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Old 07-16-2020, 09:26 PM   #1
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Old 07-16-2020, 10:01 PM   #2
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was this recent?
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was this recent?

Yes, a week or two ago I believe. A friend in Ukraine sent me a link with these pics from a Ukrainian news website!
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Looking at the damage, did the BMW clip the A's rear driver's side fender causing the A to flip on it's side?

BMW is at fault of course but some type of extra lighting on the back of A, as many here often suggest, may have helped avoid this.
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The story and photos are from the New Kingstown Fire Co. (Pennsylvania) Facebook page at this link or click on the below photo:
https://www.facebook.com/NKFC33/phot...78987995484842



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Old 07-16-2020, 11:10 PM   #6
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The story and photos are from the New Kingstown Fire Co. (Pennsylvania) Facebook page at this link or click on the below photo:
https://www.facebook.com/NKFC33/phot...78987995484842

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No, I got the the story and photos from here:

https://apostrophe.ua/news/world/202...im-foto/203542

If you had seen this before on Facebook why didn't you post it here earlier?
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BMW tried passing on the double line ?

What a shame. Hope he is OK.
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No, I got the the story and photos from here:

https://apostrophe.ua/news/world/202...im-foto/203542

If you had seen this before on Facebook why didn't you post it here earlier?
It appears that the Ukrainian news web site copied the story and photos from the Facebook page of the New Kingstown (Penn.) Fire Department! That is funny.

Just goes to show that when you put something on FB, it is out there to be used, abused, borrowed, stolen by anyone in the world without your control. That is one reason I have deleted my Facebook account after removing all material from it.

Does anyone know if the Model A did roll on it's side? It looks like it impacted against something in the front, and that buckled the frame/body.

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That is such a shame. With so many Amish buggies in the area it seems that people driving should be able to negotiate a slower moving vehicle a bit safer!
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My experience ...BMW drivers think that they are "special" and thus have road priority!!!

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Does anyone know if the Model A did roll on it's side? It looks like it impacted against something in the front, and that buckled the frame/body.


Sure doesn't look like it, not much damage on the wood of the body. All things considered it looks like the A took it well. I hope the driver makes a speedy recovery.



From the damage all I can think is that the BMW was coming the other way and veered into his lane, over corrected and ended up in the ditch. Cell phone probably had something to do with it.
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All part of the deal,you drive them they will get hit by something..bugs,stones or other cars. Today there are many people on the road who dont care a bit about an old car,they only care that you are in their way.

A stock model a has no tools for defense in modern traffic conditions.Acceleration too slow,braking not efficient enough,lighting poor.you end up relying on the other drivers tolerance for your shortcomings.

In the picture do you see the young woman on the phone through the drivers door window? that's what you are up against..
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This Russian website says the car is a Ford T:

https://pikabu.ru/story/sovremennyiy...orda_t_7584206
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Old 07-17-2020, 08:49 AM   #14
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My experience ...BMW drivers think that they are "special" and thus have road priority!!!

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I wonder why that is?

Brings to mind the old joke;

What is the difference between a porcupine and a BMW ?

The porcupine has the pricks on the outside and the BMW has the pricks on the inside.
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Photo 1 shows a cross street coming in from the left ...

OR maybe there is a curve there, can not tell.

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Why is the A always assumed to be in the right?
Maybe he pulled out in front of the BMW!
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Why is the A always assumed to be in the right?
Maybe he pulled out in front of the BMW!
That maybe true, but I will go with the odds on this one!!!

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That is such a shame. With so many Amish buggies in the area it seems that people driving should be able to negotiate a slower moving vehicle a bit safer!
They also hit mennonite and amish buggies. People have too many distractions while driving and just aren't paying attention.
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I'll bet the guys in the BMW Club are blaming the Model "A".
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I'll bet the guys in the BMW Club are blaming the Model "A".

Probably so. Lol


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Does anyone know how the driver of the model A faired out?
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Why is the A always assumed to be in the right?
Maybe he pulled out in front of the BMW!
I agree. If the BMW had hit the Model A I think the Model A would have landed in the ditch.

I think the Model A drifted into the path of the BMW and forced it into the ditch because the Model A sustained more damage to the left front fender and tire, and less damage to the left rear fender. Typical behavior when you see a car veer into your lane is to steer to the right (at least in the US where we drive on the right hand side of the road).

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In the US you drive on the wrong side of the road not the right.

The crumple zones on the A look good. The swing out windscreen enhances safety and the four wheel brakes obviously save lives as the salesman said.
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I agree. If the BMW had hit the Model A I think the Model A would have landed in the ditch.

I think the Model A drifted into the path of the BMW and forced it into the ditch because the Model A sustained more damage to the left front fender and tire, and less damage to the left rear fender. Typical behavior when you see a car veer into your lane is to steer to the right (at least in the US where we drive on the right hand side of the road).

