48 coupe- valve guide removal tool use

[Bolts]

Been reading all the info about removing the stubborn valve guides. My car uses the mushroom valves. Not going to save the valve or guide.
I think I've got the procedure down, but I have a question about the little tool that looks like the picture below.
Is it used to drive the guide down to enable the horse shoe clip to be removed?
Assuming the valve spring retainer and spring are off, and the valve is lifted up, is the little tool inserted under the head of the valve so tapping the head of the valve will move the guide down enough to get the clip off?

[JSeery]

Well, I can post the photo for you, but no idea what the tool is, I have never seen it before.

[RalphM]

Don't think I've ever seen one of those, my valve guide tool has a tip similar to yours, but is longer and has a curve in the middle to go around the valve head.
But if you are not saving them, the easiest way is to cut the springs, cut the stem off the valve, then pull out the valves and knock the guide down the hole.

[Bolts]

Thanks for the picture.
I don't want to cut anything if I can avoid it because I'm just fixing the valves in one cylinder and don't want any metal getting in the engine.
I'm hoping I can use Vanpelts Puller tool to get the valve out after the horse shoe clip is removed.

[RalphM]

This is the guide removal tool I have.

[Bolts]

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Originally Posted by RalphM

This is the guide removal tool I have.

So, you raise the valve and insert this tool to tap down the guide?

[JSeery]

I believe VanPelt Rents/Loans the valve tools out, including the tool to knock the guides down. I would check with him.

[flatheadmurre]

The idee is to raise the valve with a valve bar insert the guide tool knock down the guide to take the guide retainer away.
Then pry the valve assembly back up with the valve bar.
I have a bunch of different valve tools including a hydramek and when the guides are really stuck cutting and drilling is the way to go.

[Bolts]

Sorry to belabor all this.

[Bob C]

Bratton's sells that tool, says it's a copy or KR Wilson tool.
http://www.brattons.com/product.asp?...=any&PT_ID=all

Bob

[Bolts]

Originally Posted by Bob C

Bratton's sells that tool, says it's a copy or KR Wilson tool.
http://www.brattons.com/product.asp?...=any&PT_ID=all

Bob

Thanks for the link.
Going back over all this stuff about stuck valve guides, I think I will just cut the valve stem and spring with my grinder and figure out how to keep the debris out of the engine. Heck with all the removing the horseshoe clips. Pound out the guides and forget it.

[flatheadmurre]

If you drill the heads of and then drive the guides down getting the horseshoeclip off you should be able to get some rustoil in there and drive it down letting the spring push it back up a few times until you can get it out.
If you are going to cut it in the valley use a boltcutter.
Im stripping down a 59 right now and are about to cut it up only saving the cam and adjustable lifters.

[flatheadmurre]

I went down to the shop and took out a couple of valves in 2 different ways.
First pics is the big ass boltcutter and valvepuller way you loose the valve and the spring.
Second version is drilling out the head with a 3/8 drill pipewrench to break it off avoiding prying against the seat.
KD valveclamp to pull the guide.
You only loose the valve this vay and can reuse the rest.
Both ways you have to use a hollow tool or piece of pipe to drive the guide down getting the horsehoeclip out..

[Mike in AZ]

you will need a tool/bar to pull down the guide to insert the new clip when you put it back together...or do you have the bar already as shown in top row, third to right in post above....good luck...Mike

[flatjack9]

The tool shown in the 6th photo by flatheadmurre is used to pound the retainer clip out. Ruins the clip, but can save a lot of work.

[Bolts]

Very informative. Thank you all. A friend has a pry bar I can use Mike.
Is the slide hammer needed to get the valve out after cutting the valve stem with bolt cutters because it leaves the stem deformed and hard to get through the guide?

[flatheadmurre]

Prying the valve out will work just fine, be careful not to damage the seat or block.

[Bolts]

Originally Posted by flatheadmurre

I went down to the shop and took out a couple of valves in 2 different ways.
First pics is the big ass boltcutter and valvepuller way you loose the valve and the spring.
Second version is drilling out the head with a 3/8 drill pipewrench to break it off avoiding prying against the seat.
KD valveclamp to pull the guide.
You only loose the valve this vay and can reuse the rest.
Both ways you have to use a hollow tool or piece of pipe to drive the guide down getting the horsehoeclip out..

I have a question about that big clamp in the two bottom pictures if you don't mind.
How does that work? The cup bears on the valve head, not the block, right?
Then, does it push the spring up tight against the guide and then move the guide up the valve stem and out of the bore?

[40cpe]

The "C" shaped cup rests on the block, around the valve. The valve moves up inside the cup when the guide us pulled.