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05-13-2016, 07:21 AM | #1 |
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Ford produced bodies only
In reading "The Ford Model A As Henry Built it" by DeAngles, I take it that the only "Ford" produced Model A passenger body styles were the following:
Standard and Deluxe Phaeton Standard and Deluxe Roadster Standard and Deluxe Coupe Special Coupe Sport Coupe Business Coupe Standard and Deluxe Tudor Sedan Taxi Cab Town Car Is this correct? All the rest were by Briggs and/or Murray. Thanks. Pluck |
05-13-2016, 07:36 AM | #2 |
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If my conversations with Bob Johnson were correct Briggs built the Town Car. Also Budd made the tudor sedan in 28-29. Rod
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Not exactly correct. Coupes and pickup truck cabs were also produced by Budd. Baker Raulang made wood bodies.
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Pluck,
Did not some of 1930 and 31 Coupes have Briggs body tags on them? Dave |
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And some of the SW 4 door Sedans were done by Ford I believe.
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Re: Ford produced bodies only
Budd made the 1928-1929 closed cab truck cabs
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05-13-2016, 04:42 PM | #9 |
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Town Cars were not made by Ford
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05-13-2016, 05:22 PM | #10 |
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The Deluxe Phaeton was made by Briggs.
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05-13-2016, 11:11 PM | #11 |
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Here is what we have so far from above answers:
Standard and Deluxe Phaeton: Briggs, Standard and Deluxe Roadster Standard and Deluxe Coupe: Budd, Briggs, Special Coupe: Budd Sport Coupe: Budd Business Coupe: Budd Standard and Deluxe Tudor Sedan: 28-29 Budd, Taxi Cab Town Car: Briggs |
05-14-2016, 03:34 AM | #12 |
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The 1931 slant windshield sedans were either Briggs or Murray. To the best of my knowledge Ford did not make the slant windshield.
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05-14-2016, 06:43 AM | #13 |
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Vince, didn't this get discussed at a JSC meeting that Ford did the stamping only but not the assembly on the slant windshield Fordor?
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Vince I am guessing this to be about a year or so ago. You were there taking dictation on your laptop, -and Sturm was giving the revisions for the Upholstery section when the verbiage was being clarified. He made a comment about the S/W all being outsourced when I questioned about the Ford-produced body, and the consensus after a 15 minute discussion was there were Ford-stamped S/W sheetmetal that was assembled by the smaller Briggs manufacturing company. I believe the comment was that Ford did stamp their logo on some of the parts that Briggs finished assembling which is why those were found to have the D-nuts. They asked me specifically if I have any Ford materials that would substantiate that Ford indeed did manufacture the S/W body in-house. I did not, --and everyone said they had never seen anything (prints, ER, etc.) that would indicate they did. Your thoughts regarding fewer Briggs makes an interesting thought that maybe because Ford's production was slowing during this time, he could utilize his stamping equipment to save some costs and then outsource the assembly to Briggs. |
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I do not know on that one...seems there is no one who knows the answer to that or or my original post and provide a definitive answer if there is one. If there is...they are ignoring the issue which is highly likely! Pluck |
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From Post #22
"Actually I have never seen or heard of Ford identification stamped on the parts, however the Briggs logo is sometimes found on 1931 slant windshield fordor parts which also have solid D nuts, not the cage D nuts (found on Murray)." For what it is worth.... Picture is close-up of Briggs stamp on the rear subrail between the bolt holes for the rear spare tire carrier on '31 Slant TS.
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Where did you come up with Special and Sport coupes being made by Budd? Also, I believe all std phaetons were made by Ford.
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I agree with you, I meant one thing yet wrote another. I meant that Briggs was a smaller company and likely that Ford did the stamping as a cost savings measure. Thanks to you, and to Marco for the PM. We all three are in agreement. |
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05-16-2016, 09:20 AM | #20 |
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Pluck,
As Vince said the Briggs body tags did appear on the 1930/1 Standard and Deluxe Coupes. Dennis Smith in Texas has his list of body tag prefixes on both the MARC and MAFCA web sites I think. Regards, Dave |
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