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Vanspeed · 11-16-2015, 08:03 PM

I started on my headlights tonight and now I am really confused. Why are the mounts in a different spot?? What light is correct, the green or the black? This is getting frustrating.

33 roadster · 11-16-2015, 10:15 PM

Hi, The black one is for a pickup. The green one is for a ton and a half. Larry

Lawson Cox · 11-16-2015, 10:22 PM

I hope Old and Tired jumps in here. He knows all about these different headlights.

oldandtired · 11-17-2015, 08:47 AM

I believe I made a post about just that question a few days ago on a post about the correct buckets for various year pickups. The bucket on the left I have never seen except on a 37. The 37's also came with the bucket like the one on the right. I was told that the one on the left was for a COE, but I have never seen a 37 COE and I have personally taken them off of both half-ton and 1 1/2 ton trucks...all 37's. The stand toward the rear has the net effect of moving the headlight a bit forward. In any case, the one on the left is not correct for a 35 pickup. I suspect the extra hole in the one pictured on the right is where someone put a ground wire on the back of the bucket. I believe you originally posted looking for the mounting bolt...perhaps you could remove the bolt from the bucket on the left and install it on one of the buckets you started out with.

Vanspeed · 11-17-2015, 10:25 AM

Thanks for the info, sadly these are the two best buckets I have, I never noticed the different mounting locations until yesterday. I am thinking of modifying the 37 bucket and move the hole to the 35 location and weld up the old holes. I know, lots of work but it is all I have. My other 35 bucket is trashed.

willowbilly3 · 11-17-2015, 12:49 PM

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FWIW, here's one of the headlights I just pulled from a 35 truck

oldandtired · 11-17-2015, 05:55 PM

Vanspeed...the buckets show up fairly regularly on the auction site. I will be setting up in Moultrie this week and will see if I can find you one. The singles are frequently far less expensive than pairs.

Vanspeed · 11-17-2015, 06:14 PM

So it must be that people replaced the 35's with later lights? Or is this one of those cases where ford could have put either on at the factory?

oldandtired · 11-18-2015, 08:31 AM

Vanspeed...Perhaps the differences were regional. Ford made at least two different 35 pickup grilles that varied in the crank holes. I believe Lawson has pictures of both types. Ford made at least 3 different toeboards for the 38/9 pickups. In 35 they used two different doors, there were some other small differences inside the cabs that were covered up when upholstered, Ford used 34 grill ornaments on some of the early pickups before coming out with one for the 35, they used both single and dual instrument setups, and I do not think they made a 35 Deluxe pickup but I have sure seen several at shows with chrome windshield frames, a banjo, two horns, and the like.

Lawson Cox · 11-18-2015, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by oldandtired

Vanspeed...Perhaps the differences were regional. Ford made at least two different 35 pickup grilles that varied in the crank holes. I believe Lawson has pictures of both types. Ford made at least 3 different toeboards for the 38/9 pickups. In 35 they used two different doors, there were some other small differences inside the cabs that were covered up when upholstered, Ford used 34 grill ornaments on some of the early pickups before coming out with one for the 35, they used both single and dual instrument setups, and I do not think they made a 35 Deluxe pickup but I have sure seen several at shows with chrome windshield frames, a banjo, two horns, and the like.

That would be five (5) different doors in 35.

1. removable garnish moldings
2. when garnish moldings were discontinued around March 35 a pull handle was stamped into the top of the door inner panel and the inner panel was held in by 5 push pins across the top.
3. 6 push pins across top of door panel
4. 7 push pins across top of door panel
5. 9 push pins across the top.
6. 1/4 inch channel welded to door to secure top of trim panel. (This did not come to pass until sometime after 36 went into production.)

Don Rogers · 12-23-2015, 11:28 PM

Vanspeed, Your oddball headlight bucket is a 1937 large truck head light. Here is part of a drawing identifying the light.

11-16-2015, 08:03 PM	#1
Vanspeed Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Suttons Bay, Mich. Posts: 3,384	Another 1935 pickup headlight question I started on my headlights tonight and now I am really confused. Why are the mounts in a different spot?? What light is correct, the green or the black? This is getting frustrating. __________________ *Respecting and Resurrecting Ford Model A's.*

11-16-2015, 10:15 PM	#2
33 roadster Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Puyallup, Washington Posts: 69	Re: Another 1935 pickup headlight question Hi, The black one is for a pickup. The green one is for a ton and a half. Larry

11-16-2015, 10:22 PM	#3
Lawson Cox Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Above the gnat line in Georgia Posts: 7,009	Re: Another 1935 pickup headlight question I hope Old and Tired jumps in here. He knows all about these different headlights. __________________ Life is like a roll of toilet paper. The closer to the end, the faster it goes. It is better to be seen, than viewed. "We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm".

11-17-2015, 08:47 AM	#4
oldandtired Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Edgefield, SC Posts: 811	Re: Another 1935 pickup headlight question I believe I made a post about just that question a few days ago on a post about the correct buckets for various year pickups. The bucket on the left I have never seen except on a 37. The 37's also came with the bucket like the one on the right. I was told that the one on the left was for a COE, but I have never seen a 37 COE and I have personally taken them off of both half-ton and 1 1/2 ton trucks...all 37's. The stand toward the rear has the net effect of moving the headlight a bit forward. In any case, the one on the left is not correct for a 35 pickup. I suspect the extra hole in the one pictured on the right is where someone put a ground wire on the back of the bucket. I believe you originally posted looking for the mounting bolt...perhaps you could remove the bolt from the bucket on the left and install it on one of the buckets you started out with.

11-17-2015, 10:25 AM	#5
Vanspeed Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Suttons Bay, Mich. Posts: 3,384	Re: Another 1935 pickup headlight question Thanks for the info, sadly these are the two best buckets I have, I never noticed the different mounting locations until yesterday. I am thinking of modifying the 37 bucket and move the hole to the 35 location and weld up the old holes. I know, lots of work but it is all I have. My other 35 bucket is trashed. __________________ *Respecting and Resurrecting Ford Model A's.*

11-17-2015, 12:49 PM	#6
willowbilly3 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Black Hills, SD Posts: 577	Re: Another 1935 pickup headlight question Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) FWIW, here's one of the headlights I just pulled from a 35 truck

11-17-2015, 05:55 PM	#7
oldandtired Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Edgefield, SC Posts: 811	Re: Another 1935 pickup headlight question Vanspeed...the buckets show up fairly regularly on the auction site. I will be setting up in Moultrie this week and will see if I can find you one. The singles are frequently far less expensive than pairs.

11-17-2015, 06:14 PM	#8
Vanspeed Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Suttons Bay, Mich. Posts: 3,384	Re: Another 1935 pickup headlight question So it must be that people replaced the 35's with later lights? Or is this one of those cases where ford could have put either on at the factory? __________________ *Respecting and Resurrecting Ford Model A's.*

11-18-2015, 08:31 AM	#9
oldandtired Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Edgefield, SC Posts: 811	Re: Another 1935 pickup headlight question Vanspeed...Perhaps the differences were regional. Ford made at least two different 35 pickup grilles that varied in the crank holes. I believe Lawson has pictures of both types. Ford made at least 3 different toeboards for the 38/9 pickups. In 35 they used two different doors, there were some other small differences inside the cabs that were covered up when upholstered, Ford used 34 grill ornaments on some of the early pickups before coming out with one for the 35, they used both single and dual instrument setups, and I do not think they made a 35 Deluxe pickup but I have sure seen several at shows with chrome windshield frames, a banjo, two horns, and the like.