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rich b · 04-23-2022, 09:48 AM

Anybody have an idea what these were for; or if they are even Ford parts.

The parts may resemble late '50s interior handles.

They fit over door and window crank splines and snap into place with an internal spring.

Part number 1A-18333 9280

marko39 · 04-23-2022, 11:53 AM

Could they be used when car was equipped with electric windows?

Jerold Ebke · 04-23-2022, 08:53 PM

Maybe early version of child proof windows or doors. 😃

maneri · 04-23-2022, 11:45 PM

to remove rear inside door handles --GM - child proof -

5851a · 04-24-2022, 10:47 AM

I believe as others was early form of child lock outs. My Dad installed a set on our 56 Mercury 4 door rear doors when my little brother became a toddler.

KULTULZ · 04-24-2022, 05:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rich b

Anybody have an idea what these were for; or if they are even Ford parts.

The parts may resemble late '50s interior handles.

They fit over door and window crank splines and snap into place with an internal spring.

Part number 1A-18333 9280

Quote:

Originally Posted by marko39

Could they be used when car was equipped with electric windows?

GIVE THE MAN A CUPIE DOLL - WE HAVE A WINNER!

Shown On 1954 FORD -

scicala · 04-24-2022, 06:55 PM

My guess would be for the back doors of a police car.

Sal

rich b · 04-25-2022, 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KULTULZ

GIVE THE MAN A CUPIE DOLL - WE HAVE A WINNER!

Shown On 1954 FORD -

Thank you! Great info on a pretty obscure part.

KULTULZ · 04-25-2022, 01:14 AM

It surprised me. I had no idea of how and why.

BASIC PN 18333 is also used for the rear door safety lock kits but they secure the lock knob(s).

1A 18333 was deleted from the 1949/59 FORD MPC FINAL ISSUE.

PREFIX 1A translate to 51 FORD.

5851a · 04-25-2022, 10:22 AM

Just curious if that part is different from the power window crank hole cover. There would be no splined crank handle shaft on power windows. Wonder how they attached it to the door panel? Just asking because has me thinking. 54 first year for power windows for Ford since the Sportsman but 51 part number. Now I'll not sleep since I don't have any books that go past 65.

GLAmes · 04-25-2022, 06:05 PM

I still have the original door panels for my '54 with electric windows. The driver's side has a hole corresponding to where the window crank handle would be as does the passenger door. There could be other applications I'm sure. However, that puts me in a dilemma. Trying to restore this car as close to original as possible I have just learned I need more pieces. @ rich b, do you have two for sale? p.s. I have the doors from a '54 merc that had power windows. One of them has a medallion with, I'm guessing, an early Merc design. It has a holder that attaches to the panel. Those doors will be for sale pretty soon. Only difference from a hardtop '54 is the holes for the outside stainless trim.

KULTULZ · 04-25-2022, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GLAmes

I still have the original door panels for my '54 with electric windows. The driver's side has a hole corresponding to where the window crank handle would be as does the passenger door. There could be other applications I'm sure. However, that puts me in a dilemma. Trying to restore this car as close to original as possible I have just learned I need more pieces. @ rich b, do you have two for sale?

TRY HERE - https://forums.aaca.org/topic/358232...953-1954-1955/

paul2748 · 04-25-2022, 07:07 PM

To keep everything simple (and cheap) The holes may have been in the backing board regardless of power or non power windows (back then, power windows were fairly rare). If power windows, the material would cover the holes for manual window cranks. On some back boards, I have seen the partially stamped outline of an option that was possible but not on the particular car.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GLAmes

I still have the original door panels for my '54 with electric windows. The driver's side has a hole corresponding to where the window crank handle would be as does the passenger door. There could be other applications I'm sure. However, that puts me in a dilemma. Trying to restore this car as close to original as possible I have just learned I need more pieces. @ rich b, do you have two for sale? p.s. I have the doors from a '54 merc that had power windows. One of them has a medallion with, I'm guessing, an early Merc design. It has a holder that attaches to the panel. Those doors will be for sale pretty soon. Only difference from a hardtop '54 is the holes for the outside stainless trim.

GLAmes · 04-25-2022, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paul2748

To keep everything simple (and cheap) The holes may have been in the backing board regardless of power or non power windows (back then, power windows were fairly rare). If power windows, the material would cover the holes for manual window cranks. On some back boards, I have seen the partially stamped outline of an option that was possible but not on the particular car.

Yes, the backing boards have stamped holes and the fabric has holes in it also, both the Ford's and the Merc's. Of course, the ones from the Ford have nothing in them. I can post pictures of the Merc panel that has the medallion, front and back, tomorrow as well as the original Ford panel.

