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Old 01-08-2022, 10:40 PM   #1
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I took this photo in a junk yard some time ago and i can't remember what car it was. I think its a 289 but their are no shock towers in the engine bay. Looks like around a 66? What do you think. sorry having problems uploading, last line. its not uploading. sorry no way to delete
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Old 01-08-2022, 11:02 PM   #2
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A picture would help?
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Without shock towers it will be a full frame car and if it came with 289 would place it between 63 and 67 Full size Ford. Mercury kept the 390 till 72.
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. . . sorry having problems uploading, last line. its not uploading. ...
The "File Size" of the image has to be just under 2MB to upload it as an attachment. You may have to create a resized copy of the original (digital) photo.

There is at least one other way to include photos but I haven't gone that route yet.

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I took this photo in a junk yard some time ago and i can't remember what car it was. I think its a 289 but their are no shock towers in the engine bay. Looks like around a 66? What do you think. sorry having problems uploading, last line. its not uploading. sorry no way to delete
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hopefully sending a e-mail to one of you guys in hopes of having the photo posted. very interested in what you will see. purhaps i am missing something.
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email send. sorry for the delay was working late.
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Can you ID this Ford ? Question by Scott.
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Old 01-09-2022, 10:40 PM   #9
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Paetsgone, thanks for sending the picture, and I sent it to Trevor (Mercman)
and he worked his magic and got it posted for you. Thanks Trev.


I wonder if that is a 352 engine in a full size Ford car or maybe pickup.
I can't tell for sure. Some others will chime in here to help identify it.

With that old round single brake master cylinder should help identify the year.



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Old 01-09-2022, 10:57 PM   #10
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Thanks, hope this will be fun to id just from the engine bay.
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Old 01-09-2022, 11:24 PM   #11
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It's not a 63 Galaxie. Mine had the washer bag on the right. And definitely not a 289.
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Old 01-10-2022, 12:16 AM   #12
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There was a 1966 convertible 4 speed mustang parked next to it. I remember that one. Had couguar taillights mounted and another set laying inside.
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Old 01-10-2022, 02:24 AM   #13
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It is an FE, most likely LT (352-360-390 2V) as you see how the oil filter is mounted horizontally.

Pre-1967 chassis with SGL RSVR MC (but has an ALT INSTALL - 65/ ).

I would guess GALAXY - CUSTOM.

It was a PASS CAR and not pickup?
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its an fe as was said.going by the rocker covers its a 66 or later 390 as that was the only fe using a 2 bbl carb at this time.
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66 was the last year for the single master cylinder.if the motor is original it should be 66.
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Looks pu by the inner fender and support for the hood hinge.
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Old 01-10-2022, 07:23 AM   #17
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is that a good engine to build. I thought it was a small block 289.
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if its a pickup maybe a 352.i was thinking a galaxie.
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Old 01-10-2022, 09:01 AM   #19
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Looks pu by the inner fender and support for the hood hinge.
That's what I think but he said car ...
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352 engines were almost as common as 390s. It doesn't have the coolant reservoir attached to the coolant thermostat housing of the manifold and it has an alternator so it's likely 65 or 66. No power brakes or steering so it's a basic model. Likely a 352 unless it's a pickup. An F100 could have either engine. The 360 came out for 1968 & later.
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It looks pick up to me too. I thought only the trucks used the horizontally mounted oil filter.
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was not a pickup i recall. thanks to all for pitching in. scott
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It's a 352 in a 65-66 F100
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It's a 352 in a 65-66 F100. The angled oil filter, hand choke and flat top valve covers are the indicators
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If the alternator and carb/intake are original...., I believe alternators started in 64 1/2 or '65. The carb appears to be a four barrel 4100 and the style accel pump cover that was used after '64. Definately an FE engine. My Guess is a '65 or '66 Galaxie with a 390, since 352's didn't use a four barrel carb after 1960.

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It's a 352 in a 65-66 F100. The angled oil filter, hand choke and flat top valve covers are the indicators
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Good catch on the manual choke. At first look I thought the choke assembly was just missing. Also thought V8 trucks had auto chokes in '66 ? Could be wrong.

