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Old 01-17-2012, 09:40 PM   #1
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I just aquired a 29 CCPU, in unrestored condition. I have a few questions. It has a welled fender on the driver side with bracket for spare. Was this an option? If so, what was the majority on pu's that had it versus pu's that didn't? It has what appears to be a "boot" around the shifter. Was this a factory part? It also has a two armed bracket going from the dash rail to the column, I have never seen this version and it looks factory. Pickup also didn't have rear bumpers correct as this has none. As far as I can tell, the only body work it needs is some new cab corners due to multiple dents, mostly toward the top towards the roof. Should I try to find originals or is there an aftermarket corner that is "spot on" like an original. Thanks.
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Old 01-17-2012, 09:55 PM   #2
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I am using cab corners I bought from Mac's who bought them from Howell's. They are OK but if you can find a decent pair of originals you might be better off. They need a little work to make fit right and that time might be better spent on fixing a pair of original ones. Where they spot welded the curved section to the short back panel will need a fair amount of time spent in hiding the spot welds.

The drivers side welled fender I thought was standard equipment on them but others may know for sure.
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Thanks flatford39, I will never use Howell's panels again, long story so I'll get on to the originals, there is not rot whatsover, just dents a plenty. Should I try to straighten out the originals? I could do that but it would take a ton of time.
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Old 01-18-2012, 08:02 PM   #4
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Yeah, I see them on ebay. Wonder if Berts in Denver has any originals? So welled fenders were standard on pickups? Would it be a bad idea to remove it? I hate the look of spare tires in the fenders.
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Old 01-18-2012, 08:14 PM   #5
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I believe all or nearly all CCPU's had a welled fender as there was no place else to store the spare (except the bed which was use to haul stuff). I have heard that there were some CCPU's that had a welled fender on the right side. I believe they were originally AT&T pickups that for some reason didn't want the spare on the left side. I don't know if the story is true or not. I have a 29 CCPU and I am going to use a right side welled fender so I can get in and out of the pickup easier.
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Is there any room to mount one under the bed?? I just really like plain jain model a's, in particular 29's. I think a car should be equal on both sides and when a spare is used, it throws everything off in my eyes. The steering column drop is still throwing me though. It is being picked up tomorrow so I am getting excited. Should have it in a week or so.
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As Rusty said, the left front fender is the factory spare storage spot, and just to stay original I'd leave it there. My 31 T/S came with the spare in the right front fender and has a plain left fender. I'll leave it that way, as I'm not going to restore the car. I have seen guys make a rack under the pickup bed and stick the spare tire there.
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I will when it gets here. Should be shipping from Cali to Michigan this week.
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Old 01-19-2012, 01:35 PM   #10
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My late, (23/12/28), 28 CCPU also has the bracket from the dash to the steering colum. It is a 31 feature that fits the early models to bypass the bracket on the gas tank that always cracks the gas tank from pulling yourself into the cab. It was needed even more on the trucks than the cars due to the amount of in and out movement of working guys using truck on the job. It is a good fix.
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Here is a picture I have from the internet that the old owners sent me.

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Old 01-19-2012, 06:43 PM   #12
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If the other cab corner is as good as the one shown than you are much better off trying to fix the original. The center panels from Howell's that Mac's and others sell are actually pretty good. The T strips that hold the corners to the center are next to impossible to find in good shape so take care of yours. What kind of headlights are those and is that an additional drum tailight on the passenger side???

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It has some blc headlights on it from the 30's but it comes with the originals. It does have a additional taillight on the passenger side. It has a original chrome grill on it but the correct black grill that it was made with was included. I was just informed by the driver that it has been loaded up and will be to me in Michigan on Monday. Very exciting.
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Fix the original sheet metal. A good body person can do it and it will look like new.
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It looks good just like it is. If it was mine, I would be tempted to leave it like it is and only do whatever was necessary to make it a dependable driver. A high compression head and a pair of updrafts never hurt.
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Looks like your questions have been answered so I'll just say that's a sweet old truck. I had a late-30 years ago but I always liked the earlier square cabs.
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was that on ebay a couple weeks ago?
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Old 01-20-2012, 07:31 PM   #18
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I mounted one under the bed on my 31 wide bed, I saw a drawing of how tha AA was mounted under a stake bed and basically copied it. It fit real good but I dont know about the smaller box. It hinges in the front and when I unlatch the rear it just drops down and you can take the wheel right out. Im in pinckney mi. 734-878-6290
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Thanks for the info Ed, where did you find the pic of the AA? Yes, it was on Ebay just before Christmas, showed it to the wife and she liked it alot so it was a no brainer for me. Plus, I am getting some pictures of it from the 50's when it was on the old owners childhood ranch. Can't wait.
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Just got the pictures from the old owners today. They took them on Thursday when it was getting loaded up in Cali.


