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Old 07-21-2018, 11:33 AM   #1
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With those kind of front fenders, the split windshield, and what appears to be no front brake drums, etc, it looks to me to be a GAZ-MM instead....

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Not a GAZ-AA, the vehicle that saved Leningrad, convoys of GAZ-AA's crossing the frozen lake to help the besieged population survive?
The GAZ MM had a single pane windshield, no doors, and one headlight in addition to no front brakes and the flat welded fenders. It was the Soviet's "Cheap Wartime Version" of the AA.

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They seem to be waiting for a Krasnyi Putilovets Fordson (made in Leningrad) to come to the rescue.

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Not a GAZ-AA, the vehicle that saved Leningrad, convoys of GAZ-AA's crossing the frozen lake to help the besieged population survive?
The GAZ MM had a single pane windshield, no doors, and one headlight in addition to no front brakes and the flat welded fenders. It was the Soviet's "Cheap Wartime Version" of the AA.
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Some of the earlier GAZ-MM's had regular GAZ-AA doors and both split and one piece windshields. The newer GAZ-MM versions lost the doors or had ship-lap wooden doors or even canvas "doors" and the really striped down ones (the newest versions) only had one headlight. Those "developments" were phased in to conserve raw materials and minimize the production costs.





The vehicle in the photo from M2M looks to not have any front brake drums, the welded fenders (vice stamped) and possibly a canvas roof and replacement headlights.

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M2M, have you contacted Jordan B Peterson in Canada about these really great posters. I once saw some for sale at the ROVA (Russian Overseas BVenevolent Assn) Farms flea market but sadly, had no cash on me. JB Peterson collects old soviet posters. I think he lives in Toronto.
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M2M, have you contacted Jordan B Peterson in Canada about these really great posters. I once saw some for sale at the ROVA (Russian Overseas BVenevolent Assn) Farms flea market but sadly, had no cash on me. JB Peterson collects old soviet posters. I think he lives in Toronto.
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Terry, no I've never heard of him. I've a few original posters of my own. You can buy reproductions online:

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Not a GAZ-AA, the vehicle that saved Leningrad, convoys of GAZ-AA's crossing the frozen lake to help the besieged population survive?
The GAZ MM had a single pane windshield, no doors, and one headlight in addition to no front brakes and the flat welded fenders. It was the Soviet's "Cheap Wartime Version" of the AA.
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Some of the earlier GAZ-MM's had regular GAZ-AA doors and both split and one piece windshields. The newer GAZ-MM versions lost the doors or had ship-lap wooden doors or even canvas "doors" and the really striped down ones (the newest versions) only had one headlight. Those "developments" were phased in to conserve raw materials and minimize the production costs.

The vehicle in the photo from M2M looks to not have any front brake drums, the welded fenders (vice stamped) and possibly a canvas roof and replacement headlights.

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The "Is it a GAZ AA or GAZ MM" question is a bit complex, both of you are partly correct. I'll write a detailed reply when I can, but for now note Russians commonly refer to both these trucks as полуторка (meaning: one and half ton trucks). You can see the word полуторка in red on both these kit boxes. Also note the first Ford AA trucks assembled in the USSR were called NAZ-AA (Nizhny-Novgorod Automobile factory). Nizhny Novgorod the city was renamed Gorky in 1932 hence NAZ-AA became GAZ-AA.








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Well, basically the GAZ-MM was just an "improved" GAZ-AA, built in the factory in Molotov (thus the "M" designation), using improvements adopted for primarily wartime use, from the GAZ M-1. The GAZ-MM further morphed over the years, influenced strongly by the shortage of raw materials as WWII waged on: metal doors became wooden doors became canvas/no doors; front brakes were eliminated; one headlight was eliminated; two piece windshield (cheaper to repair if one side got cracked), bumpers eliminated, etc....

Here is a summary (published in 1938) of those initial improvements of the GAZ-AA adopted by the GAZ-MM:


...and checking the GAZ-MM parts book from 1949, you will note that most of the parts still use the GAZ-AA part numbers.....and sure enough a one piece windshield and pressed fenders are also listed:


Hummm....always much to learn about these fascinating vehicles.

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