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Old 08-25-2013, 06:55 AM   #1
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My Favorite Early Ford V/8 Tool is Herbrand #2360 Ford Motor Jack. It not only raises the Motor & holds it in position but provides the means of turning the motor over while working on the bearings, replacing rings, pistons or any of the Numerous jobs performed with the crankcase off. Remove the Fab Pulley Nut, screw in the threaded bolt into the Crank Shaft & rest the foot of the Tool on the Chassis. An easy turn of the forcing screw raises or lowers the Motor to proper working position. The use of a Conventional Jack is Dangerous. With this Tool, you can make Road repairs easier Ex. changing Water Pumps & Raising the Motor to working on Transmission Problems. Tool Wt. 2 lbs. 6 oz. Height 11". Easley carried in your car to take on Road Trips.

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Old 08-25-2013, 07:38 AM   #2
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My Favorite Early Ford V/8 Tool is Herbrand #2360 Ford Motor Jack. It not only raises the Motor & holds it in position but provides the means of turning the motor over while working on the bearings, replacing rings, pistons or any of the Numerous jobs performed with the crankcase off. Remove the Fab Pulley Nut, screw in the threaded bolt into the Crank Shaft & rest the foot of the Tool on the Chassis. An easy turn of the forcing screw raises or lowers the Motor to proper working position. The use of a Conventional Jack is Dangerous. With this Tool, you can make Road repairs easier Ex. changing Water Pumps & Raising the Motor to working on Transmission Problems. Tool Wt. 2 lbs. 6 oz. Height 11". Easley carried in your car to take on Road Trips.
Could you post a pic of that tool? I've never heard of it. Walt
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yes pic please. Google turns up nothing.
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Not Mine.. Found on internet
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Very interesting,looks useful and easy to make. Phil
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Yes someone could fabricate that very easy, might try it myself.
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Looks interesting but on mine I don't have access to the pulley from under the car ( it's sealed )
Also question the "working on Transmission Problems" part, since you are only lifting the front of the engine.
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Old 08-25-2013, 04:21 PM   #8
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I guess mine would be the K.R. Wilson engine stand. I gets used the most and is a wonderful tool when working on Flatheads and V12 engines.
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Old 08-25-2013, 05:01 PM   #9
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Now that's whatcha call a couple o' chunks of cast iron. DD
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Old 08-25-2013, 05:05 PM   #10
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My favourite tools are my ignition keys, as to why, well you can figure that out.
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Old 08-25-2013, 06:52 PM   #11
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Im still new to this early stuff, the Hub puller gets my vote so far...
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I guess mine would be the K.R. Wilson engine stand. I gets used the most and is a wonderful tool when working on Flatheads and V12 engines.
Was sort'a makin me dizzy counting all those cylinders
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Old 08-25-2013, 07:56 PM   #13
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WANTED: KR WILSON HUB PULLER. I tried the want ads twiceand thought others might view this!
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My dad had two brothers and all three were car nuts back in the 40's, 50's and 60's. My uncle Tom Baker patented this puller which I have inherited from my dad. I don't think it made him much money, but it's my favorite tool for strictly personal reasons.
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Old 08-25-2013, 09:41 PM   #15
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Was sort'a makin me dizzy counting all those cylinders
WOW ! My engine grew ,now I need to round up two more pistons.
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Old 08-26-2013, 12:47 AM   #16
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Can I see a need for a custom crank as well?
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NOW..........a V-14! DD
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Old 08-26-2013, 10:23 AM   #18
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That's an incredible job. Totally seemless. Looks real!
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Old 08-26-2013, 10:30 AM   #19
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Not sure if you are asking about tools made by or for FoMoCo and/or tools that someone has personally made themselves to use while working on their Early Ford V8? The tools I like the most are the ones I have made myself.
Hub/drum puller, steering wheel puller, pinion and pinion bearing removal tool, press on timing gear puller, distributor bearing removal and replacement tools, oil seal installation tool for torque tube and axle housing, tool for removing outer race bearing in axle housing, intake mount engine hoist plates, adjustable angle exhaust mount engine stand adaptor, exhaust mount engine storage stand with wheels, spring spreader, Stromberg carburetor throttle bushing removal and installation tools, bolt on engine block legs for block transport or storage, and probably a few I can't remember at the moment. I guess I enjoy making tools to work on my early V-8's almost as much as I enjoy owning and driving them.
Out of the above list, I like the hub/drum puller and the adjustable angle exhaust mount engine stand adaptor the most because I use those the most.
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Old 08-26-2013, 10:54 AM   #20
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On the photoshopped flathead theme...does anyone remember the dual underhead cam flathead block pic that was circulating a few years ago??
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Old 08-26-2013, 05:51 PM   #21
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Bruce, there is a picture of a flathead OHV engine with dual rocker shafts in Tex Smith's flathead book page 198. The engine is part of Bill Smith's collection. Sure looks like OHC engine.
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Old 08-26-2013, 07:16 PM   #22
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Not sure if you are asking about tools made by or for FoMoCo and/or tools that someone has personally made themselves to use while working on their Early Ford V8? The tools I like the most are the ones I have made myself.
Hub/drum puller, steering wheel puller, pinion and pinion bearing removal tool, press on timing gear puller, distributor bearing removal and replacement tools, oil seal installation tool for torque tube and axle housing, tool for removing outer race bearing in axle housing, intake mount engine hoist plates, adjustable angle exhaust mount engine stand adaptor, exhaust mount engine storage stand with wheels, spring spreader, Stromberg carburetor throttle bushing removal and installation tools, bolt on engine block legs for block transport or storage, and probably a few I can't remember at the moment. I guess I enjoy making tools to work on my early V-8's almost as much as I enjoy owning and driving them.
Out of the above list, I like the hub/drum puller and the adjustable angle exhaust mount engine stand adaptor the most because I use those the most.
I'm with John about the tools we make ourselves. My favorite early V8 tool is the porting fixture I built ten years ago. During the half-dozen years I ported flathead blocks on a steel-top, waist-high workbench in Vern Tardel’s shop I figured out that there had to be a more-comfortable, efficient way to do the work than wrestling a heavy iron casting into nearly okay positions and held there with wood wedges while I stooped and stretched to see what I was doing. The rare occasions I had to port a block on one of the two almost-always busy KR Wilson stands in the shop proved no better. In fact, the stands provided fewer opportunities for advantageous positioning than the workbench and the wedges!
I’m a bit embarrassed to admit that it took me so long to think of a two-axis gimbaled fixture and the “nearly infinite” positions available. I had just begun to visualize the fixture when Art Morrison’s chassis-building business began touting their mandrel-bent rectangular-tube hot-rod and racecar frames, and . . . Wham! Big inspiration. A ‘phone call followed with an e-mailed sketch, and I had the foundation for the fixture. Some bits of steel tube and plate, a couple of hole saws and some welding and I had my best-pal flathead tool!