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That pickup looks too nice to be on an open transport catching all the road salt.
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Yeah but it was all I could afford after paying for it. She will get a bath as soon as she gets here.
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I love these old cars trucks with vintage patina, especially trucks. I agree with Purdy. Leave it as is. I had a 29 coupe once that had great patina; I went all through the mechanics and put new upholstery in it, but otherwise left the exterior looking old. You can't duplicate that look. I saw the car later and the new owner had done a body, fender and paint job on it. It looked just like every other restored 29 coupe. Ah well, his car, his choice.
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Imagine the looks that truck is going to get traveling across the country.
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My coupe did it back in 09, I can only imagine.
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My Dad's Model A was a '28 pickup and I guess I was imprinted by that thing somehow. No other Model A looks as good to me. One day I'll bet I'll be putting that thing back together in my garage and wishing he was around to help me.
Congrats on the great A.

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Just got word from the driver that they are stuck in Wyoming, apparently high winds and icy conditions are slowing them down. Looks like it is going to be here Tuesday now. I will keep you posted.
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If I got a truck that looked that good I'd do a mechanical and leave the rest looking like an old truck.
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He did mention a hill that they were waiting to go up because no trucks could get up it.
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He did mention a hill that they were waiting to go up because no trucks could get up it.
Hope everyone gets to Michigan safe and sound!

Did you get insurance for the hauling of your CCPU?

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If I would have known earlier, I would have offered to transport your vehicle in my enclosed trailer.

Of course, since the CCPU is my second favorite Model A body style, I might have been tempted to by-pass Michigan and deliver it to my Garage M'Hal in Ontario.

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I gotta tell ya, this had been the most aggravating deal I have ever done. I hopefully will have the truck tomorrow, weather permitting but a nice 48 degrees here in Michigan. I had to go through 3 different companies to get this truck here. First was a flake that kept saying it will get picked up tomorrow, that lasted two weeks, second company said it will be picked up in 4 days, after 13 days they said it was taking so long because of where the truck is located, Placerville, Ca? Ok, now the 3rd guy Chad is who is hauling her home. I bought this truck on Dec. 20 of last year. I am so excited about it.
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Well, she's here!!! I am very happy with the truck, it does have it's dented up fenders but I am just going to hamer and dolly everything the best I can and call it good. First rule of business is to get her running, and safe to drive. I am so amazed at how fast it was to find the plant code, looks like it was stamped yesterday! Another funny thing, the plates on the truck are from 1977, the year before I was born. Also found regisration papers in the cab dating back to 1964. 82 years in California, now in good old Michigan.



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My wife thought the A looked fake in this picture and it is a funny pick because of how small it looks.

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Your wife was right. Looks like your Model A could almost fit in the sleeper! Both are nice looking trucks. Nice to see it was tucked in behind the cab as it wouldn't get much road salt there.
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I see the mirror is bounted mid-way on the doorpost. If that is the original location this could be an early 1930 which used the 1929 sheetmetal. Does it have the 1929 or 1930 type steering wheel?
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She's a beauty! Looks like I must have the Kuz'n to yours since our license plates are so close. My body number is SFAA (San Francisco) but 3 digits and a late Nov '29 engine number. Here's a photo from 1978 before it became the pile of parts it is now, ha ha. Where in CA was it located?
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Wow Dan, that is a close number on the plates! It was in Placerville. It has the D-nuts in the post still so not that is not the original mirror location.
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From what I think that I see in the picture it may be an early 30 The gas cap looks like the tab style. All 29 models had the threaded gas cap The early 30 models used the 30-31 style steering and steering wheel, 30-31 style front bumper and the head lights have been changed so you can't tell there. The april 30 that I had, the mirror was mounted mounted mid way of the pillar.. None of that matters Its still purdy .
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Well that explains the plates, it was in my hometown of Placerville (Hangtown).
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Sure looks like a 1929 to me...look at the gas cap very closely.

