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Old 04-24-2020, 11:23 PM   #1
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Default Reducing Fumes and Noise

In an effort to improve my 1930 Tudor I have been implementing hidden changes that make it better without changing the way it looks. The next change I would like to make is to reduce the noise and the smells of the car.
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Here is what I am thinking...wondering if anyone has tried these from Snyder's or whatever vendor you use.
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To reduce the fumes A-6764 Oil Breather Kit and to put a little more of a barrier between the engine and the passenger compartment I would like to install a Fire Wall Insulator A-18572-B. I was thinking the Fire Wall Insulator would help hold out fumes and reduce the noise also.....
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Has anyone installed either of these and how well did they work....also, does anyone have any other ideas that I should be looking at??
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Old 04-24-2020, 11:44 PM   #2
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Yes, I have both in my '30 Town Sedan and they both help. Also see the recent thread on insulation, some good suggestions. https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=279908

I believe the breather kit/road draft tube is also a good thing for the engine as it helps draw some of the BAD stuff from the crankcase and keeps the engine compartment cleaner.

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Old 04-25-2020, 12:43 AM   #3
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I have a fumaze on my cars, an old aftermarket device that works great but they are getting hard to find and pricy. I have the firewall insulator in one of my cars and it works good but a bear to install.

In my opinion, the absolutely best device for reduction of noise and vibration is an over drive. You don't have to drive faster with an overdrive. The reduction of engine rpm makes all the difference.

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Old 04-25-2020, 07:04 AM   #4
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Like Y-Blockhead, I also have a '30 Town Sedan, and also have installed both on my car. The insulation was a a chore to install with the gas tank in but I finally got it. I like it as it cuts down on the heat and the engine noise. The breather was on my car when I bought it 27 years ago. I took it off and put on a cap, but went back to the breather last year. I don't know if it changes anything on the car but it's a good conversation piece.
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I do not understand trying to get rid of the noise and smell. This is just part of the complete experience of driving a Model A Ford.


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Old 04-25-2020, 06:21 PM   #6
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I do not understand trying to get rid of the noise and smell. This is just part of the complete experience of driving a Model A Ford.


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I was thinking yesterday when I opened the door of my survivor 30 tudor about how it smelled the same as when I climbed up in my father's 31 coupe nearly 60 years ago. I don't know what makes up that smell, maybe all the things the guys are talking about but it is a part of these old cars for sure. Strange what you remember.
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Old 04-25-2020, 06:35 PM   #7
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I do not understand trying to get rid of the noise and smell. This is just part of the complete experience of driving a Model A Ford.


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Well to keep my co-pilot happy and healthy I installed a breather and some jute insulation under the carpet... The jute insulation more for heat than noise.
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Old 04-26-2020, 10:46 AM   #8
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I put a piece of soft sponge rubber over the shift tower, under the floor board. This seals any fumes that might wander in from below. The piece I used was 2" thick and about 8" square.
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I run a Fumaze , firewall insulation and insulation under the floor mats in our roadster . I also use engine pans that helps direct heat and fumes out of the engine compartment , under the car .
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Old 04-26-2020, 04:37 PM   #10
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I installed the breather kit, firewall insulation, cowl, floor insulation last year. Big difference in heat sound and exhaust/blowby fumes. I am in the process of doing the rear of my car now.
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Old 04-26-2020, 06:32 PM   #11
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Why not install a PCV valve on the passenger side into the valve cover. Vacuum from the intake. If done right, it will be almost unnoticeable.
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Old 04-27-2020, 09:05 AM   #12
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I use a fumaze, with a preformed 1" 45 degree pvc elbow This puts the fumes out just below the wish bone. Painted black it blends in nicely.

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What is the item on the spark rod & the cover on the starter switch?
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Fumes inside the vehicle is not a good thing especially if they are exhaust related. Excessive fumes coming from the oil fill pipe is a sign of engine wear. In my view it is much safer to take care of fixing the problems rather than mask them. If you prefer to mask them then drive with the windows open.
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Anybody know of a Fumaze type setup made for a Model B? As you may know, the Model B oil fill tube is much larger in diameter than the Model A.
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Safety first. I hate fumes inside a vehicle. Carbon monoxide is no joke. In the garage I turn off all the lights. Place a trouble light on the inside floor and look at the firewall with the hood open and patch/plug everything I see then crawl under to see what light emanates from the floorboards and......patch/plug everything I see.
Am I over cautious, yes but that's just me!
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Safety first. I hate fumes inside a vehicle. Carbon monoxide is no joke. In the garage I turn off all the lights. Place a trouble light on the inside floor and look at the firewall with the hood open and patch/plug everything I see then crawl under to see what light emanates from the floorboards and......patch/plug everything I see.
Am I over cautious, yes but that's just me!
In a Model A there are places that you can not see that can leak the BAD STUFF into your cab, like behind the kick panels where the cowl light wires come thru.
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What is the item on the spark rod & the cover on the starter switch?
That is a "Sparky Start" when spark lever is lifted to full retard it engages the starter. Foot starter can still be used. I had a knee injury and that slight twist to press the starter foot button was quite painful, "Sparky Start " solved the problem. Here is a link, scroll down to the 5th item

https://redquailearlyfordparts.com/
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Anybody know of a Fumaze type setup made for a Model B? As you may know, the Model B oil fill tube is much larger in diameter than the Model A.
Remember the bottom of the Model B breather is the same diameter as the Model A so you can use one from a Model A.

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Real original Fumaze rarely pop up on Ebay. I had an email alert for a year before I bought one. If you want one, buy it when you see it!
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