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jboggess · 11-25-2016, 05:49 PM

Hi all, i dont post much but just wanted to get your thoughts on a couple of things, i recently had my 29 engine rebuilt locally, after a week of installing it in the car and wiring it up and starting it up, there seems to be 2 problems with it. 1, water is starting to leak from the head gasket, and 2 when the engine is running there seems to be a steady stream of oil coming out of bottom of the transmission where the hole is

.... if i tork the head do you think that would take care of the water problem, as for the oil leak do you think someone forgot a gasket felt or something?.. any thoughts would be great. Thanks..

700rpm · 11-25-2016, 06:10 PM

Have you retorqued the head after running it a while? If not do that, in proper sequence, 55ft lbs.

There shouldn't be any holes in the bottom of the transmission. If it's leaking out of the flywheel housing, you may have a bad rear main. If it's leaking between the flywheel housing and the block, the gasket around the end of the camshaft probably wasn't sealed properly. Is it leaking oil or 600w?

Chuck Sea/Tac · 11-25-2016, 06:27 PM

You can remove the lower inspection cover (3 bolts), and look up at the bearing to see if that's your problem, or if it's a poor pan installation. Or as Ray said oil running down from the cam shaft hole in rear of block.

Charlie Stephens · 11-25-2016, 06:56 PM

You should be able to see a gasket between the engine and the flywheel housing, can you? Another thing to check, but not related to the current problem, did they install the shims on the top two bolts between the engine and the flywheel housing?

Charlie Stephens

Bill in NJ · 11-25-2016, 07:13 PM

I would ask the rebuilder these questions. You do not to void the warranty ??

700rpm · 11-25-2016, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill in NJ

I would ask the rebuilder these questions. You do not to void the warranty ??

Best answer.

C26Pinelake · 11-25-2016, 10:46 PM

The problem is the rebuilders. Call him to come fix his problem ! Wayne

3.6rs · 11-25-2016, 11:35 PM

You should do nothing and return to the company who rebuilt it.

DaWizard · 11-25-2016, 11:39 PM

It may also be the tube wasn't installed that drains the rear main oil back into the pan, which will make it pour oil out the flywheel housing, or the tube could be plugged.

Terry, NJ · 11-26-2016, 09:18 AM

Fo me, It was strange! A gasket between the block and and the flywheel housing? No it can't be! Never heard of such a thing! Well without that gasket there is nothing to seal the end of the camshaft and engine oil can pour out that connection. Also, the aforementioned oil tube in the rear main. Why this should be I never fully understood. But it is! If it's missing or plugged, it will pour oil out all over the ground (Don't ask me how I know).
Terry

John Stone · 11-26-2016, 10:32 AM

I found that if the gasket between the block and flywheel housing is not there, it will not leak while running but after you shut it off, watch it pour. Another voice of experience. I put one on backward, once.

jboggess · 11-26-2016, 04:09 PM

Thanks for all of your replies, looks like ill be pulling the engine either way. Thanks.

Bill in NJ · 11-26-2016, 04:38 PM

I would still tell the rebuilder first. He might want to see the head gasket leaking or the oil leaking. I would not try to fix the head gasket leak but let him do that

jboggess · 12-10-2016, 06:08 PM

Just an up date on the engine, pulled it, took it back to the person who rebuilt it. All the gaskets were there, but turns out that the new oil tube opening was still wrapped up from being shipped... Honest mistake i guess ...

700rpm · 12-10-2016, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jboggess

Just an up date on the engine, pulled it, took it back to the person who rebuilt it. All the gaskets were there, but turns out that the new oil tube opening was still wrapped up from being shipped... Honest mistake i guess ...

Have your rebuilder recheck everything one more time before he releases the engine back to you. That oil tube should be secured so it can't come loose and fall out. Also make sure it isn't screwed in too far. And put some sealant on the gasket where it meets the block around the end of the camshaft when you bolt everything together.

11-25-2016, 05:49 PM	#1
jboggess Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 112	New engine problems Hi all, i dont post much but just wanted to get your thoughts on a couple of things, i recently had my 29 engine rebuilt locally, after a week of installing it in the car and wiring it up and starting it up, there seems to be 2 problems with it. 1, water is starting to leak from the head gasket, and 2 when the engine is running there seems to be a steady stream of oil coming out of bottom of the transmission where the hole is .... if i tork the head do you think that would take care of the water problem, as for the oil leak do you think someone forgot a gasket felt or something?.. any thoughts would be great. Thanks..