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I zoomed in and it does look like a 29 gas cap. Its hard to tell at first glance.
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It's a 29, has the original engine in it and it is 5-01-29. It has the original steering wheel and column, both 29 items. It came with two crazy looking air filters from way back. One is on it and the other is in an old Montgomery Wards box. This is fun!
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Couple more questions, it appears the truck was a little worse than the owner described regarding the drivers side door and cab conrner. Apparently is was put in a ditch in the 50's when the owner had a few too many and he said the door got bent up. Okay, it came with an extra drivers door so no problem. I got a good chance to inspect it today and the accident did a little more than was reported. The mirror got ripped off the front post and ripped one of the d-nuts out which caused a prety good size dent. The top of the door is missing and the door itself is very out of square. The door post wood is broke about 5 inches down from the roof and the wood rail from the front to the back over the door is broke in half just before the rear edge of the door. The cab corner is really dented up and tweaked. The rest of the truck is really, really nice. I really don't want to use an aftermarket cab corner, I am going to replace the wood and the door with the other green one and patch in the paint. I like the old weathered girl. Where would I find an original cab corner?? The rest is just wood and tiny stuff.
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Couple more questions, it appears the truck was a little worse than the owner described regarding the drivers side door and cab conrner. Apparently is was put in a ditch in the 50's when the owner had a few too many and he said the door got bent up. Okay, it came with an extra drivers door so no problem. I got a good chance to inspect it today and the accident did a little more than was reported. The mirror got ripped off the front post and ripped one of the d-nuts out which caused a prety good size dent. The top of the door is missing and the door itself is very out of square. The door post wood is broke about 5 inches down from the roof and the wood rail from the front to the back over the door is broke in half just before the rear edge of the door. The cab corner is really dented up and tweaked. The rest of the truck is really, really nice. I really don't want to use an aftermarket cab corner, I am going to replace the wood and the door with the other green one and patch in the paint. I like the old weathered girl. Where would I find an original cab corner?? The rest is just wood and tiny stuff.
I would start with Bert's in Denver.

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Just called Bert's and Steve says he has a couple sets of originals so he is going to go look and grab me the nicest one. The original on my truck is just too beat up to restore. too many folds and creases.
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Is the interior original? If so, it would be great to see some photos.
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Hi Vanspeed,
I have a friend here in Florida who has the cab corners you may be looking for. If you are interested he wants $150. for the pair. If you give your email or call me at 321.454.4490 I can send pictures of them. They came off a Ohio CCPU that he is modifying with 6" extension corners to give him more leg room, so he has no use for them.
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Thanks Bill, I will give you a call. Interior is mostly gone, there are parts of the original door panels hanging on, the back of the cab interior is there under the map pockets but it is crusty.
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If you don't want the cab corners I would be interested in them. I also need at least the upper center panel. Mine was used as a pickup and the back of the cab and box is pretty beat up.
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I bought the cab panels from Bill's friend but I did get someone on here that pm'd me saying he has all the back panels. I will try to find his name for you.
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Thanks. It would be nice to find some original metal instead of buying new.

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His original back metal is in the for sale section but it is pricey - 500.00 His user name is poweredbylincoln
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Nice looking truck. My Huckster started out as a 1929 CCPU when my cousin gave it to me back in the 50's. But when I got it there were many missing parts and it was not together. So in the 50's I tore it apart more-cut the top off the cab, through away the fenders, plus a number of other abusive things and it sat in our barn till 2009 when I rebuilt it as a Huckster.

BTW I have a set of 29 headlights that are in fair shape but they are not painted black like the CCPU should be. If you are interested, PM me.

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Thanks Fred but I did find a correct set of commercial lights locally and they are already on the truck. Also a correct original commercial grill is now on it!
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I went today and picked up the new motor for the pickup. The original motor is in pieces and I think it needs a rebuild so I picked up this running motor for 300.00. It looks like it is in pretty good shape. I am going to strip it down and paint it the correct ford green and paint the rest the correct colors. Might do a gasket set too. Just looked up the motor number and it is a 1930, around septmeber.