I designed it to fit a universal engine stand because that was my option at the time, and it’s a reasonable scheme for just about anyone. Today it plugs into a socket welded to a steel pole at the end of my porting bay, but it’s as portable as ever. And it’s also very adaptable; I use a trimmed 8BA bell housing to adapt the “late” blocks, and I redrilled the mounting plates to accept V8-60 blocks, taking into account their crank-to-cam centerline differences; blocks are mounted in the fixture along the camshaft centerline to minimize rotational weight bias.


My favorite early V8 tool has also become my favorite Chrysler Hemi head tool and is about to become my favorite for big-block Chevy heads and motorcycle heads as well! It all comes down to a two-axis gimbaled fixture that holds the work in any secure position desired.



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That sure sounds like the after-gaff mainbrace houser we had on the boat a couple years ago
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My Favorite Early Ford V/8 Tool is Herbrand #2360 Ford Motor Jack. It not only raises the Motor & holds it in position but provides the means of turning the motor over while working on the bearings, replacing rings, pistons or any of the Numerous jobs performed with the crankcase off. Remove the Fab Pulley Nut, screw in the threaded bolt into the Crank Shaft & rest the foot of the Tool on the Chassis. An easy turn of the forcing screw raises or lowers the Motor to proper working position. The use of a Conventional Jack is Dangerous. With this Tool, you can make Road repairs easier Ex. changing Water Pumps & Raising the Motor to working on Transmission Problems. Tool Wt. 2 lbs. 6 oz. Height 11". Easley carried in your car to take on Road Trips.
Makes 2 of us that have this tool. Found this thread looking for something else
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Easy. Large straight blade screwdriver. Too useful! Seems like it's in my hand every time I do something around my cars.

It's also a lot lighter than a KR Wilson engine stand, but I'm very envious!
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The engine lifter tool , I have one of those but never new what it was.
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The KRW spring shackle stud remover/installer.
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Easy. Large straight blade screwdriver. Too useful! Seems like it's in my hand every time I do something around my cars.

