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Old 09-17-2015, 07:19 PM   #1
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Does anyone use an oil filter, either full-flow or bypass?

I think I like the Snyder's style that replaces the timing side cover....just because it looks like a neat installation...

http://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/oil-filter-kit-2054
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Old 09-17-2015, 08:45 PM   #2
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I run a couple of those filters - work fine.
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Looks like a good chance to spill oil! Ron W
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Oh but I always have a catch pan under the old pickup!
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Does that sort of filter increase the oil pressure? Well, where the oil guage goes anyway.
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Old 09-18-2015, 03:38 AM   #6
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I run the full-flow valve cover filter on my 29 roadster with the original "A" motor. And on my 31 roadster with a "B" block I run the by-pass filter. Any filter is better then no filter! Yes, there is some oil spillage when changing the filters, but it is minor.

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Does that sort of filter increase the oil pressure? Well, where the oil guage goes anyway.
I would think if anything it would decrease the oil pressure. The oil only has one way to go and that is up into the valve chamber to be distributed. With the filter you are spilling oil out of that area and sending it to the oil filter instead of up into the valve chamber. Giving the oil another outlet, would reduce pressure.
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When we tested the various options several years ago we found the valve cover unit was, in our opinion, the best of the ones out there.
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Bratton's shows a similar filter kit, but without the 90° adapter....the adapter seems like a good idea....did you get it along with the rest of the kit or separately?

http://www.brattons.com/product.asp?...=any&PT_ID=all
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Bratton's shows a similar filter kit, but without the 90° adapter....the adapter seems like a good idea....did you get it along with the rest of the kit or separately?

http://www.brattons.com/product.asp?...=any&PT_ID=all
The Bratton's "Kit" is made by Mike's (cheaper) and yes the 90° adapter is a separate item
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Another option. Ed
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I would think if anything it would decrease the oil pressure. The oil only has one way to go and that is up into the valve chamber to be distributed. With the filter you are spilling oil out of that area and sending it to the oil filter instead of up into the valve chamber. Giving the oil another outlet, would reduce pressure.
I assumed it sends all the oil thru the filter??
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Old 09-18-2015, 03:40 PM   #13
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My oil pressure was running at 7 pounds before oil filter. Now it is at 12 pounds.

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Old 09-18-2015, 08:56 PM   #14
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The Bratton's "Kit" is made by Mike's (cheaper) and yes the 90° adapter is a separate item
Did the 90 ° adapter come from Mike's also? I can't find one in the online catalog...

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I believe the 90° adapter is made by Ford Racing. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/fm...-a50/overview/

IF you can find one, most '56-'64 Ford Big trucks with the Y-Block engine (292) had a 90° oil filter adapter stock in order to clear the steering box.

If you have a truck bone yard around you may be able to find one cheap.

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Another option. Ed
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Hm, nice option , but looks to be 'below' block...how/what fastened to

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Hm, nice option , but looks to be 'below' block...how/what fastened to

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Looks good Hardtimes. Is that yours??
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[QUOTE=hardtimes;1159210]Hey Ed,
Hm, nice option , but looks to be 'below' block...how/what fastened to

I made a bracket that attaches to two of the oil pan bolts and the assembly then bolts to the bracket. Gets the filter down and out of the way. Ed
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Has anyone cut open their used filters to see what, if anything, was trapped in the filter? I'm of the opinion that a filter only works on a newly rebuilt engine to trap filings and grindings that the rebuilder didn't bother to clean out during the rebuild process. Most of the dust inhaled through the carb that works its way into the crankcase is under 10 microns, too small for the filter to catch.
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Looks good Hardtimes. Is that yours??
Hey waxhead,
Yeah, that is the B in my driver, '30 roadster...full flow and no spill !
Plus , as you can see, a threaded opening for the oil gage. Nice unit. Haven't seen another like it, but would like to buy another. Only problem with it, is that it blocks use of the B fuel pump..bummer.
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Hm, nice option , but looks to be 'below' block...how/what fastened to

