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Old 02-03-2014, 01:02 PM   #1
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Default king pin/spindle interference

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I have attached 5 photos showing the top of the king pins in relation to the brake adjusting nut.
On the passenger side the clearence is about a 1/4 ".
On the driver side I barely have room to get dental floss through.
2 pictures are close ups and 2 are the overview of each side. This for the experts to look for other things wrong that might be causing this.
I have touched / replaced almost everything in the front end, including the king pins, with all the pieces, although 25 years ago when the internet was not available.
i did not serach the threads because I assumed this never came up before, since in all my readings, I never saw it.
Thanks in advance
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Old 02-03-2014, 02:10 PM   #2
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Default Re: king pin/spindle interference

Bearing under king pin is wrong. Too thick.
Thats what it looks like.
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Old 02-03-2014, 04:41 PM   #3
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I would "think" that if it at least had some clearance, it wouldn't be a "BIG DEAL" or cause any "ill" effect.???
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Old 02-03-2014, 07:11 PM   #4
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Default Re: king pin/spindle interference

The bolt is through the king pin in the only location it can go. .
That puts the top of the spindle / king pin in a set location.
That what has me puzzled.
Is it something in the wheel hub?
I don't believe the bushing would set the top higher.
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I'm not having any trouble, but it caught my eye while greasing. Will clean the grease off everything when the weather warms up.
No heat in the garage
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Old 02-03-2014, 07:29 PM   #5
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Default Re: king pin/spindle interference

Clean and look is a good plan. Looking I see what looks like two different bearings. But without being clean can't see how the parts fit in relation to each other.
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Old 02-03-2014, 07:30 PM   #6
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Maybe the aftermarket king pins are slightly larger on the top castings
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Old 02-03-2014, 07:57 PM   #7
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The part on the backing plate where the brake adjuster goes through looks bent down in picture #2. The other side looks OK. JMO.
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Old 02-03-2014, 08:38 PM   #8
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I don't know why Dudley's reply was pulled but I believe he was correct. I think if you measure the distance from the square adjuster to the top of the kingpin they will be nearly equal. The adjuster housings are different (early vs. late).
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Old 02-03-2014, 08:55 PM   #9
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Tom, slightly off topic but I would be careful with those oddball shocks. A friend recently had a scare when a brake rod got hung up on a non-stock shock. He had been driving trouble free for several years beforehand.
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Old 02-03-2014, 09:03 PM   #10
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Default Re: king pin/spindle interference

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I don't understand what you mean....Dudley's response pulled.
Also I don't understand where to measure.
Square adjusting nut to top of king pins differ by a fat 1/4" from pass side to driver side.
I'm starting to think the housings are different since the king pins are in a set position........I think
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Old 02-03-2014, 09:20 PM   #11
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I don't understand what you mean....Dudley's response pulled.
Also I don't understand where to measure.
Square adjusting nut to top of king pins differ by a fat 1/4" from pass side to driver side.
I'm starting to think the housings are different since the king pins are in a set position........I think
I looked back at the overall photos and see why Dudley removed his post. What we both thought we saw in the close ups was not the case.
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Old 02-03-2014, 09:39 PM   #12
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I see an air gap on top of the axle on the right side. A thinner bearing (or worn bearing) would let the axle and kingpin drop down some.
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Old 02-04-2014, 10:24 AM   #13
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I looked back at the overall photos and see why Dudley removed his post. What we both thought we saw in the close ups was not the case.
Your correct Marco........thank you.
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Old 02-04-2014, 01:00 PM   #14
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I see an air gap on top of the axle on the right side. A thinner bearing (or worn bearing) would let the axle and kingpin drop down some.
Tom and Marco,

At the time I deleted my post, I also noted, which looks like, a space
between the axle and the spindle......on the bottom side.
You agree....
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