A model N, T, A, auction that would have been fun to attend

[J Franklin]

Over in an Hour or so. Even a '32 & '34

https://bid.wheelerauctions.com/auctions/1464919/lots

[ModelA29]

Only 3 minutes left when I saw it. The steal was the 56 Lincoln MKII for 3,300. If I'd seen this early enough to register I'd own it. It was America's most expensive car when first introduced.
Costing a then-astronomical $10,000 plus, the cars were exclusive when new and are even more exclusive now. Merely 2,550 were built for 1956 and 444 for 1957.

[Gary Karr]

Yes, a '56 Continental Mark II with factory air for $3,300 is indeed a major bargain. I already have two of them but at that price, I would not have passed it up.

[trulyvintage]

The pre-bidding is closed.
Those who pre-registered can still bid.




Jim

[WTSHNN]

Anyone know what was so special about the Model T chassis that brought $18k? Assuming it was an '09?

-Tim

[ModelA29]

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Originally Posted by Gary Karr

Yes, a '56 Continental Mark II with factory air for $3,300 is indeed a major bargain. I already have two of them but at that price, I would not have passed it up.

Would you like to have only 1?

[ronn]

Anyone know what was so special about the Model T chassis that brought $18k? Assuming it was an '09?


never understood the hierarchy of owning a low digit T. It seems the lower the digits, the higher the price. Of course the 2 pedals are ultra rare. Funny how the N R S cars never commanded the same type of premium, being so similar and low production.


#9894 is the engine # very early

[mdsbob]

Originally Posted by ModelA29

Only 3 minutes left when I saw it. The steal was the 56 Lincoln MKII for 3,300. If I'd seen this early enough to register I'd own it. It was America's most expensive car when first introduced.
Costing a then-astronomical $10,000 plus, the cars were exclusive when new and are even more exclusive now. Merely 2,550 were built for 1956 and 444 for 1957.

Ended auction shows it brought $16,500...

[alexiskai]

The 180A went for less than I thought. Looked pretty restorable if you didn't mind the paint job.

[WTSHNN]

Originally Posted by ronn

Anyone know what was so special about the Model T chassis that brought $18k? Assuming it was an '09?


never understood the hierarchy of owning a low digit T. It seems the lower the digits, the higher the price. Of course the 2 pedals are ultra rare. Funny how the N R S cars never commanded the same type of premium, being so similar and low production.


#9894 is the engine # very early

9894 was a more complete T with the remains of a body (Lot 16) and sold for 19k. There was another Model T Chassis without a body (Lot 74) that sold for 18k. Seemed odd that an '09 with a fairly complete body would sell for 1k more than a chassis.

-Tim

[ronn]

The 180A went for less than I thought.


there was one on ebay that ran and drove for 17k, about 3 yrs ago. It too needed refurbishment.
also the A 400 that sold for 22k was a nice running car out in Wash state, about 2 yrs ago, so they are out there......... dont know if people even factor in rarity much anymore.


I bought a 68 slant a few months back and the price was quite low.

[BRENT in 10-uh-C]

Originally Posted by WTSHNN

Anyone know what was so special about the Model T chassis that brought $18k? Assuming it was an '09?

-Tim

Originally Posted by ronn

Anyone know what was so special about the Model T chassis that brought $18k? Assuming it was an '09?


never understood the hierarchy of owning a low digit T. It seems the lower the digits, the higher the price. Of course the 2 pedals are ultra rare. Funny how the N R S cars never commanded the same type of premium, being so similar and low production.

This is a case where you needed to inspect the cars closely. The Touring that brought $19k had an open-valve engine but incorrect hogshead, a later 12 rivet rear axle, incorrect headlamps, incorrect coil box, incorrect carburetor, incorrect steering column, etc. I'm sure I could find more if we were looking at it in person. The pictures are a little blurry, but even the block may have been a counterfeit. As far as the body, both the chassis and the Touring body would need to be replaced (-likely by a Ray Wells body) and the sheetmetal would best be replaced too. Therefore, basically what both sold for was chassis'. It appeared the chassis-only sales lot had the correct 6 rivet, the correct open-valve engine, etc., so it may have been purchased to make one correct car.

