Using Parking Lights For Signal Lights

[ryanheacox]

Curious to hear peoples opinions on using the parking light socket for a turn signal. I don't have any turn signals currently and with the amount I want to drive this car I think I'll be inviting an accident if I don't add them.



I really don't like the look of add-on turn signals so I was thinking of taking the 21cp stop light bulbs and dipping them in amber light bulb paint and using them in the parking light sockets. I think 21cp should be bright enough but if not I can always go to the 32cp bulb the vendors sell. What does everyone else think?

[fuzes45]

Have Parking lights that were added by previous owner, Replaced all bulbs with LED,


A lot brighter, some LED ones have optional colors. Stop and running lights brighter.


No mods to sockets. Bob

[DBrer]

I use the cowl lights for turn signal lights. I agree that turn signals might save you from an accident, but also being courteous to other drivers so they are aware of your intensions. I also have two tail lights.

[saxman657]

Mine was rigged with parking lights external from the headlight (headlights are sealed beam) and these parking lights also serve as turn signals and emergency blinkers. Appears to be wired into the brake light wire before hitting the brake light switch.

[wmws]

I had turn signals wired into the parking light bulb in the head lite. That worked fine until I went to LED bulbs so I can run with my head lites on in the daytime. Now you can't see them with the bright LEDs on. So I am going to go for the small turn signals in the bumper. I don't much like the looks either but better safe etc.

[marrowe]

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I use LEDs in the cowl lights that function as a normal white sidelight and change to amber for indicators. They're the perfect combination of safety/functionality while not requiring any unsightly extra lights. I assume there is a supplier of these in the US

https://www.classiccarleds.co.uk/col...r-combined-led

[Tom Endy]

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[Patrick L.]

I like the park lites as turns. I'm not sure what CP they are, its been too long.
I also use the cowl too.
They are both incandescent.

The rears are LED and once installed couldn't find any flasher that worked. Increased the CP of the park and cowl lites and now a 535 thermal flasher has worked just fine for about the past 10 years. A few yeas ago I belted/strapped a a third lite to the spare tire.

The rears are BRIGHT, the fronts are good enough.

[eagle]

One thing is for sure. Using the hand/arm signal method does not work in this day and age! No one recognizes them anymore. I used license plate brackets and mounted amber beehive lights to the fender/headlight bar. Has a retro look and they are plenty bright. I added the turn function to the tail lights as well. I thought about the parking lights but I'd be surprised if they would be very visible, especially at night with the headlights on. However, I did not try them.

[Synchro909]

FWIW, flashing stop lights are illegal here and turn signals are amber, front and back.

[David R.]

I had thought about the parking light for signals too but figured it would not be visible with headlights on. I don’t really like the little rectangle ones in the bumper either, looks too modern I think. Mine is a AA so wouldn’t be right with cowl lights. I remember having to roll windows up and down in winter to give hand signals with my first truck, (‘52 Ford).

[Big hammer]

Turn signals in the headlights, sounds like some new cars today that the headlight turns off when the turn signals come on ! Surly don't know how that works but someone here could tell us how to do it !

[nick c]

I too don't like the add on front blinkers so I used the parking lites and bought amber bulbs, there work for me, 12v alternator on 29 AA.
carry on

[Herb Concord Ca]

I have turn signals on both my Slant T/S and 31 roadster P/U. Both use cowl lights for turn signal in the front. When do we use parking lights these days? Both use LED lights in the rear. 3 years ago I won one of the third brake light bars that mount in the back window that sure does work great, would highly recommend adding one of those as well.

[Y-Blockhead]

Anyone remember '60s VW and Porsche with turn signals in the headlight bucket? Seemed to work OK back then.

I use amber LEDs in my parking lights. very bright!

[CarlG]

Originally Posted by marrowe

I use LEDs in the cowl lights that function as a normal white sidelight and change to amber for indicators. They're the perfect combination of safety/functionality while not requiring any unsightly extra lights. I assume there is a supplier of these in the US

https://www.classiccarleds.co.uk/col...r-combined-led

I use my cowl lights as running lights and turn signals using the same dual color bulbs as shown above. I couldn’t find the bulbs in the US, so I bought them from the UK. I also have LED tail / signal lights from United Pacific and a 3rd brake light which is LED also.

[Hitman]

Originally Posted by Y-Blockhead

[FONT="Comic Sans MS"][SIZE="3"][COLOR="DarkGreen"]Anyone remember '60s VW and Porsche with turn signals in the headlight bucket? Seemed to work OK back then.

Old VW's and Porsches never had turn signals in the headlight assembly. Those are the parking lights. They turn off when the headlight is on.

[Y-Blockhead]

Originally Posted by Hitman

Old VW's and Porsches never had turn signals in the headlight assembly. Those are the parking lights. They turn off when the headlight is on.

You know what? You're right! Brain Phart on my part. The turn signal was on TOP of the front fender. I just remembered seeing a bulb in there!

[ryanheacox]

After reading through the responses I feel pretty confident that amber bulbs in the parking light socket will work well. I have a standard Fordor so I don't have cowl lights as an option.

I also only have a single tail light so I wouldn't be able to use that for signals and I'm not adding a second one. If I can find a set for a good price I'm planning to use an old set of Arrow signal lights on the rear, I like the period correct look.

