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Standing Elk · 06-29-2021, 08:25 AM

Getting ready to replace the front spring perch bushings after having my spring re tempered and re arched. Can you usually just drive the bushings out or do you need to be split them with a hack saw blade? I will find out when I go to do it but was just curious. Thanks

chrs1961815 · 06-29-2021, 08:32 AM

I was able to drive mine out but others may differ. If they don't come out somewhat easily don't hammer the hell out of the spring perch because you might damage it.

Will N · 06-29-2021, 08:53 AM

Use a nut, bolt and washers to draw the bushing into the spring eye.

nkaminar · 06-29-2021, 11:37 AM

I did what Will did to install my bushings. They can be removed the same way by using a spacer like a section of pipe for the bushing to be pushed into.

Big hammer · 06-29-2021, 11:58 AM

It depends on how worn the bushings are, if you have meat left to drive them out. I think the diameter is to small for a hack saw blade, you could roll the edges to the center and drive it out. With the spring off and a vise use a long socket the same size as the bushing and then squeeze the bushing into a long large socket, you will have to have helping hands

BRENT in 10-uh-C · 06-29-2021, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Big hammer

It depends on how worn the bushings are, if you have meat left to drive them out. I think the diameter is to small for a hack saw blade, you could roll the edges to the center and drive it out. With the spring off and a vise use a long socket the same size as the bushing and then squeeze the bushing into a long large socket, you will have to have helping hands

Yes, most bushings are being replaced because they are severely worn. For us, splitting them is much faster and easier.

shew01 · 06-29-2021, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BRENT in 10-uh-C

Yes, most bushings are being replaced because they are severely worn. For us, splitting them is much faster and easier.

I’m curious. How do you split them?

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Werner · 06-29-2021, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by shew01

I’m curious. How do you split them?

We call this a "fretsaw", a very small hacksaw.

[email protected] · 06-29-2021, 04:58 PM

An air hammer pointed chisel and bushing drivers. In or Out. Easy Peezee!

shew01 · 06-29-2021, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Werner

We call this a "fretsaw", a very small hacksaw.

Thanks. That’s the first I’ve heard of a fretsaw.

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Pete · 06-29-2021, 07:53 PM

Use Delrin bushings for replacements as have been discussed many times here and on the early V8 forum, and you will never have to replace them again.

BRENT in 10-uh-C · 06-30-2021, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by shew01

I’m curious. How do you split them?

An air-powered jig saw.

https://www.harborfreight.com/high-s...saw-91753.html

The Master Cylinder · 06-30-2021, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete

Use Delrin bushings for replacements as have been discussed many times here and on the early V8 forum, and you will never have to replace them again.

Hmmm, In the off road world, not so much.

The opinion of some reviewers:

"Delrin is the more well known-name for polyoxymethylene, and it’s used for low-budget parts. This material is a hard, stiff, and smooth plastic—which is OK, but it is prone to wear. They need replaced often and if you ride hard, you’ll find that they’re not cut out for you at all. If you’ve got Delrin, you should upgrade the first chance you get."

katy · 06-30-2021, 10:02 AM

I would try a cape chisel: https://www.protoindustrial.com/en/i...Cape-Chisels/#

Chris Haynes · 06-30-2021, 04:15 PM

I use the bushing driver that the same vendors that sell the bushings sell.
https://snydersantiqueauto.com/Produ...earchByKeyword

Vic in E-TN · 06-30-2021, 04:38 PM

Master Cylinder:
What material is the upgrade?
Where do you get it?

Vic

Pete · 06-30-2021, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by The Master Cylinder

Hmmm, In the off road world, not so much.

The opinion of some reviewers:

"Delrin is the more well known-name for polyoxymethylene, and it’s used for low-budget parts. This material is a hard, stiff, and smooth plastic—which is OK, but it is prone to wear. They need replaced often and if you ride hard, you’ll find that they’re not cut out for you at all. If you’ve got Delrin, you should upgrade the first chance you get."

I should have said "moly filled Delrin". I assumed it was known because it has been hashed over so many times on here.
If they are kept greased as ANY bearing material should be, I haven't seen any I did wear out and some are 30 years old.
Oh, by the way, you won't think it is low budget when you find out the price of the stuff....lol

Standing Elk · 06-30-2021, 08:14 PM

Thanks everyone, I got them out fairly easily. I had a transfer punch that was the right size to use to drive them out. I put a little heat on one side of the housing and they came out without much trouble. Thanks again.

