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Old 01-12-2018, 12:11 PM   #1
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what kind of a bell housing do I need to do this pics of the transmission
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Old 01-12-2018, 12:18 PM   #2
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never done it, but i'm sure folks are using a bell off the front of a truck 4spd. there was even a guy making the adaptor for the torque tube i believe. you'll have to ask mr google, he knows every thing
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Old 01-12-2018, 12:22 PM   #3
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Old 01-12-2018, 01:59 PM   #4
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I think Ol Ron has done that, search his posts.
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Old 01-12-2018, 03:35 PM   #5
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Old 01-12-2018, 08:26 PM   #6
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Model Engineering makes an adapter fora Ford 4 speed top loader trans which I believe is the same config as the 3 + 1 O/D trans you have. I have one for the 4 speed and its high quality.
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Old 01-12-2018, 08:49 PM   #7
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that what I was looking for thanks
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Old 01-12-2018, 10:09 PM   #8
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I used the bell off the front of a flathead Ford 4 speed and made a simple flat aluminum plate to that same RTS transmission. It works just fine with the overdrive and the synchromesh first gear. Did this to at least a half dozen flathead engines.
Don't know how to put the pictures on this site, but can send them to an email address.
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Old 01-12-2018, 10:16 PM   #9
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I can post them for you if you like. jseery@ymail.com
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Old 01-12-2018, 10:20 PM   #10
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Could you send pics to epierson@charter.net. I am interested in that application. Thanks
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Old 01-12-2018, 10:22 PM   #11
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I can post them to I sent you a pm thanks
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Old 01-12-2018, 10:23 PM   #12
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All kind of help!
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Old 01-12-2018, 10:34 PM   #13
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here is a pics from modelengineeringco





thank jay for the pics but I could not post them
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Old 01-12-2018, 10:34 PM   #14
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I can post them to I sent you a pm thanks
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Please post the pictures that I just sent you. I'm not very good with computer stuff.
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Old 01-12-2018, 10:40 PM   #15
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I sent them to jseery I could not do anything with them for some reason
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Old 01-12-2018, 10:58 PM   #16
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Ok, headed home.
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Old 01-13-2018, 03:18 AM   #17
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Ford 3+1 overdrive [ 4 speed ] conversion to retain closed drive.
I will have this conversion kit on display at the Pate swap in April together with all the other products I manufacture.
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Old 01-13-2018, 09:27 AM   #18
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Yes, I did this to an 8BA in my 47 with a spicer 44A rear,. really works like a dream. I used a stock stamped steel bell housing and welded on some tabes after boting out the regester to the same size as the tran,. another way to do this id with a Hogs head adapter for the 59. I realize most prople dont have the machinery to do this, but if you know sombody with a mill, it's pretty easy.
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Old 01-13-2018, 09:35 AM   #19
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Here are the photos Jay was wanting posted. They are of two different transmission bolt patterns, but the concept is the same for both. This is the approach I use for T5 adapters using a "Hogshead" for the bellhousing part.

www.jalopyjournal.net www.jalopyjournal.net" This is what I did.www.jalopyjournal.net I use the exact same transmission that you have in your picture.www.jalopyjournal.net It's simple.www.jalopyjournal.net www.jalopyjournal.netThere is nothing to it."
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One of the first steps is to determine the input shaft length which determines the thickness of the adapter plate.

Note: Sorry it took so long!!! My wife had surgery yesterday and spent most of my time at the hospital. Running a little behind.
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Old 01-13-2018, 09:50 AM   #20
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hope your wife is doing good
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