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Old 08-13-2016, 10:58 AM   #1
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Default Restoration question,..original seat springs,..28-29 RDSTR

I'm out hunting original seat and back springs, including the seat and back for the rumble (4 different set of springs). I believe the repop springs are not like
the originals..

Anyone have photos and dimensions of ORIGINALS so I can identify them?

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Old 08-13-2016, 11:14 AM   #2
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Snyders builds their springs from original sets. You can send them yours, if different, and they will make new ones from those dimensions.
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Snyders builds their springs from original sets. You can send them yours, if different, and they will make new ones from those dimensions.
Or a call to them to get the original sizes.
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Snyders builds their springs from original sets.
My experience counters this.
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They advertise that you can send them yours for pattern, or draw and send detailed dimensions and spring heights to build yours from. I doubt they will be too far off.
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I agree with Brent. Most of the repro springs seem to use heavier wire, which makes the seat stiffer.
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They advertise that you can send them yours for pattern, or draw and send detailed dimensions and spring heights to build yours from. I doubt they will be too far off.
Again, I understand what you are saying, ...and I also have paid the upcharge to even have them made to the factory print however the spring is still detectable from an original, -even when covered. I even got Don Snyder involved in it, and they made a valiant effort but as Tom stated, the spring rate is not correct for Dudley's roadster. Also, FWIW, their seat spring appears to be manufactured for the LeBaron Bonney cover, ....which is not correct aesthetically or dimensionally either. Giving credit to what you said, I guess it is all in how you define "too far off".
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I've never had the opportunity to sit in a NOS seat fresh from the factory so I wouldn't know the difference. But if they supposedly build to factory specs it would be easy to find where they deviated for whatever reason.
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Also, FWIW, their seat spring appears to be manufactured for the LeBaron Bonney cover, ....which is not correct aesthetically or dimensionally either.
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Again, I understand what you are saying, ...and I also have paid the upcharge to even have them made to the factory print however the spring is still detectable from an original, -even when covered. I even got Don Snyder involved in it, and they made a valiant effort but as Tom stated, the spring rate is not correct for Dudley's roadster. Also, FWIW, their seat spring appears to be manufactured for the LeBaron Bonney cover, ....which is not correct aesthetically or dimensionally either. Giving credit to what you said, I guess it is all in how you define "too far off".
I didn't think this would be too tough a question for all the Roadster's here
on the Barn!?...............at least some photos!
I do know what the rumble seat back looks like,...JUST NOT THE REST!

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I've never had the opportunity to sit in a NOS seat fresh from the factory so I wouldn't know the difference. But if they supposedly build to factory specs it would be easy to find where they deviated for whatever reason.
Well ya!.....................IF you had a set of ORIGINAL springs to view..

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I didn't think this would be too tough a question for all the Roadster's here on the Barn!?...............at least some photos! I do know what the rumble seat back looks like,...JUST NOT THE REST!



Well ya!.....................IF you had a set of ORIGINAL springs to view..

Dudley
Hey Dudley, at this moment the only set of original open car springs I have are at Sturms being upholstered so I am not much help at the moment.

The other issue that defies your logic highlighted above in Red is that nearly all of the truly knowledgeable folks that would have the pictures of authentic or original pieces are have all left here and no longer post info. Someone told me in a phone conversation awhile back that if the ones that have left actually deleted all the info they posted, there wouldn't be much here worth coming for. I'll reserve my opinion on that topic but IMO what you need is an original seat for you to use as a sample to compare to.
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I didn't think this would be too tough a question for all the Roadster's here
on the Barn!?...............at least some photos!
I do know what the rumble seat back looks like,...JUST NOT THE REST!



Well ya!.....................IF you had a set of ORIGINAL springs to view..

Dudley
Even though Snyder's might not build 100% authentic springs for your car, did you call them and ask if they had the information you need?
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Old 08-16-2016, 10:27 AM   #13
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Even though Snyder's might not build 100% authentic springs for your car, did you call them and ask if they had the information you need?
Mike,..to be upfront,..no.
I have looked at there site. All the DRAWINGS are for Model T's,...no photos.
No drawings or photos for A's and later cars.
Hell,..at this point l'll take photos and measurements of repops..
This whole exercise should be a "no brainier"..
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Mike,..to be upfront,..no.
I have looked at there site. All the DRAWINGS are for Model T's,...no photos.
No drawings or photos for A's and later cars.
Hell,..at this point l'll take photos and measurements of repops..
This whole exercise should be a "no brainier"..
Just call them and ask. If I'm wrong and they can't help you are out less time then it takes to look up this thread and type and answer. If they do know your problem is solved. How many days since you asked your question, three?
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