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Hey Scott, is there a chance you could go out and snap a picture of'
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Sal, I've had a '65, '66, and a '67 F100. All were original 352's with manual choke 2100's, alternators and the squared top valve covers. This photo is definitely a pickup from those 3 years. In '68 the pickups got a 360, 2100 with an auto choke and the rounded, Powered by Ford valve covers. I just don't have a picture of any of my old rigs to verify it
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Sal, I've had a '65, '66, and a '67 F100. All were original 352's with manual choke 2100's, alternators and the squared top valve covers. This photo is definitely a pickup from those 3 years. In '68 the pickups got a 360, 2100 with an auto choke and the rounded, Powered by Ford valve covers. I just don't have a picture of any of my old rigs to verify it

Good info Craig. This engine has a 4100 4 barrel. That's why I'm leaning towards a 390. Chances are the carb and intake have been chaged after all theses years. I don't know if a 390 was ever offered in a truck ?

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Take another look Sal, I can see the rear of the mounting flange, and I can't see anything that looks like the secondary throttle plate activator rod that would be on a 4100
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Take another look Sal, I can see the rear of the mounting flange, and I can't see anything that looks like the secondary throttle plate activator rod that would be on a 4100
If you look closely over the top of the choke plate, you can see one of the screws that holds down the rear of the bowl cover for the rear barrels, plus part of the boss for the vacuum passage to the secondary diaphragm.
All I can say is someone must have disabled the rear two barrels by removing the rod that comes from the diaphragm lever.

Actually, after a better look I can see the tip of the sec. diaphragm lever. Not to mention one of the secondary bowl vent tubes sticking up.

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Are you sure you are not looking at a 2100?
Pretty sure, since I can see one of the rear screws that hold the bowl cover down on the secondary side.

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As others have mentioned, those are truck inner fenders. I agree with craig narrowing it down to 65 or 66.
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Sal, take a look at this carb. I think the castings at the rear are what you think are screws Whoops, no picture!

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Sal, go to this site and you'll see the picture
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I thought it looked like a 2100 as well. As I remember only the 289 HiPo's were the only 4100 that have manual chokes. And its not a 289! Hard to tell what the carb is for sure.
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Friends & family owned Galaxies, LTD, and Mercury Monterey cars in 65 & 66 and I spent time working on them. They don't look like the one in the photo for sure. My Pop had a 66 Ford F100 that looked a lot like what's in the photo. They had the twin I beam front ends.
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Sal, go to this site and you'll see the picture
At this point I see arguments for a 2100 and a 4100. Probably doesn't matter at this point as parts can be changed over all those years.

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thanks again. i will return in time and update if anyone is interested. i really don't remember it to be a pickup but i have no memory left.
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thanks again. i will return in time and update if anyone is interested. i really don't remember it to be a pickup but i have no memory left.

Scott, I think your main objective here, was to find out if this engine looks
to be a 289, and if it looks like a candidate for "rebuilding", Right ?

The members here have joined in and gave you a lot of input. It's NOT a
289, It is an "FE" big block engine, and one that has laid out in the
elements way too long with that wide open carb. That engine is probably
filled to the brim with water and rusted-up to the point where it is NOT a
good candidate for rebuilding.

I'm sure you can find a rebuildable 289 fairly easy, by placing some want ads in your area...
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Perhaps just a misplaced photo. I have an entire box of photos from the past and no one looks familiar since anyone that could identify is long gone.
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Perhaps just a misplaced photo. I have an entire box of photos from the past and no one looks familiar since anyone that could identify is long gone.

Ha. I feel you. I somehow wound up being the keeper of pics. I'm also the youngest of the cousins & born late to my parents - also have boxes of unidentifiable people.
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Carb has me stumped. Looks like 2100 except the front bowl seems huge. I'll have my son look at it.

edit: Was looking at the bowl wrong. I was seeing the front of the carb and thinking it was the top of a large bowl.

It's def a 2100. Son brought out the last 2100 he bought (yesterday I think) to compare.

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as soon as i can i will get back there and give you the word. Sure sounds like you guys have narrowed it to a pickup.
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