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Old 08-12-2016, 02:09 AM   #21
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I thought ford made something like this for the Aussie market? You know the one vehicle for church on Sunday work on Monday UTE!
Yes, they did but not in the Model A. The first Coupe/Ute was designed by Lewis Bandt based on the 1933 V8. The request from a farmer who wanted a vehicle he could drive his wife to Church on Sunday in a fully enclosed car and take his pigs to market on Monday We call them Utes in Australia not pickups as you do in the States.
They did produce the Roadster/Ute in the Model A.
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I thought ford made something like this for the Aussie market? You know the one vehicle for church on Sunday work on Monday UTE!
That was a '33 or 34 V8 ute made by one of my wife's ancestors who worked for Ford at the time (Lou Bandt (spelling?)) I have a picture of the very vehicle somewhere - it still exists.
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I thought ford made something like this for the Aussie market? You know the one vehicle for church on Sunday work on Monday UTE!
They did, but not until 1934. You can see an original example and read about its designer, Lew Bandt, here:
http://motor.history.sa.gov.au/colle...-coupe-utility

I grew up in Geelong where Ford Australia assembled and later built cars. I knew Lew Bandt as a lad growing up (me, not Lew!) through my church, where both families attended.

When I was a teenager, Lew restored his own '34 ute and painted it a garish light blue and white. The doors were also emblazoned with fairly ordinary looking pictures of a kookaburra (he was also an artist, of sorts!).

Sadly, Lew was killed in this very same ute. He mistakenly turned the wrong way into a one-way slip lane at a T-intersection on a country road just outside of Geelong and had a head-on.

The apprentices at FoMoCo later rebuilt the ute and it went on display at the Ford Museum in Geelong. It sometimes appeared in parades. On one such occasion, it was carrying prominently the logo of a well known brewer who was also the parade sponsor. This incurred the wrath of my uncle, who was also a draughtsman (I'll spell it our way!) at Ford Geelong. He wrote a scathing letter to the local paper, as both he and Lew were staunch teetotallers!

One of the photos below shows Lew with his restored ute in the front yard of his home in Geelong. Mercifully, the kookaburras are hidden from view!

Lew is commemorated in the naming of a bridge on the Geelong Ring Road.
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Old 08-12-2016, 02:31 AM   #24
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Here's a copy of an advert for the first Aussie Ford ute.
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Old 08-12-2016, 05:53 AM   #25
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"Does not look like a lot would be needed to revert it back to factory."

well, the price is low and it would be nice to see someone save a truck of this rarity-so who's game?

Midget, wasnt so much out to pick this vehicle apart as to mentioning it here in the hopes of someone "saving" it. It is one rare truck.
You know we all need to be "saved" at some point of our lives..........

Hoogah, nice job on the ww's. I hadnt even noticed, as my eyes were under such strain.....
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There has been talk on here before of these deluxe beds being repro'ed in like the eighties. is possible the original 'restorer' cut up a coupe and added a repop bed as opposed to butchering a deluxe pickup?
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Old 08-12-2016, 07:28 AM   #27
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Sad but for every Rod or whatever you call the above, adds to the value of a stock model A.
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Old 08-12-2016, 07:34 AM   #28
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Looks like some MODERN CAR/PICKUPS & they sell like CRAZY!
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There's no real evidence that it was ever a Model 66 Deluxe Pickup (as described in the ad). Looks like someone wanted to make it look like one and did a pretty good job. But no cigar!

When I first saw my Pickup (the one in my avitar), it was described to me as a Model 66 Deluxe Pickup. It, too, has no evidence of ever being a Model 66. It was nicely done, but not an original "Deluxe" pickup.
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Old 08-12-2016, 03:25 PM   #30
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I'm sort of laughing in a good way at the replies regarding this vehicle and how so many hate it vs those who do not.

My wife called me at noon to tell me that a local fellow had a blue fordor sedan for sale at a catfish cafe where we frequently eat here locally. Happens that this same fellow had stopped by my home to admire my pickup a while back when he was at my neighbor's garage sale. I went over to look at the sedan today. He wanted $12,000 and it was in such very sad, sad shape that I felt that his asking price is totally ridiculous, as the cost to restore or to even get it up to snuff would be a goodly pile of money at least. Still, someone else may bite on it, but not my cup of tea for that price.

In comparing those two vehicles to each other, simply because both are supposedly Model A's and at least painted similar colors, as if that mattered, I would see myself taking the modified pickup/coupe in a heartbeat and probably not wasting a single thought as to how original or modified it was in the process. Different strokes for different folks, I suppose.

I always hate to see a car of any make simply wasting away in disrepair and abuse and someone feeling it is worth a million dollars just because of it's age. Making a profit is one thing, but this car was really a sad case and it showed pretty badly.

Me, I like the quirky and oddity of many vehicles and the mods made to them. It is fun to view the Utes and to wonder about their use by the real owners over their lifetimes. Like say, different strokes for different folks and a million and one different tea flavors if one does not suit you in your cup. :-)

I have to admit that the vehicle shown reminds me of some funeral vehicles with the railing on the back bed as shown. Maybe a review of vintage funeral wagons or cars would show some similarity to this one, but I don't know.

Any rate, I enjoyed looking at it, myself. I didn't think the wood in the bed was done so wonderful from what was shown, but otherwise I thought it was interesting and done up pretty good on the body to say the least. Just my opinion though and we know what that is worth. :-)
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"Here is a Very Rare 1931 Model A "Deluxe" pickup model 66."

This first line in his description was not in his original description, I saw the listing minutes after it came online. Someone in ebay land told him what they thought it was.
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Another clue: The e-brake is in front of the shift lever, not on the right side of it.
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I like it. Who ever did the conversion did a good job, just by looking at the pictures. Granted in person it could be a different matter. Didn't a company make a conversion kit in the 40's for the very same thing using a T box? That is the nice thing about our cars, they were heavily modified for personal use. Although I would go back to stock rims. At least he didn't chop it.

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"Does not look like a lot would be needed to revert it back to factory."

well, the price is low and it would be nice to see someone save a truck of this rarity-so who's game?

Midget, wasnt so much out to pick this vehicle apart as to mentioning it here in the hopes of someone "saving" it. It is one rare truck.
You know we all need to be "saved" at some point of our lives..........

Hoogah, nice job on the ww's. I hadnt even noticed, as my eyes were under such strain.....
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No buyers in US ? In France ?

https://www.leboncoin.fr/voitures/10...62.htm?ca=12_s
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Ford DID build one, but BETTER, research the General Electric A's...
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No buyers in US ? In France ?


selling for double the price in France.................

must come with a roll of Camembert!
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Here is a link to the Type 302 Ute from 1932.
True it is not a Coupe Utility, but it is the Type 302 Car Utility.
Original Ford, and predates 1934.

http://www.fordgarage.com/pages/ute302304.htm
The A version looked like this (no box behind the cabin). Plenty of wood with a steel skin. The panels are easy to make.

http://car-from-uk.com/ebay/carphoto...ebay631458.jpg
http://car-from-uk.com/ebay/carphoto...ebay631455.jpg
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I'm sure that it will become somebody's pride and joy. Live and let live.
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That firm advertises a lot of Model As at high prices. I'd always presumed that very few of the cars, if any, are actually in Europe but they are acting as agents for the sellers in the US.
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