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Old 09-02-2011, 07:35 PM   #1
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Default 48-50 F1 factory heater

Is there a so called correct or factory heater for these truck or were they all aftermarket?I've seen some advertise as factory but the were both different looking.Years ago my dads had a magic air in it with a triangle shaped control panel.I have seen the ford script ones also.So if anyone has a picture of what a factory would look like that would be great.
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Old 09-02-2011, 07:45 PM   #2
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Default Re: 48-50 F1 factory heater

I had a 50 1/2 ton a few years back with a factory heater. It had a long air intake duct that ran from the right headlight area along the fender into the cab to a heater box. Best I can remember the blower motor was mounted under the fender and not inside the heater box.
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Old 09-02-2011, 10:24 PM   #3
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Default Re: 48-50 F1 factory heater

Here is a pic of a Ford script fresh air heater as Ken described their is a tube that runs inside the front passenger fender along with the blower motor.

http://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showth...ghlight=heater

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Old 09-03-2011, 12:31 AM   #4
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Default Re: 48-50 F1 factory heater

So the magic air and the ford script one posted both use a air tube? Is the tube the same for both heaters?
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Old 09-03-2011, 07:24 AM   #5
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Default Re: 48-50 F1 factory heater

There are 2 types of factory heaters, The Magic Aire as described above, and a recirculating heater. THe recirculating heater did not use the air duct under the fender. It just uses the air in the cab, or as the name implies, recirculates the air. There is also an accessory heater that was available and that was a recirculating heater also. It had 3 doors on the face and was used in prior years.
THere are 2 different versions of the Magic Aire, one for 48-50 and the other for 51-52. THe 52 version had a different flapper door arraingment than the 51 year. THe 48-50 had the triangular control bracket and the 51-52 had a straight control bracket. Both mounted under the bottom of the dash.
The 49-51 shop manual and the 48-55 parts books have excellent drawings of the heater setups.
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Old 09-03-2011, 07:36 AM   #6
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Here's a few pics of the 48-50 Magic Air. Installation is not complete yet.
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Old 09-03-2011, 11:23 AM   #7
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Default Re: 48-50 F1 factory heater

Barry thank you!!Sorry for all the questions,I'm just trying to figure this out.Is the one in the picture a magic air?The truck my dad restored many years ago had the triangular control like the one pictured,but on the heater I remember seeing a round badge that said magic air and I remember it had the fresh air tube.I'm not saying his truck was correct,thats just what was in it when he restored it,not to mention I was probably only 10 years old at the time so my memory may be off.LOL I'll have to look for a shop manuel at the next swapmeet.
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Old 09-03-2011, 12:51 PM   #8
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Yes, that pic is the 48-50 Magic Aire heater. If he had a round badge on the face of the heater, it was a 51-52 Magic Aire.
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Old 09-03-2011, 01:30 PM   #9
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Ok thats what I was trying to figure out.
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Old 10-03-2011, 12:25 AM   #10
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Default Re: 48-50 F1 factory heater

Here are the pictures of the heater diagrams from one of my parts books. I also included pictures of the heaters from the Ford dealer accessory brochures. Also, note that the 51 and 52 heaters visually look the same. However, the heater core tubes are spaced differently between the 51 and 52 model years. Also, there different badges on the 51 and 52 MA heaters. The fresh air inlet tubes are also different between the 48-50 and 51-52 MA heater groups.






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Old 10-05-2011, 10:53 PM   #11
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Default Re: 48-50 F1 factory heater

Thanks panelman that totally clears it up for me.
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Old 10-06-2011, 09:31 AM   #12
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Default Re: 48-50 F1 factory heater

Speaking of F-1 Heaters, I believe this one is 1953-1956. It is 12v. It is similar to the 1952 heater, of which has a diagram, above.
The cold air is drawn IN through the core and a squirrel-cage fan directs all the heated air, through the duct, on top. It is dated 1956 inside.
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Old 10-06-2011, 09:36 AM   #13
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Mike, that heater would be 56 or later. Ford went to 12 volt in 1956.
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Default Re: 48-50 F1 factory heater

THat heater is not for a truck. I went thru my 57-63 and 64-72 truck parts illustrations and none are even close to that. I'd take a guess at 57-60 car?
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Default Re: 48-50 F1 factory heater

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Speaking of F-1 Heaters, I believe this one is 1953-1956. It is 12v. It is similar to the 1952 heater, of which has a diagram, above.
The cold air is drawn IN through the core and a squirrel-cage fan directs all the heated air, through the duct, on top. It is dated 1956 inside.
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I had a heater like that in a '57 Ranchero
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Old 10-06-2011, 11:34 PM   #16
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Mike, that heater would be 56 or later. Ford went to 12 volt in 1956.
I guess that I am slipping. I know that 12v was started in 1956. I used to own a '53 and a '55.
I was really wondering if it was for a F-1.
I have two of these 12v heaters, which I will be selling, when I get them both cleaned up and running.
They would look great in an ole F-1, which was converted to 12v.
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Old 10-07-2011, 10:18 PM   #17
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THat heater is not for a truck. I went thru my 57-63 and 64-72 truck parts illustrations and none are even close to that. I'd take a guess at 57-60 car?
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Thanks for your effort. It even looks like "truck" to me. Maybe they are Ranchero heaters, like 40cpe said.
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Old 10-08-2011, 09:53 PM   #18
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Default Re: 48-50 F1 factory heater

I have a 48 F-1 and the way I understand it is the trucks did not come
from the factory with heaters in them, it was installed by the dealer
on request and they installed whatever they had in stock and so some
would one kind and some the other
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Old 10-09-2011, 07:57 AM   #19
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Default Re: 48-50 F1 factory heater

That's incorrect. I have several Salesman's data books and they clearly show heaters as a factory option. Ford did offer add on accessories as a way to up the dealer profit margin on thier sales. I have Parts dept marketing books that spell that out to dealers back then as a way to make more money. THere are also alot of aftermarket heaters out thyere that customers put in themselves as they were much cheaper than the Ford accessories. Sears, Western auto, Montgomery Ward were just a few of the add on companies that sold heaters.
When I was a parts manager in the 70's and 80's, we would order trucks without rear step bumpers and offer aftermarket ones to customers as a way to make more on each truck. Same with radios. It all goes back to the 40's and 50's sales marketing.
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Default Re: 48-50 F1 factory heater

Have just recently restored a '48-'50 Magic Air heater , blower motor case / housing , & 3 pc. fresh air tube if anyone is interested in it for their stock truck . Has a 12V replacement motor . Will post to classifieds .
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