What say you?


Thanks -


Be well -


SHEC = Chris

[bigd1101]

Reminds me of an old bicycle site I'm on called the CABE. I restore old bikes and they had a thread called the Break Room. Unfortunately folks got into politics on it and it became quite personal and testy. They have since eliminated the thread and restored civility to the web site. I'm at a loss as to why discussing our passions could result in the same problem we had on the CABE? Being a jerk is not cool no matter what the subject is. Seems like manner these days is in short supply.......


Don

[30 Closed Cab PU]

Hey Ryan, and the members of the Barn - you all do a great Service to us, especially newbies to the Barn forum like myself. I just checked out HAMB reseaching something out, and could not believe it. 75 % of replies are attacking others, and mostly have nothing to do with, or very little to do with the original Poster's questions.


Your patience is really appreciated, having answered some questions many, many times in the past, while us newbies learn how to search the Barn.


So Thanks.

[Chiefguy]

Originally Posted by Ryan

In that regard, please know that my harsh words and mostly actions aren't aimed towards the civil crowd just here to learn about old Fords. They are aimed squarely at the former and soon to be former members who are incapable of posting on a forum without thumping their chest or otherwise acting a fool. My big fear with this whole deal is that I run off good members who think I might be targeting them in this effort.

If you've never posted crossly on this forum, you have absolutely nothing to worry about. That's a promise.

No offence taken here...Been on forum one day..lol

[woofa.express]

This morning I was unable to copy from word file and paste.
This enables me to prepare a story in advance and to me that is important.
What / why has something changed?

[jimalabam]

Ryan, THANKS for your good work. I am reminded of what my Mother taught me. "If you can't say something nice, say nothing at all"...

[stillwater]

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Originally Posted by jimalabam

Ryan, THANKS for your good work. I am reminded of what my Mother taught me. "If you can't say something nice, say nothing at all"...

Totally agree...an elder in my family said that in a different way, but your explanation is better suited here. Lol

[walkerlakeprinter]

This forum is the most helpful and civil one I have seen on the internet. I am on Facebook often, and see people attacked daily even for seemingly innocuous comments. I really appreciate good give and take without profanity! I may be a preacher's kid and grandson of a preacher, but I find most of today's discourse online and in the news to be uncouth! Thanks for Fordbarn!

[JEFFEREY]

That person was given his dismissal notifications early today... What's more, another was simply prohibited too... With any karma, this break down won't take me long.

[pbishop]

Ryan, YOU continue to do a 'great' job! It is not forgotten that YOU administer this wonderful site as a favor and courtesy extended to the rest of us – taking the time from your personal affairs too do so. It is the efforts by people like YOU that move us back toward the ‘Kinder and Gentler’ nation that we have been and have been called to be. THANK YOU RYAN!


Paul

[woofa.express]

good morning people. I am receiving email copies of my writing input to threads. Please tell me how I can stop this. Thankyou in anticipation, gary mexted.

[woofa.express]

Do please tell me how I can unsubscribe to the forum threads. I write and get the same back by email and wish to put this action to bed. thankyou, gary.

[hotrodrich]

Hello Bill, I'm very new here. I live in Clovis. I am planning to attend a club (Sierra Model A) meeting in November. Hope to meet you. Rich

[Aarongriffey]

I got roasted on the old site in 2015 when I asked about a problem I was having with the F1 l had been driving a month or two.
I still have not solved the problem or even improved on it after 20,000 miles but I found out that I was a poor driver and that Fords were poor cars and that I was/am kinda stupid.
I also figured out that some were posting answers without reading the post they were answering.
So I didn’t post again untill this month.
I don’t even remember my user name.

[Dick M]

Ryan,
I have had my A for 20 years. I have been on this forum for 10 years. I so appreciate most of the folks on Fordbarn. Many times some one answered my questions and helped me solve a problem. I have offered information to questions asked and hoped the answer helped them. It is really simple. Help when you can, learn when you can, and do not ever mount the high horse.

Thanks for all you do.

[Ron52]

damm u people are Human, I think I will stay here for quite a while...

[rocket1]

i'm logged in and getting pop up ads never happened before!

[Brian T]

Originally Posted by rocket1

i'm logged in and getting pop up ads never happened before!

Same here, just started today. Taken care of, Thanks Fordbarn.

[rickranger]

Great job to the Ford Barn team.

[JohnB15632]

i quit coming to this forum because of the rude comments that I received.

I may return because of your hard work.
Thank you,

[McMimmcs]

Originally Posted by JohnB15632

i quit coming to this forum because of the rude comments that I received.

I may return because of your hard work.
Thank you,

Ryan has always worked hard, nothing new !

[pabob2021]

"Good manners are just a way of showing other people that we have respect for them."

[MickyD]

Ever since I got on this site I look at all the good that is out there. I have received more help on various sites than I have in person. No matter the response I have to keep a positive attitude as there is always more help than not. Thanks for all that you do. And this is not trying to butter any one up.I have belonged to a lot of car sites.

[Rob Doe]

Ryan, I'm new here and read this thread a couple days back. This morning something hit me that is one of my favorite lessons in life. It's perfectly summed in a quote from Mark Twain:


"It ain't what you know for certain that gets ya in trouble. It's what ya know for certain that just ain't so!"


I'm enjoying the forum immensely and I hope this great quote brings a little humor into all this. I laugh every time I think of Mr. Twain's (Sam Clemen's) observation!

[Lefthander1930]

The wealth of knowledge on this site is incredible. A great site to research information & knowledge is outstanding. Keep it clean & helpful with good comments. This site starts off my day & a few cups of coffee. What a great way to start off the day. What a Great hobby & people. Thank you All.

[bbrocksr]

Originally Posted by Ryan

In that regard, please know that my harsh words and mostly actions aren't aimed towards the civil crowd just here to learn about old Fords. They are aimed squarely at the former and soon to be former members who are incapable of posting on a forum without thumping their chest or otherwise acting a fool. My big fear with this whole deal is that I run off good members who think I might be targeting them in this effort.

If you've never posted crossly on this forum, you have absolutely nothing to worry about. That's a promise.

Ryan , Opposing opinions are not allowed, Right ?
I posted my opinion on honing vs reaming very politely and it got deleted.
Bill

[sspencerc21@gmail.com]

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Good guidelines!!

[Tom A400]

Good call!

[wagoon]

Thanks for running the site. A lot of knowledge on here.