The Ford Barn

johnny · 11-13-2016, 08:42 PM

a friend has this 37, 4 door convertible sedan which he believes some had a window up from the front seat back rest ,so the rear seat passenger's had extra protection from the wind with the top down .He thinks President FDR.had such a car having the middle window .He said he had checked with Ford US. they claim there records for that year was lost in a fire . might anyone have any information, for or against, he would really like to find a window. john

johnny · 11-14-2016, 07:09 PM

bump

TonyM · 11-14-2016, 08:30 PM

FDR had several Ford cars outfitted with hand controls so he could drive around his estate. He had a 1936 Ford Phaeton, a 1938 Ford Phaeton and I think he also had a 1939 Ford Convertible Sedan. None of these cars, which are well documented, were equipped as a "Dual Cowl" phaeton or equipped with a second windshield.

Additionally, Ford Motor Company did not produce phaetons with dual windshields during the 1930s. A quick internet search will bring up info and photos of FDR's Fords. Very easy to find images of these cars.

johnny · 11-14-2016, 09:02 PM

THANKS tONYWILL PASS THE INFOR.ON. John.

Vic Piano · 11-15-2016, 10:19 AM

It is possible that there could have been an after-market rear passenger compartment windshield available, or one could have been installed that came from another car...???

38coop · 11-15-2016, 10:19 AM

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I saw a 36 Ford Deluxe Phaeton with the dual windshield at a local car show this past weekend. It is a beautiful car. Someone said it was a former FDR car. It is going to be auctioned in January. Go to ftlauderdaleauction.com , then to lot#521, to see pictures of the car.

Kurt in NJ · 11-15-2016, 10:41 AM

I have tried to remember where I saw it in a catalogue , I think it was restoration speciality or restoration supply --- not the one selling weatherstrip , but I haven't seen them at Hershey the past few years. They sold parts for making trunks and stuff suited for 20s--30s cars

Jason in TX · 11-15-2016, 11:17 AM

I have seen those windshields for sale on ebay in the past. There were after market ones made for the larger cars of the day. It's not impossible to think that someone could have installed that. If I had a 4 door convertible, I might have even installed one because it's a display of a neat accessory.

Jason in TX · 11-15-2016, 11:19 AM

Here is the link to the car that 38coop referenced:

http://ftlauderdaleauction.com/site/...y.php?ID=59778

fourfords · 11-15-2016, 12:22 PM

FROM POST #3: "Additionally, Ford Motor Company did not produce phaetons with dual windshields during the 1930s".

That's not entirely true. In 2003 at the Concourse 'D Elegance at Pebble Beach, I saw a 1930 Ford Dual Cowl Phaeton. May not have been a mass manufactured car, but FORD produced at least one.

Jason in TX · 11-15-2016, 12:36 PM

Fourfords - That was Edsel Ford's personal car, custom built for him.

fourfords · 11-15-2016, 01:05 PM

Thank you for the photo Jason in TX!

TonyM · 11-15-2016, 03:09 PM

Here are some photos of FDR's Fords. No second windshield on these cars. Extremely doubtful that the car that 38coop saw at the local auto show is an FDR car.

I stand by my statement: Ford Motor Company did not offer Dual Cowl or Dual Windshield Phaetons during the 1930s.

CHuDWah · 11-15-2016, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TonyM

Here are some photos of FDR's Fords. No second windshield on these cars. Extremely doubtful that the car that 38coop saw at the local auto show is an FDR car.

I stand by my statement: Ford Motor Company did not offer Dual Cowl or Dual Windshield Phaetons during the 1930s.

The 38 is on display at Roosevelt's Little White House Historic Site in Warm Springs GA. There are tales of him zipping around the GA back roads in it, much to the chagrin of the Secret Service.

https://www.nps.gov/nr/travel/presid...ite_house.html

I first saw it there when I was a child MANY years ago - probably where I got bitten by the old car bug.

johnny · 11-15-2016, 07:59 PM

Thanks for the load of information and pictures of the dual cowl windshields will pass each on to the owner he will be very pleased. John.