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Looks like a interesting motor. If I recall, they said that rebuilt motors back a few years were painted blue. So if that is true, it was rebuilt somewhere along the line. Good luck with getting your pickup up and running.

I just did the same thing. I picked up a running motor for my coupe. Don't know what I will do with it yet. May have a guy the knows much more than I do about this sort of thing, take it apart to see how it is. Then put in in the coupe.
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I do not know if it was rebuilt but it came from a member on here from California and I called him and he said he did see the motor running, and it did not smoke or knock. He said it ran good but dripped a little oil. The truck came with a complete gasket set so I am going to use it. As far as I know, these are the correct colors, correct me if I am wrong:

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Engine block, head, goose neck, water outlet, waterpump, pulley and intake.

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Pan, oil return tube, distributor case, carb, starter and generator.

Also going to make all the bolts heads natural, not painted.
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Put an aluminum 2-blade fan on it & it will look more original & make it easy to change WP in future.
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Love the truck, makes me wish my recent purchase was here, no ETA yet, bummer. Good luck and keep the pics coming!!
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Put an aluminum 2-blade fan on it & it will look more original & make it easy to change WP in future.
I took a big gamble and put a 4 blade fan on my coupe. I did not want to take the radiator loose and wanted to put on a new water pump. So I bought a 4 blade fan that bolted to the hub and thus I could put the blades on after I installed the water pump which had the hub installed. Like I said, if those 4 bolts that hold the fan to the hub come out, I will have a bit of a problem. But for now it does the job I need.
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I have two of these 4 blade fans, one is for the roadster and the other is for the pickup. My coupe is still running the factory 2 blade ( I know, I know) but it shows no signs of failure so it is staying. The truck came with the original 2 blade fan that you can tell has failed in the past because of old welding marks, maybe I should run it? Just kidding. Motor is going to get done over this next weekend so I should have updates soon. I have also ordered all new wood for the top even though some is still good and a new driver side door post, the rest of the wood in the cab is fine.
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Beautiful truck, nice find, buy one of those oil sprays such as WD40 and put it to the paint...
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I am going to do just that, I wipe my coupe down about twice a year and it stays just how I got it. I might be crazy but I love the look of unrestored A's.
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Got the engine on the stand today, had to modify the arms to bolt the engine up and remove the flywheel but it is ready for her rebirth this weekend.

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I would highly recommend the side adaptor.
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dont want ot hijack the thread -BUT. here is a pix of my '28 pickup with the wheel well showing on the right side. She (Tillie) is being redone and that is why the bed has been removed. The Rear Corners are being replaced and the two Rear Center Panels are being reworked.

Chassi had been redone complete with new Rear End and new Engine. Chassi work was easy and fast. The body work is ssslllooowww and my patience runs thin.
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Very nice Ken, I love it. That was the same colors as mine was originally. Alot of trucks must have been green.
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Very nice Ken, I love it. That was the same colors as mine was originally. Alot of trucks must have been green.
I think you are correct about the color. My current Huckster which was a 29 CCPU in it's early life, had the same color green in back of the dash pannel when I took it off. Everything else was rusty!
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What color is the oil filler pipe and cap supposed to be? Black or green?
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Black, but the cap could also be cad plated or plain.
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Got some work done today on the engine. it looks really nice inside, very clean. Cam looks new with no wear. I started putting it back togther today, I know some things are probably incorrect but I think it is going to look great in the truck. Going to finish up on the oil pan and intake/exhaust manifolds tomorrow.

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NICE!!!! Like new.
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The engine looks nice, but be carefull of that STOP sign leaning against the wall. It must be radioactive the way it's glowing!
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Nice looking engine, but just as nice arealll the signs in the background.

BTW. The color on my truck above is commercial color fron PPG "Central Freight Lines Green". The Central Freight Commercial mix was half the cost of the same color custom mixed. The paint job was done in the early 80"s.