[redmodelt]

As you asked; I am firm in my OP that parking lights are not where people look to see turn signals. Add into that, there is a lot of car between the parking lights and front of Model A and may not even be visible over the hood from the side. They should be at the front of the car at a height where people expect to see them and should be stand alone not in headlights. It is bad enough on modern cars that have an amber lens right next to headlight which when are on, over power the turn signals same with having them in the headlights.

I was behind a UPS truck that had turn signals/brake lights way up in back, I almost did not see them till last minute. They were in the site line for a truck driving behind but not standard passenger car. That brought it home to me in forming my OP.

Other thing, has anyone looked into them being even being legal in the parking lights?

[TerryH]

I’ve had cowl light turn signals, and dual LED taillights for 14 years in my A, and am very happy with both. The cowl lights, to me, are very noticeable, so a good solution for those that have them. Regarding taillights, I would not drive my A without dual lights and LED’s in today’s traffic. Unless you’re showing your car, the single taillight is simply not adequate today.

[Hitman]

Originally Posted by redmodelt

As you asked; I am firm in my OP that parking lights are not where people look to see turn signals. Add into that, there is a lot of car between the parking lights and front of Model A and may not even be visible over the hood from the side. They should be at the front of the car at a height where people expect to see them and should be stand alone not in headlights. It is bad enough on modern cars that have an amber lens right next to headlight which when are on, over power the turn signals same with having them in the headlights.

Other thing, has anyone looked into them being even being legal in the parking lights?

This is correct. They are too high when mounted in the headlights or cowl lights. Both locations will also be drowned out when the headlights are on making any amber bulbs barely visible.

Most new modern cars have daytime running lights, and a few even have turn signals built into the headlights (high end German cars). You'll notice the DRL's become the turn signal, or if mounted in the headlights the DRL turns off in the one headlights and defaults to the amber turn signal. Modern cars also have reflectors specifically designed to the turn signals in all situations for the purpose of turn signal indication.

Your goal is to be noticed. If you're going to the effort, you might as well do it right.

[David R.]

Here is another thought, period looking fog lights on bumper wired as turn signals?

[ryanheacox]

Originally Posted by David R.

Here is another thought, period looking fog lights on bumper wired as turn signals?

That would be my fallback if I find the bulbs in the headlights don't cut it.



Like I said, I would plan to test out the 21cp brake light bulb and if that doesn't cut it, the 32cp bulb. I imagine that turning a second bulb on that's the same power as the headlight bulb will be noticeable to oncoming drivers but that is what the testing is for. Either way, it'll be much more noticeable at night than a hand signal

[Patrick L.]

Originally Posted by Synchro909

FWIW, flashing stop lights are illegal here and turn signals are amber, front and back.

I added them to the motorbikes. They flash 3 times before going on steady and they get your attention. I should know whether they are legal here or not, but, I don't. So far, I like them.

[katy]

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Have dual tail lights and I used clearance lights w/amber lenses for the front, I think the small "in the bumper" front ones are hard to see.

[Y-Blockhead]

Originally Posted by Synchro909

FWIW, flashing stop lights are illegal here.

Originally Posted by Patrick L.

I added them to the motorbikes. They flash 3 times before going on steady and they get your attention. I should know whether they are legal here or not, but, I don't. So far, I like them.

I have a flasher module connected to my third brake light. It is adjustable and flasher 3-4 times before going solid. I have it mounted by the brake light switch. I don't know if they are legal or not but I see them on Police motorcycles... https://www.amazon.com/United-Pacifi...%2C939&sr=8-13

[Badpuppy]

Ryan, the 21/32 CP bulbs (S8 size) won't fit inside the cowl buckets. Best you can do in incandescents is 10 CP (G6), which is probably bright enough. Best go with LEDs - 12 segment bulbs fit (barely) and are about 21 CP, also available in amber, which I have.

The dual bulbs mentioned above require you change the sockets to double contacts.

[ryanheacox]

Originally Posted by Badpuppy

Ryan, the 21/32 CP bulbs (S8 size) won't fit inside the cowl buckets. Best you can do in incandescents is 10 CP (G6), which is probably bright enough. Best go with LEDs - 12 segment bulbs fit (barely) and are about 21 CP, also available in amber, which I have.

The dual bulbs mentioned above require you change the sockets to double contacts.

Really? I could have sworn the sockets for the parking, brake, and tail lights were all the same size. In that case I may have to use LEDs and a resistor or electronic flasher.


Edit: Oh wait, are you talking about the cowl lights? I don't have cowl lights on my car.

[pjdeb]

At first I did not want signal lights on my pick up. Shipped it to Florida and quickly learned that they are a must. Drivers are right on your tail pipe.

I did not want the switch on the column. I made a bracket and mounted it on the seat face behind the gearshift. Easy reach. See the picture. Has wingnuts so it can easily be removed so seat can clear when I need to lift it out. Added a simple buzzer under the seat. The wiring and the flasher are there as well.

Added another socket in each headlight for front signal. Option: leave parking light as or disconnect and tie with new socket for more light. I choose this as I was then able to remove the parking light wire. It is too tight in the loom and cabled sheath for three wires. I did not want a wire wrapped around the outside of the chrome sheath.

Have yet to find a good solution for the rear signals. Added LEDs for now to my "Stay Back..." sign as pictured.

[The Master Cylinder]

Originally Posted by pjdeb

"Stay Back..." sign as pictured.

Haha, I like it!!