It's also a lot lighter than a KR Wilson engine stand, but I'm very envious!
And a 5Lb coaxing hammer in the other hand!
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If possible, could someone please post a sketch or photo of how that engine lifting tool is positioned when being used? Can it be used on both 59AB and 8BA style blocks?
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If possible, could someone please post a sketch or photo of how that engine lifting tool is positioned when being used? Can it be used on both 59AB and 8BA style blocks?
Don't think the type engine has much to do with it working but the way the frame cross member is configured does.
Don't know about '49-'53 Ford but looks like it will not work on '49-'51 Merc. due to radiator mount bracket on the center of the frame cross member.
This is my understanding of how it works.
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I would have to say "THIS WEBSITE", it never needs to be oiled and stay's rust free.

Stumphy's Fab works flathead stand adapter, I use it all the time. Scott
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Wasco engine lift. Lifts with transmission or move forward for engine alone.
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These two sonszabitching valve bars in this picture! They're like two bad brothers - sometimes I love em', sometimes I hate em!

I've use the lower one the most (is about 3 feet long) - was made by 'Proto' back in the day. It is a really high quality forged tool, heat treated, etc.

Given the number of engines I've worked on - this would HAVE to be the tool that I've used the most, cussed at the most and fallen in love with, wanted to beat myself half to death with, etc! LOL

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KR Wilson distributor jig is my favorite. It really makes setting up early distributors easy.
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My favorite when all else fails!
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I'm guessing photo-shop is a tool, as well. Ha
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Referring to the V12 pictures shown earlier.
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I like the All Power horse shoe clip puller and the valve assembly wedge knocker to pop them out. If that doesn't work the KD 918 valve guide puller is next. These have helped me get a lot of crusty old flatheads apart with a way lot less trouble. There are others but these are likely the best overall that I have.
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I like the All Power horse shoe clip puller and the valve assembly wedge knocker to pop them out. If that doesn't work the KD 918 valve guide puller is next. These have helped me get a lot of crusty old flatheads apart with a way lot less trouble. There are others but these are likely the best overall that I have.
Agreed. I got all three of those tools as well. It was interesting to see the rod on the knocker off the head for mine broke at the same spot. Never got around to welding it up. The guide knocker is no joke. It once popped a valve assembly that was stuck like glue out of the block and across the garage.
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Here is a close-up picture of the small engine blocks used to lift the Flathead V8, as posted by Flathead37. Notice the notches on the side, so that they don't move once put into position. This pair of blocks belong to Lawrie.
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This would have to be my favorite! I have not used it as much as I enjoying looking at it. A work of art!
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This would have to be my favorite! I have not used it as much as I enjoying looking at it. A work of art!
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What is it or what does it do?
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What is it or what does it do?
Looks like a valve spring pressure checker ? The handle apears to be a torque wrench. If I am correct it is very nice & I have not seen one like this.
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Looks like a valve spring pressure checker ? The handle apears to be a torque wrench. If I am correct it is very nice & I have not seen one like this.
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Yes, that is what it is for. The torque wrench must be the older beam style. You set the spring height then pull down on torque wrench while watching needle. There is an audible “click” when spring pressure is reached.
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This is handy for turning over an engine. As long as the flywheel and bell housing are on...... Mark
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Bringing this great thread back up with a tool that I found my buddy JM 35 Sedan using... It's a timber just about as wide as 600x16 tires with a couple of stoppers added, six by six or eight by eight I don't know for sure. Make four of them! Very easy way to get safe access when you're on level solid ground...

Edit to add: I wish we could use these on the show fields because so many cars ride too low for my fat butt to wiggle under!
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I don't have anything special. just my spring spreader, hub puller, and valve fork.
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The KRW spring shackle stud remover/installer.
My gosh yes! This tool makes this otherwise ugly task a breeze.
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My favorite tool is the one I need at the time I am doing the job.
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I like the All Power horse shoe clip puller and the valve assembly wedge knocker to pop them out. If that doesn't work the KD 918 valve guide puller is next. These have helped me get a lot of crusty old flatheads apart with a way lot less trouble. There are others but these are likely the best overall that I have.
I have these two as well. The wedge knocker literally shot a crusty old guide across the garage after a few good whacks with the weight.

I like the Lee bolt on valve checker. It's just a neat tool to have.
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K.R. Wilson BV-121 spring shackle stud remover/replacer makes a tough job easy (well, relatively easy).
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Here is a close-up picture of the small engine blocks used to lift the Flathead V8, as posted by Flathead37. Notice the notches on the side, so that they don't move once put into position. This pair of blocks belong to Lawrie.
I wish someone would re-cast these. Seems simple enough. I'd love to have one.
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Old 09-08-2018, 10:06 AM   #57
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I think these two have become my new favorites!
They make valve removal a snap!
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