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Automatically steering the right in a LHD country makes sense. We would go left. I have heard of people from a RHD country instinctively veering left to avoid trouble, just like they do at home but ending up in even more trouble. Swapping sides takes a lot of concentration not only when you start on the other side of the road but when you get home after almost getting used to it, you have to concentrate again. (you never completely get used to it)
Because everything there is @$$ backwards, I am not going make a guess at who did what.
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Thank you Jim/GA for expressing my thoughts re FB--I can do without it too!!
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I know the feeling . It was strawberry season and I had bought some from the local farm outlet plus some thick cream . I drove to my buddy Brian and sat in his back garden and had strawberries and cream . We heard a loud bang then a knock on the front door . An elderly gentleman informs me he has just hit my 1930 68B cabriolet . My car was parked on the street half on the road and half on the grass verge .He was driving a 3 ton Ford truck and had hit my car on the left rear so hard it had torn his right front tyre clean off the rim .He demolished the left rear fender tore up the running board and braces and damaged the front fender and door .Left rear wheel buckled and the axle bent .I was sincerely very unpleased . His excuse was he did not see me because the setting sun was in his eye ,he only had one eye would you believe . He was moving the truck for his son who was a builder . He admitted full responsibility and my car was surveyed by his insurance company and after a lot of haggling I accepted equiv $ 17000 and kept the car . So with a heavy heart I repaired the car ,the door which is wood framed was very difficult and still not quite right but as good as it will ever be . The problem is you never look at the car in the same light, prior to the accident it was a solid nice driver but it has been spoilt for me now somehow .At least no one was injured but it did give me a nasty bout of very high blood pressure !!!

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I got my 30 coupe 9 years ago. One of the 1st things I noticed was that there is almost no one on the road today that knows what hand signals are! The only ones who realize what you are doing is bikers. Most people driving cars have no idea why your arm is straight out the window or straight up. They would go by you and waive back! I only drove my coupe 2-3 times and decided to install turn signals. The final straw is when I was waiting to turn left and the car behind me started to pass me. The fact that there was a car coming towards us evidently didn’t matter to them, only that I was stopped in the road. I still don’t drive it as much as I’d like, probably because of people driving without thinking. Take Care Everyone!
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In the US you drive on the wrong side of the road not the right.

The crumple zones on the A look good. The swing out windscreen enhances safety and the four wheel brakes obviously save lives as the salesman said.
Sorry, I should have said: “ . . .in the U.S., where we drive on the correct side!“

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Our toilets are a completely different design. We can't waste as much water as yours use. They don't swirl.
Either way, they are like a politician - full of crap!
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Sorry, I should have said: “ . . .in the U.S., where we drive on the correct side!“

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I've alway told people over there that we sit on the right side of the car and rive on the correct side of the road. We then reach for another beer!
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The "correct" side of the car to drive on is a consequence of which side of the road you drive on. However, the LOGICAL side of the car to drive on (and by default the LOGICAL side of the road to drive on) is the left side of the car (right side of the road). The reason is that 90% of the worlds population is right handed and therefore it only makes sense to have the shifter on the drivers right. JMO.
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I got my 30 coupe 9 years ago. One of the 1st things I noticed was that there is almost no one on the road today that knows what hand signals are! The only ones who realize what you are doing is bikers. Most people driving cars have no idea why your arm is straight out the window or straight up. They would go by you and waive back! I only drove my coupe 2-3 times and decided to install turn signals. The final straw is when I was waiting to turn left and the car behind me started to pass me. The fact that there was a car coming towards us evidently didn’t matter to them, only that I was stopped in the road. I still don’t drive it as much as I’d like, probably because of people driving without thinking. Take Care Everyone!

First use of flashing turn signals was Buick in 1938. Written driver tests haven't asked to define arm signals for years. Actually been driving my cars more then ever this year. While I do have turn signals on my CCPU. I also have 12v LED tail lights and a third brake light.
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First use of flashing turn signals was Buick in 1938. Written driver tests haven't asked to define arm signals for years. Actually been driving my cars more then ever this year. While I do have turn signals on my CCPU. I also have 12v LED tail lights and a third brake light.
They most certainly DO in California. You also need to demonstrate hand signals to the inspector before taking your driving test. My son just took his test(s) last year.

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One of the 1st things I noticed was that there is almost no one on the road today that knows what hand signals are! The only ones who realize what you are doing is bikers. Most people driving cars have no idea why your arm is straight out the window or straight up. They would go by you and waive back!
My son and his buddies get a kick out of people when riding in my Model A and the other drivers not knowing what hand signals are. (Yes they wave back). They all just learned about hand signals in driving school and have not "forgotten" them yet, I suppose.
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I feel for the guy I was in a bad accident In my roadster when a car hit us, that was almost thirty years ago and I always think about it. Took me four years to put it back together.

My wife won't ride in our model a she does not feel safe in it and for good reason.
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I’ll drink to that!

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