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Old 01-16-2021, 04:16 PM   #1
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Default Sealed beam foglights wanted.

Hi, I have a question.

I have two Per Lux 200T FOG LIGHTS with 12V bulbs. Are sealed beam lamps in 6 volts available for these foglights? If so, maybe someone can tell me where I could order this (from here in Germany ...)? The outside diameter of the light inserts is 140mm. I'm only looking for FOG LIGHTS!



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Old 01-16-2021, 06:00 PM   #2
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Default Re: Sealed beam foglights wanted.

Clear or yellow/amber color?
If the internet converted 140 mm to inches correctly for me (5.511 inches) that could be a # 4012 bulb. This also depends a bit on how and where you measured the bulb and fixture it goes into.

Scroll halfway down the page at this first link to the "Fog & Driving Sealed Beam 6-8 Volt Light Bulbs" section,
in the "5 1/2 Inch diameter" category.
https://www.taillightking.com/fog_Dr...ight-Bulbs.htm
They are a bit pricey on this page but I used it to get the part number, 4012.
"A" = Amber colored lens, no letter after the part number would be for a 'clear' lens

Another bulb industry size designation for the lamp is "PAR 46" (if the old size is measured correctly) with the "46" being the diameter of the bulb in 1/8th inch units, in case converting mm to inches wasn't already confusing enough. (PAR = parabolic aluminized reflector) You may have different / better internet search results using; 'par 46 fog lamp'.

Assuming this a good part number for you... you can search the internet for better prices or sellers closer to you.
A couple examples...
http://www.classicautobulbs.com/auto...bulb_amber.htm

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1940-50-s-C...4AAOSwTO9eUWCR

There are similar slightly smaller bulbs, with a different part number, 4015-A (PAR 44)
These are also shown in the "4 1/2 inch" 6 volt sealed beam category at the first link above.
Example...
https://www.chevsofthe40s.com/detail...v_5_Screw.html

A bulb and lamp supply store should have better prices on these than specialty and classic car suppliers, if the bulbs are available from their sources.
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Old 01-17-2021, 03:19 AM   #3
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I'm actually looking for clear lenses. I don't like the amber that much.

Measuring that is the problem with the matter. The headlight, where the lamp should go in, has an inner diameter of 144mm at the narrowest point. (Measured with a vernier caliper) My 12V headlight insert that I have here has an outer diameter of 140mm (Absolutely!)

This website ...

https://www.taillightking.com/fog_Dr...ight-Bulbs.htm

...added to my confusion! One speaks of 5 1/2 inches, and once of 5 3/4 inches.

When I look at THIS website ...

http://www.classicautobulbs.com/auto...bulb_amber.htm

...then again we are talking about 5 3/4 inches, and the description says diameter 146mm! But I only have 144mm! Is there a tolerance or not? Where are the calculated 2mm that the lamp insert would be too big? All things that do not help to unravel.

I didn't know the size designation "PAR 46" before. Thanks for the explanation. Then I can look in that direction too.

Another question: "Passing" is written on many lenses. Mine says "Fog". What is the difference between these lamps? Are the fog lamps particularly wide?

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