11-25-2016, 06:10 PM	#2
700rpm Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 5,906	Re: New engine problems Have you retorqued the head after running it a while? If not do that, in proper sequence, 55ft lbs. There shouldn't be any holes in the bottom of the transmission. If it's leaking out of the flywheel housing, you may have a bad rear main. If it's leaking between the flywheel housing and the block, the gasket around the end of the camshaft probably wasn't sealed properly. Is it leaking oil or 600w? __________________ Ray Horton, Portland, OR As you go through life, keep your eye on the donut, not the hole.

11-25-2016, 06:27 PM	#3
Chuck Sea/Tac Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Between Seattle & Tacoma Posts: 2,354	Re: New engine problems You can remove the lower inspection cover (3 bolts), and look up at the bearing to see if that's your problem, or if it's a poor pan installation. Or as Ray said oil running down from the cam shaft hole in rear of block.

11-25-2016, 06:56 PM	#4
Charlie Stephens Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Southern California Posts: 7,032	Re: New engine problems You should be able to see a gasket between the engine and the flywheel housing, can you? Another thing to check, but not related to the current problem, did they install the shims on the top two bolts between the engine and the flywheel housing? Charlie Stephens

11-25-2016, 07:13 PM	#5
Bill in NJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,159	Re: New engine problems I would ask the rebuilder these questions. You do not to void the warranty ??

11-25-2016, 10:46 PM	#7
C26Pinelake BANNED Join Date: May 2010 Location: Michigan / Ontario border, Sarnia, Ontario. 50 miles from Detroit and 150 from Toronto. Posts: 5,800	Re: New engine problems The problem is the rebuilders. Call him to come fix his problem ! Wayne

11-25-2016, 11:35 PM	#8
3.6rs Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Belgistan (formerly known as Belgium) Posts: 573	Re: New engine problems You should do nothing and return to the company who rebuilt it.

11-25-2016, 11:39 PM	#9
DaWizard BANNED Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Dizzyland Ca Posts: 332	Re: New engine problems It may also be the tube wasn't installed that drains the rear main oil back into the pan, which will make it pour oil out the flywheel housing, or the tube could be plugged. __________________ New owner of '28 Tudor Previously owned; '30 Sport Coupe '28 left brake ccPickup '31 SW Town Sedan '28 AA Stake Bed '30 Cabriolet '42 Super Deluxe 4door Sedan "If it don't fit, get a bigger hammer. If it breaks...... ya needed a new one anyway!!" Doing a good job here is like wetting your pants in a dark suit. It gives you a warm feeling, but nobody notices. Never pass up a bathroom Never neglect an erection Never trust a fart

11-26-2016, 09:18 AM	#10
Terry, NJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Bucks Co, Pa Posts: 3,740	Re: New engine problems Fo me, It was strange! A gasket between the block and and the flywheel housing? No it can't be! Never heard of such a thing! Well without that gasket there is nothing to seal the end of the camshaft and engine oil can pour out that connection. Also, the aforementioned oil tube in the rear main. Why this should be I never fully understood. But it is! If it's missing or plugged, it will pour oil out all over the ground (Don't ask me how I know). Terry

11-26-2016, 10:32 AM	#11
John Stone Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Wichita, Kansas Posts: 710	Re: New engine problems I found that if the gasket between the block and flywheel housing is not there, it will not leak while running but after you shut it off, watch it pour. Another voice of experience. I put one on backward, once.

11-26-2016, 04:09 PM	#12
jboggess Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 112	Re: New engine problems Thanks for all of your replies, looks like ill be pulling the engine either way. Thanks.

11-26-2016, 04:38 PM	#13
Bill in NJ Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,159	Re: New engine problems I would still tell the rebuilder first. He might want to see the head gasket leaking or the oil leaking. I would not try to fix the head gasket leak but let him do that

12-10-2016, 06:08 PM	#14
jboggess Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 112	Re: New engine problems Just an up date on the engine, pulled it, took it back to the person who rebuilt it. All the gaskets were there, but turns out that the new oil tube opening was still wrapped up from being shipped... Honest mistake i guess ...