As far as what makes them so valuable, an 09/10 are extremely hard to find in any condition, and as such they bring strong money. I have been collecting 09/10 stuff for years now and probably have over $45k in just a running gear and a few key body parts. The reason I like the early stuff is because it is unique.

[Gene F]

There were one or two years that the carbs were brass, and those things redone go for a small fortune.

T's are nice to look at, and they changed the world. However, they are not near as useful as an A-Model (today).

[trulyvintage]

Originally Posted by ronn

Anyone know what was so special about the Model T chassis that brought $18k? Assuming it was an '09?

never understood the hierarchy of owning a low digit T. It seems the lower the digits, the higher the price. Of course the 2 pedals are ultra rare. Funny how the N R S cars never commanded the same type of premium, being so similar and low production.

#9894 is the engine # very early

No one can ascertain what that chassis was
comprised of over the internet - only if an
experienced and qualified person were to
inspect it in person would the answer be known.

It would be interesting to know if the high
bidder inspected it in person or had someone
they trusted inspect it in person.


Jim

[BRENT in 10-uh-C]

Originally Posted by Gene F

There were one or two years that the carbs were brass, and those things redone go for a small fortune.

T's are nice to look at, and they changed the world. However, they are not near as useful as an A-Model (today).

Gene, ironically I put WAY more miles on my Model-Ts than I do in my Model-As traveling. There are MANY hobbyists that tour mega-distances in their Ts each year than what you hear about in As, so I would say that a T is likely just as useful as an A.

Below are a few pics beginning with my 26 Hack that we took on a 450 mile progressive tour earlier this year. The picture of my '15 is when we toured the BR Parkway traveling 45 MPH. We covered about 340 miles on that day. Several of us think nothing of driving our Ts 45-50 MPH which is what most Model-A drivers want to drive. Below are some pics of guys that drive their Ts more miles than many here do in their modern cars. They are out in Kansas this week on tour, and two drove their Ts from Tennessee to Kansas by way of Richmond IN. Last year they drove out west for a full month covering 3,000+ miles. Dean Yoder will drive his T pulling a camper, and has driven his to Key West FL and all the way to the N. Pole. Randall Strickland here regularly drives his Ts from NC to Ohio. George Akin generally drives his Ts on 3k - 5k trips each year. Many others do too. Based on what I know about Model-Aers and Ters, I think the Model-T is just as useful (-and reliable) as what the Model-A is when the owner wants to drive.

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[Jeff/Illinois]

I don't own a Model T heck I don't even know how to drive one, but from a lot of what I have read, they are really taking off with the young folks!

They love the cars.

Speaking of which I just watched Laurel and Hardy last night, 'Two Tars', they really tear up the Model T's on their episodes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8z7bekuL1M

[mhsprecher]

That sale had some interesting stuff in it. It seemed to bring pretty fair money.

It's interesting. We have a 15 y.o. Model T owner who just joined our club. There is a coterie of younger folks who are into 20's and 30's cars. It's great to see. We have a couple of younger guys in our Model A club who are a great additions to our club.

[ronn]

Great looking hack Brent.

looks like loads of fun!

[David in San Antonio]

I learned to drive a T in a Touring Car a few months ago. I loved the mechanical feel. However my long legs barely fit and the pedals were so close to each other it was hard to push just one at a time. Getting in and out was also difficult, even though I used the passenger door (which seemed even tighter than on my A roadster) and slid across the seat to get behind the wheel. The next day I discovered a big bruise over my hip bone where I had evidently collided with the door latch either getting in or out. Maybe some of this would become easier with time.
The rear seat was roomy and comfortable, practically a limo by comparison.

[rotorwrench]

A Lincoln Mark II was mentioned early on. These cars were very nice but a lot of parts are getting very difficult to source. Engine, rear axle, and transmission parts are getting Expensive. Restoring them is expensive even if DIY. Folks are always wanting to know about engine and transmission swaps.