11-13-2016, 08:42 PM	#1
johnny Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: London On, Can. Posts: 377	37 type 740 convertible sedan a friend has this 37, 4 door convertible sedan which he believes some had a window up from the front seat back rest ,so the rear seat passenger's had extra protection from the wind with the top down .He thinks President FDR.had such a car having the middle window .He said he had checked with Ford US. they claim there records for that year was lost in a fire . might anyone have any information, for or against, he would really like to find a window. john

11-14-2016, 07:09 PM	#2
johnny Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: London On, Can. Posts: 377	Re: 37 type 740 convertible sedan bump

11-14-2016, 09:02 PM	#4
johnny Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: London On, Can. Posts: 377	Re: 37 type 740 convertible sedan THANKS tONYWILL PASS THE INFOR.ON. John.

11-15-2016, 10:19 AM	#6
38coop Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Cocoa Florida Posts: 180	Re: 37 type 740 convertible sedan Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) I saw a 36 Ford Deluxe Phaeton with the dual windshield at a local car show this past weekend. It is a beautiful car. Someone said it was a former FDR car. It is going to be auctioned in January. Go to ftlauderdaleauction.com , then to lot#521, to see pictures of the car.

11-15-2016, 10:41 AM	#7
Kurt in NJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: on the Littlefield Posts: 6,159	Re: 37 type 740 convertible sedan I have tried to remember where I saw it in a catalogue , I think it was restoration speciality or restoration supply --- not the one selling weatherstrip , but I haven't seen them at Hershey the past few years. They sold parts for making trunks and stuff suited for 20s--30s cars

11-14-2016, 08:30 PM	#3
TonyM Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: West Hammond, Illinois Posts: 2,787	Re: 37 type 740 convertible sedan FDR had several Ford cars outfitted with hand controls so he could drive around his estate. He had a 1936 Ford Phaeton, a 1938 Ford Phaeton and I think he also had a 1939 Ford Convertible Sedan. None of these cars, which are well documented, were equipped as a "Dual Cowl" phaeton or equipped with a second windshield. Additionally, Ford Motor Company did not produce phaetons with dual windshields during the 1930s. A quick internet search will bring up info and photos of FDR's Fords. Very easy to find images of these cars. Last edited by TonyM; 11-14-2016 at 08:36 PM.

11-15-2016, 10:19 AM	#5
Vic Piano Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Odessa, FL Posts: 7,611	Re: 37 type 740 convertible sedan It is possible that there could have been an after-market rear passenger compartment windshield available, or one could have been installed that came from another car...??? __________________ Imagination is more important than knowledge.

11-15-2016, 11:17 AM	#8
Jason in TX Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: ⓉⒺXⒶⓈ Posts: 2,047	Re: 37 type 740 convertible sedan I have seen those windshields for sale on ebay in the past. There were after market ones made for the larger cars of the day. It's not impossible to think that someone could have installed that. If I had a 4 door convertible, I might have even installed one because it's a display of a neat accessory. __________________ -------------- Drive it like you know how to fix it! DMAFC / OILERS CC-MC

11-15-2016, 11:19 AM	#9
Jason in TX Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: ⓉⒺXⒶⓈ Posts: 2,047	Re: 37 type 740 convertible sedan Here is the link to the car that 38coop referenced: http://ftlauderdaleauction.com/site/...y.php?ID=59778 __________________ -------------- Drive it like you know how to fix it! DMAFC / OILERS CC-MC

11-15-2016, 12:22 PM	#10
fourfords Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lake Elsinore, CA. Posts: 414	Re: 37 type 740 convertible sedan FROM POST #3: "Additionally, Ford Motor Company did not produce phaetons with dual windshields during the 1930s". That's not entirely true. In 2003 at the Concourse 'D Elegance at Pebble Beach, I saw a 1930 Ford Dual Cowl Phaeton. May not have been a mass manufactured car, but FORD produced at least one.

11-15-2016, 12:36 PM	#11
Jason in TX Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: ⓉⒺXⒶⓈ Posts: 2,047	Re: 37 type 740 convertible sedan Fourfords - That was Edsel Ford's personal car, custom built for him. __________________ -------------- Drive it like you know how to fix it! DMAFC / OILERS CC-MC

11-15-2016, 01:05 PM	#12
fourfords Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Lake Elsinore, CA. Posts: 414	Re: 37 type 740 convertible sedan Thank you for the photo Jason in TX!

11-15-2016, 07:59 PM	#15
johnny Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: London On, Can. Posts: 377	Re: 37 type 740 convertible sedan Thanks for the load of information and pictures of the dual cowl windshields will pass each on to the owner he will be very pleased. John.