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05-07-2021, 05:17 PM | #1 |
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dropping the pan
I'd like opinions on what is involved here. There is very little room between the pan and the bolt heads to fit a 1/2" socket. I have a thin wall socket but still had problems. What do you folks do ? It is worse on the rear of the engine . Always willing to see other opinions.
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05-07-2021, 05:25 PM | #2 |
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Re: dropping the pan
Getting at those bolts is tight at the front and the back. My cars are drivers so I cut a slot in the heads of the bolts and use a square shanked screw driver. You clearly have hex heads so just keep at it. They'll all give up the fight in the end.
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05-07-2021, 05:46 PM | #3 |
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Re: dropping the pan
Pete,
Be easy on yourself, jack up the front end and turn the steering to one side, locked. That will move the tie rod away from the front of the oil pan. Yes a thin wall deep socket will reach, but when re-assembling only use a 1/4 drive ratchet so you don't find out how easy it is to snap a bolt in an difficult spot.......jb |
05-07-2021, 05:47 PM | #4 |
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Re: dropping the pan
Try using a 1/4" drive socket set, it works well on the rear pan bolts too.
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05-07-2021, 05:48 PM | #5 |
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Be sure to turn your wheels all the way to one side or the other. This gets your tie rod out of the way. A quarter inch socket set works good.
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05-07-2021, 05:57 PM | #6 |
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05-07-2021, 07:05 PM | #8 |
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Get some threaded stock the same thread size as the pan bolts. cut four pieces about two inches long and put a nut on them. Remove two bolts on each side and screw the four studs in place. Now when you take the other bolts out you will be able to let the pan drop onto the studs when the gasket breaks loose. They also come in handy when re-installing.
Remove the dripper tray to clean out the bottom of the pan. Use a long wooden hammer handle (a baseball bat works better). Put it down in the hole for the oil pump, Put your foot on the top of the pan and give a sharp thrust of the handle. Use your foot to reinstall the dipper tray. Make sure you have it in place in the slots correctly. When you re-install the pan glue the gasket to the top of the pan, do not put sealer on the top of the gasket, use axle grease. This way it will be easier to remove next time and you won't have to scrape pieces of gasket off the engine pan rails. Tom Endy |
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05-07-2021, 07:16 PM | #10 |
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I use a 1/4” socket with a six inch extension and pan guides.
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05-08-2021, 12:25 AM | #12 |
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I've never used guides to put the sump back on. I hold the A frame with one hand so that my forearm is under the sump. Once I lift it high enough to get my arm under it, it is easy to lift it into place by bending my wrist. I have a screw already set up in a socket on the battery powered (very low powered) rattle gun. One goes in VERY easily. The next is no more difficult, then you're pretty much finished.
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05-08-2021, 10:58 AM | #14 |
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Re: dropping the pan
Wow, thanks for all the suggestions. My issue is clearance between the bolt head and the pan flange. I did turn the wheels for extra space. I could not find a 1/4" drive, thin wall deep socket but I do have a regular deep socket and just up the street is a machine shop. I will have them thin it out till it fits. Pan came down easily and tray came out when I dropped the pan on a layer of cardboard. Thanks again for all the suggestions, I've made notes fopr use later. Bill
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05-08-2021, 01:10 PM | #15 |
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Cheap foreign made sockets are ideal to grind down for special applications like this and should be strong enough for pan bolts. Good use for an odd or homeless socket.
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05-08-2021, 01:54 PM | #16 |
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05-08-2021, 03:42 PM | #17 |
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Back about 1965 I had a fellow come up to me and asked about my coupe. he asked if I had problems with removing the pan bolts. He then said that he had a special speed wrench made for this. the next day he came by where I worked and handed it to me. A great gift and used many times. there must be more of these out there.
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05-09-2021, 09:27 AM | #19 |
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I just R&Rd the pan on my A yesterday, used a regular 6 point, 3/8" drive, S-K socket, no interference problems.
FWIW, that socket has been in use for over 60 years, so it's probably a little sloppy.
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05-10-2021, 08:03 AM | #20 |
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Re: dropping the pan
I just use a wobble socket. Its easy enough to grind the wall thinner if needed. After awhile the tool box gets full of stuff that has been specially 'adjusted'.
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