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The engine is DONE! The carb checked out to be ok so it was painted and bolted up. Can't wait until I get it in the truck. Taking the generator in to get tested but it looked good. Ken, those signs are just a small fraction that i have, most are original and the majority are on the side of my house overlooking my deck, to provide something to look at when we have people over.
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Here are some pics from today. I do not have a sandblaster or else I would have blasted the exhaust manifold but I figure it will be ok.


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It looks very nice. The crank pulley is also engine green if you want to paint it.
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Thanks Tom, I will pull it off tomorrow and paint it. Also, I have 4 different generators that came with the engine. Two have posts coming out for the cutoff, two have two wires coming out of a hole? I checked my coupe and it has a post so I am going to run one of them. The two that have wires coming out alos have different back covers and they have alot of holes in them? What are the two that have the wires coming out instead of the post?
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Don't know if this is what you would want to do or if it is the wrong thing to do, but I painted my manifold with an aluminum heat resistant paint. Looks great and has stayed on. But it may be a little late for you to do that. I am not an expert on colors so that type of paint on a manifold may not be by the book but it does look nice. My huckster is just a driver so did not matter for me.
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I could easily do that Fred, I am not a "points" person. I am going to go to napa in the morning and see if they have a cast engine paint. I would like it alot better than what it looks like now and to remove and repaint it is not much work.
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I've had good luck and like the looks of VHT brand high temp paint called "NEW CAST". It looks just like a new cast iron piece.

The generators with two wires and cooling holes came on the Fords built right after the Model A. Lots of people use them on the Model A, and they would take the same cutout. The one wire is for the field ground and is fastened under the cutout mounting screw.
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Holy Cow!
I can't believe how quickly you're getting through this truck!
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Thanks for that info about the generators Tom, I appreciate it. As soon as the weather breaks, I am going to start on the cab corner and get the top done. Can't wait to be driving this baby.
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got a good look at the damage done to the driver side roof and cab. Started taking off the metal roof to see what wood was damaged and it looks like a need a new front header (bows are good) and a side rail that is toast! Looks like the rear header or crossmember is still good. What do you think? Driver side door jamb is also cracked about 3-4 inches down from roof side rail. Who should I use to get these three pieces and are they going fit right with my existing wood?





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Don't know if you need it or not, but I have a metal cross member that goes across above the windshield. When I installed a Huckster body on my 29 CCPU, I did not need this part. So I still have it and if you need this, if I could get it to you somehow, would give you a good deal on it. Also, if I remember, I have a couple of little "plate" type parts that go on the top of the window posts. Also a good deal if you need them. Just though I would memtion these if they can be of any use to you.
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It would be good to check the wood at the front header on the passenger side also, those areas have a low survival rate for the wood.

You will most likely have to do some fitting of the new wood to the old wood pieces where the new meets the old. They might be very close fit, you won't know until you get the new pieces. If you are able to buy a new front header, driver side door header, and door jamb wood pieces then you will only have to fit the wood in two places - At the front header to passenger door header, and the rear header to driver’s door header. Those should be easy areas adjust the fit from new to old. There is one small trim piece under the door header that you might also need, it holds the door seal at the top of the door.

There is a mortise and tenon between the door header and the door jamb piece that should fit fine if you buy those pieces new from the same place. I have wood from Classic Wood and the pieces are dimensionally close to the original wood.

You may be better off in buying a complete top wood kit.
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I don't envy you in the least.
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I am going to call classic wood and see if I can order the parts from them. I really want to keep whatever wood I can so I do not think I need the full wood kit as the passenger side looks really good.
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Well, I was wrong. Looks like I am going to end up replacing the entire top wood. I got the steel top off today and decided to just replace it all. What is good has bad spots and tons of nail holes. The top the farmer put on was an old cut in half Coca Cola sign, bummed me out because I also collect soda signs and a Coca Cola sign that big is worth quite alot. Here are some pics from today.