I made a bracket that attaches to two of the oil pan bolts and the assembly then bolts to the bracket. Gets the filter down and out of the way. Ed
Hey Ed,
Good idea, thanks ! I've been trying to figure out an 'out of the way' location for my Kong full flow oil device on a B that I finishing up. I want to use the B fuel pump this time and your app might just give right solution.
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John La Voy did an article on his testing of the oil filters in the Times a while back. I do believe that the filters were cut open after use. It might be useful to look up that article. If you don't have the old magazines you couldcontact him and buy one, perhaps.
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Has anyone cut open their used filters to see what, if anything, was trapped in the filter?
I did an oil and filter change on our son's well used '94 pathfinder one time that he had "forgotten" to get serviced for a long time. He had put on 27,000 kilometers (~17K miles) since it was serviced. I cut the filter open to see what the inards looked like and was surprised that it wasn't chock-a-block full of crap, just the usual dirty mess that one see's on a 5K mile filter's inards.
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I did an oil and filter change on our son's well used '94 pathfinder one time that he had "forgotten" to get serviced for a long time. He had put on 27,000 kilometers (~17K miles) since it was serviced. I cut the filter open to see what the inards looked like and was surprised that it wasn't chock-a-block full of crap, just the usual dirty mess that one see's on a 5K mile filter's inards.
Hey katy,
Yeah, another yute's horror story of engine abuse..sounds all tooo familiar !
Regarding oil filter replacement, there was a time, I was informed that the filter could / should be replaced...every other oil change is perfectly ok. I used to do that when the filter was cheap, now not so much and they are no longer cheap. Of course, this would be dependent on condition of engine insides.
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Cutting the filter open will reveal any metal, ie: Babbitt, aluminum, etc. Catch it before it's gone way too far.

Aircraft mechanics open them every time for that specific reason.
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Cutting the filter open will reveal any metal, ie: Babbitt, aluminum, etc. Catch it before it's gone way too far.

Aircraft mechanics open them every time for that specific reason.
I think that if you are finding Babbitt, aluminum. etc., the problem has already progressed into the 'gone too far' category! Pieces of Babbitt would indicate a bearing starting to flake, which means it already has to be redone; but looking into the filter may save a breakdown 100's of miles from home.
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I think that if you are finding Babbitt, aluminum. etc., the problem has already progressed into the 'gone too far' category! Pieces of Babbitt would indicate a bearing starting to flake, which means it already has to be redone; but looking into the filter may save a breakdown 100's of miles from home.
That's the part I was talking about!
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Use a giant pipe cutter or tin snips to cut the filter open, so you don't introduce a lot of metal chips from using a hacksaw.
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How about a can cutter something like this?

(works pretty much like a kitchen can opener.)
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Does anyone use an oil filter, either full-flow or bypass?

I think I like the Snyder's style that replaces the timing side cover....just because it looks like a neat installation...

http://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/oil-filter-kit-2054
I think the side timing gear cover filter assembly will filter less than 15%-20% of the oil pumped.

The A-6705-F $169.95 / ea. (Snyder's) filters almost all of the oil passing through the pump.

I am in agreement with John LaVoy. IMO: I think the valve cover filter is the best available. (A-Ford-Able Full Flow Oil Filter)
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Ed Pitts' post inspired me to do something similar - draw off the block do a bypass through the filter and then dump back into the sump - except I tapped the timing cover instead (easier to remove for the drilling and tapping).


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I mounted mine higher because of the splash shields. You may wonder... I used SAE 30R7 hose with 1/2" steel springs wound around it to avoid crimping in the bends. Pressure shouldn't ever be a problem.


I'm getting a full crankcase oil change every 15 minutes at idle.


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I was told to use this filter.
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If you run the full flow filter with the bypass lube line to the center main bearing you actually 'pressurize' the center main bearing to the extent the filter media provides a restriction to flow. This is part of the center main lube line,drill the cap and install a brass fitting...the rest can be done by drilling the oil pump shaft housing and tapping it.and connecting the two fittings with a steel tube..

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