Flathead · 07-02-2021, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Haynes

I use the bushing driver that the same vendors that sell the bushings sell.
https://snydersantiqueauto.com/Produ...earchByKeyword

This tool is great, takes them out and puts them in. Works on T's as well.

redmodelt · 07-02-2021, 11:33 PM

I have never had a problem using a standard hack saw blade in them or T's. T fronts are the same ID, A's are just a little longer.

06-29-2021, 08:25 AM	#1
Standing Elk Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: St. Maries, Idaho Posts: 162	Front spring perch bushings Getting ready to replace the front spring perch bushings after having my spring re tempered and re arched. Can you usually just drive the bushings out or do you need to be split them with a hack saw blade? I will find out when I go to do it but was just curious. Thanks

06-29-2021, 08:32 AM	#2
chrs1961815 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Spring Grove, Illinois Posts: 1,371	Re: Front spring perch bushings I was able to drive mine out but others may differ. If they don't come out somewhat easily don't hammer the hell out of the spring perch because you might damage it. __________________ "The more things change, the more they stay the same."

06-29-2021, 08:53 AM	#3
Will N Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,100	Re: Front spring perch bushings Use a nut, bolt and washers to draw the bushing into the spring eye.

06-29-2021, 11:37 AM	#4
nkaminar Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Western North Carolina Posts: 3,897	Re: Front spring perch bushings I did what Will did to install my bushings. They can be removed the same way by using a spacer like a section of pipe for the bushing to be pushed into. __________________ A is for apple, green as the sky. Step on the gas, for tomorrow I die. Forget the brakes, they really don't work. The clutch always sticks, and starts with a jerk. My car grows red hair, and flies through the air. Driving's a blast, a blast from the past.

06-29-2021, 11:58 AM	#5
Big hammer Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Land of Lincoln Posts: 3,131	Re: Front spring perch bushings It depends on how worn the bushings are, if you have meat left to drive them out. I think the diameter is to small for a hack saw blade, you could roll the edges to the center and drive it out. With the spring off and a vise use a long socket the same size as the bushing and then squeeze the bushing into a long large socket, you will have to have helping hands __________________ Don't force it with a little hammer tap, tap, tap get a bigger hammer tap done

06-29-2021, 04:58 PM	#9
[email protected] Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Illinois Posts: 730	Re: Front spring perch bushings An air hammer pointed chisel and bushing drivers. In or Out. Easy Peezee!

06-29-2021, 07:53 PM	#11
Pete Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wa. Posts: 5,408	Re: Front spring perch bushings Use Delrin bushings for replacements as have been discussed many times here and on the early V8 forum, and you will never have to replace them again.

06-30-2021, 10:02 AM	#14
katy Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Red Deer, Alberta Posts: 5,043	Re: Front spring perch bushings I would try a cape chisel: https://www.protoindustrial.com/en/i...Cape-Chisels/# __________________ If you don't hear a rumor by 10 AM, start one!. Got my education out behind the barn!

06-30-2021, 04:15 PM	#15
Chris Haynes Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Camarillo, CA and Pine Grove, CA Posts: 2,832	Re: Front spring perch bushings I use the bushing driver that the same vendors that sell the bushings sell. https://snydersantiqueauto.com/Produ...earchByKeyword __________________ 1921 Runabout 1930 Tudor Early 1930 AA Speed costs money. How fast do you want to go?

06-30-2021, 04:38 PM	#16
Vic in E-TN Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Maryville, TN Posts: 491	Re: Front spring perch bushings Master Cylinder: What material is the upgrade? Where do you get it? Vic

06-30-2021, 08:14 PM	#18
Standing Elk Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: St. Maries, Idaho Posts: 162	Re: Front spring perch bushings Thanks everyone, I got them out fairly easily. I had a transfer punch that was the right size to use to drive them out. I put a little heat on one side of the housing and they came out without much trouble. Thanks again.

07-02-2021, 11:33 PM	#20
redmodelt Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Portland OR Posts: 6,340	Re: Front spring perch bushings I have never had a problem using a standard hack saw blade in them or T's. T fronts are the same ID, A's are just a little longer. __________________ I know the voices aren't real but damn they have some good ideas!