KULTULZ · 04-26-2022, 01:24 AM

Quote:

... the ones from the Ford have nothing in them. I can post pictures of the Merc panel that has the medallion, front and back, tomorrow as well as the original Ford panel.

If you could as the FINAL ISSUE MPC has all of this deleted.

KULTULZ · 04-26-2022, 08:45 AM

IF ...

... this part had more than one use, it's description has been deleted from the MPC. If there was no driveshaft on the regulator, (or FORD used the same regulator), there must be (have been) a retainer to hold that piece to the trim panel.

GLAmes · 04-26-2022, 10:05 AM

This is the panel from the Merc.

GLAmes · 04-26-2022, 10:08 AM

From the Ford. On the outside you can see an imprint of something circular and on the inside the imprint of whatever held it in place.

GLAmes · 04-29-2022, 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KULTULZ

TRY HERE - https://forums.aaca.org/topic/358232...953-1954-1955/

Thanks for the link but they are no longer available.

KULTULZ · 04-29-2022, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GLAmes

From the Ford. On the outside you can see an imprint of something circular and on the inside the imprint of whatever held it in place.

... hmmph ...

It appears it (ornament) had the same inside retainer(s) as the MERC ornament.

THANX! for the photos, muchly appreciated ...

Just might have to rethink this ...

04-23-2022, 11:53 AM	#2
marko39 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: harpursville ny Posts: 1,040	Re: Inside door handle deletes Could they be used when car was equipped with electric windows?

04-23-2022, 08:53 PM	#3
Jerold Ebke Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Nebraska Posts: 49	Re: Inside door handle deletes Maybe early version of child proof windows or doors. 😃

04-23-2022, 11:45 PM	#4
maneri Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: cleveland ohio Posts: 52	Re: Inside door handle deletes to remove rear inside door handles --GM - child proof -

04-24-2022, 10:47 AM	#5
5851a Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: NE Iowa Posts: 1,664	Re: Inside door handle deletes I believe as others was early form of child lock outs. My Dad installed a set on our 56 Mercury 4 door rear doors when my little brother became a toddler.

04-24-2022, 06:55 PM	#7
scicala Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Detroit suburb, MI Posts: 3,706	Re: Inside door handle deletes My guess would be for the back doors of a police car. Sal

04-25-2022, 01:14 AM	#9
KULTULZ Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: IN A 'GALAXIE' FAR FAR AWAY Posts: 6,475	Re: Inside door handle deletes It surprised me. I had no idea of how and why. BASIC PN 18333 is also used for the rear door safety lock kits but they secure the lock knob(s). 1A 18333 was deleted from the 1949/59 FORD MPC FINAL ISSUE. PREFIX 1A translate to 51 FORD. __________________ *** - WHY IS IT ... - ... that everything you buy in the grocery store is either wrapped in or contained in plastic but the government doesn't want you to carry it out in a plastic bag? WONDERING IN W(BY GOD)V ... DIAGNOSED CDO** - (OCD In Correct Alphabetical Order)

04-25-2022, 10:22 AM	#10
5851a Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: NE Iowa Posts: 1,664	Re: Inside door handle deletes Just curious if that part is different from the power window crank hole cover. There would be no splined crank handle shaft on power windows. Wonder how they attached it to the door panel? Just asking because has me thinking. 54 first year for power windows for Ford since the Sportsman but 51 part number. Now I'll not sleep since I don't have any books that go past 65.

04-25-2022, 06:05 PM	#11
GLAmes Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: Killeen, TX Posts: 246	Re: Inside door handle deletes I still have the original door panels for my '54 with electric windows. The driver's side has a hole corresponding to where the window crank handle would be as does the passenger door. There could be other applications I'm sure. However, that puts me in a dilemma. Trying to restore this car as close to original as possible I have just learned I need more pieces. @ rich b, do you have two for sale? p.s. I have the doors from a '54 merc that had power windows. One of them has a medallion with, I'm guessing, an early Merc design. It has a holder that attaches to the panel. Those doors will be for sale pretty soon. Only difference from a hardtop '54 is the holes for the outside stainless trim. __________________ '54 Skyliner. Restoration in progress.

04-26-2022, 08:45 AM	#16
KULTULZ Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: IN A 'GALAXIE' FAR FAR AWAY Posts: 6,475	Re: Inside door handle deletes IF ... ... this part had more than one use, it's description has been deleted from the MPC. If there was no driveshaft on the regulator, (or FORD used the same regulator), there must be (have been) a retainer to hold that piece to the trim panel. __________________ *** - WHY IS IT ... - ... that everything you buy in the grocery store is either wrapped in or contained in plastic but the government doesn't want you to carry it out in a plastic bag? WONDERING IN W(BY GOD)V ... DIAGNOSED CDO** - (OCD In Correct Alphabetical Order)