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Old 10-18-2020, 07:35 AM   #1
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Default How to identify the year without the Vin??

I recently purchased a four-door and was told it was a 31 however reading on forums it said that model Aís stopped having wooden rails on the floor 29 and went to steal 30-31. Please say it isnít so I just registered it and got a title stating it was a 31 as thatís what I was told. Not sure where the vin# 124360524 came from ??
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Old 10-18-2020, 07:55 AM   #2
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Should be A-24360524
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Old 10-18-2020, 07:57 AM   #3
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Start here:

https://www.mafca.com/whatyear.html#...of%20the%20car.

Pics would help...
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Old 10-18-2020, 10:12 AM   #4
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Engine number should agree with the year -

https://www.mafca.com/data_eng_production.html

Your VIN may be a state assigned one, but they usually start with the state abbreviation.
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Old 10-18-2020, 10:21 AM   #5
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Engine number should agree with the year -

https://www.mafca.com/data_eng_production.html

Your VIN may be a state assigned one, but they usually start with the state abbreviation.
But often does not! In 90 years many engines got changed!
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Old 10-18-2020, 11:12 AM   #6
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The Vin number does not make any sense as it hastoo many numbers to decipher what year the motor was made?, I guess my question is did they still use wooden rails on the frame on 30-31s
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Old 10-18-2020, 11:41 AM   #7
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Fordors had a lot of wood until the Slant Window came out.. I'm not sure what you mean by "rails". Can you post some pictures of the car? As far as I know all Fordors from the cowl back were the same or similar (Murrey vs. Briggs). Exception the Slant Window.

It would be easier to tell you what you have if we could see the car.


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Old 10-18-2020, 11:59 AM   #8
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There is tremendous expertise on this site [ not me ] that can give a quick and educated opinion on the basis of a picture. Please post a photograph sooner rather than later !
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Old 10-18-2020, 12:27 PM   #9
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The Vin number does not make any sense as it hastoo many numbers to decipher what year the motor was made?, I guess my question is did they still use wooden rails on the frame on 30-31s
Easy to do...go to this site to determine when the engine was stamped:http://plucks329s.org/studies/studie...tudies_ep.html

A lot of times the engines are restamped thus taking away the correct time period they were actually stamped.

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Old 10-18-2020, 12:30 PM   #10
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Ford introduced the "metal framed" (slant windshield) Fordor in early 1931. The "wood framed" Fordors were built from 1928 through early 1931.

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Old 10-20-2020, 01:59 PM   #11
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Thanks again for all your help. So it is possible that I have a early 31 wood frame.
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Old 10-20-2020, 03:34 PM   #12
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If you lost th 12 from the vin you would have a 1931 engine number
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Old 10-20-2020, 11:04 PM   #13
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" So it is possible that I have a early 31 wood frame."

Yes, it's possible. All of the straight windshield fordors, 1928 through early 1931, used a lot of wood framing. All of the slant windshield fordors, which are 1931 only, were mostly steel framed. If you have a straight windshield with an exterior visor, it is a wood-framed body; and yes, it could be an early 1931.

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Old 10-20-2020, 11:28 PM   #14
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we still have not been able to provide an opinion based on a photograph. Please post a photograph.
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Old 10-22-2020, 07:30 AM   #15
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we still have not been able to provide an opinion based on a photograph. Please post a photograph.
For some reason my phone will not allow me to upload a picture to your website
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Old 10-22-2020, 12:36 PM   #16
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so upload it to your email and drag it over...............
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Old 10-24-2020, 03:44 PM   #17
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The frame , front accuatators ,and tourque tube have subtle diffs.
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Old 10-25-2020, 10:02 AM   #18
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If the frame/engine serial number was actually A4360524 (eliminating the 1 & 2 at the beginning), that would be consistent with an engine produced in February of 1931. The slant windshield types started showing up in April or May of 1931 and they can be easily distinguished from the early 1931 models which were basically the continuation of the 1930 models which used a lot of wood, including the subrails. The slant windshield models were an all new concept for Ford in 1931.
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