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You'll be better off with all new. You've got a lot of energy. JMO
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I bought my wood kit from Howell's in Texas. It actually fits pretty good. You do need to do some final shaping but it wasn't that bad. Howell's has a really bad reputation on delivery. If you buy through their Ebay store you will get it much quicker. I bought a complete wood kit for the truck including the 'B" pillars and it is going together quite nicely. Short story about my cab corners. I bought new ones from Mac's. Mainly because of the shipping delays with Howell's.They took about a month for them to show up. When the did arrive one of the stampings wasn't formed quite right. I also noticed that they came direct from Howell's. I talked with Mac's and sent them pictures and only asked that they replace the one that wasn't formed right. They tried to get a new one from Mac's but like alot of us have found those people aren't the most customer friendly. Finally Mac's just gave up and credited me in full for both corners. I was able to fix the bad stamping and I am using them on my cab. They actually fit pretty good.
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I have an original cab corner that I am using to repalce the bad one so I know it will fit correctly. Now I am trying to decide who to go with as far as the wood kit. It is between Classic and Ford wood. Going to call them both tomorrow. I like the fact that ford wood offers free shipping. I looked into getting the kit from Snyders because I get most of my parts from them but they want 55.00 just for shipping.
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Decided to go with Classic wood, it was not cheap but you guys praise them so we'll see when the parts get here. I ordered a complete top and two new door posts. The one is still good but I figure if I have the cab that apart, I might as well replace it.
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A most interesting thread and great to follow.

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Had some time today after work to pull the damaged cab corner and see just how out of whack the cab it. I am pleasantly surprised that the cab is rust free and very original. The damage does not go past the cab coner. The top bracket is bent pretty good but I can straighten it out. After replacing the door post and top, and fitting the new original cab corner I have, the cab should be back in shape. The seats are in great shape too but forgot to take a pic of those.



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Looks like a little "fuel" on the floorboard in the first picture above. Looks great and like you are having fun with it. Good luck.
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Old 03-06-2012, 07:15 PM   #98
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Another good day after work. I grabbed my original cab corner I bought and it is mint except for some damage at the bottom so I cut the area out and replaced it with a section of the cab corner that came off the truck (the bottom was super nice). Decided to test fit it and it fit like a glove, even all the original holes to mount it to the center panels lined up. I also test fitted the donor door and the gap is great. Just the swap of the cab corner and door reduced the beltline misalignment by more than half. Shimming should take care of the rest. In the last pic, you can see how the impact of the accident pushed the rear wood crossmember over about an inch, which is what dented the top of the passenger side as it slid over. Wood will be here tomorrow so time to become a carpenter!






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Lookin good!
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Alot of work was done this past week. All new wood top and door jambs have been installed and the body shimmed properly (thanks guys for the shimming help) and I could not be happier. I never showed pics of the driver side because it looked so bad but after today I can show pics of it and be proud. Door alignment is spot on, even without the strikers in place, gotta love that. I only used about 1/4 of the hardware kit I bought, tried to re-use original hardware whenver possible. Next is redoing the cobra long grain top and then it is on the the motor swap and drive it!





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Nice work, it looks great!
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Old 03-19-2012, 01:45 AM   #102
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Man looks great!! Its quarter to midnight here and I wanna go work on my 29 AA truck after seeing your pictures.

Thanks for the motivation

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STILL lookin nice.
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New top kit is going to be here tomorrow, I will post some pics of how it goes on. All the wood has been painted as per Ford. Also ordered all the windlace.
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Lookin good van. You mentioned something earlier in the topic about leaving the paint. Not a hateful idea, and I have a trick to share. Waterless hand cleaner. Not the gritty orange kind, the old Go-Jo type. A soft car wash brush or some old towels, mist it just a bit with water as you go to make it easier to remove. You'll even get some shine out of it.

I too had one back in Dec. All it needed was a wiring harness and a top skin. Even the wood was good. I missed it enough that I had to get another, but I got a 31. Where did you find that number in the "delivered" page pics?
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That number is stamped in front of the seat riser about where your right foot would be. It is on the cross sill. Hope this helps.
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Today I started in on the top. Looked at Marco's photos for reference. I like how it is coming out but my dumb ass forgot that I had no drip rails so they were ordered tonight. I totally forgot about them so I could not finish up the top like I thought I would. They will be here tomorrow so after that I can install the final hidem welt and be done. I really like how this pickup is turning out.

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Nice door alignment!! I looked yesterday for a number in my cab. Nope. Wondering if it's stamped elsewhere being a 31? You're gonna get a lot smiles per gallon outta that truck.
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That is a super nice truck. I hope I can find one similar.
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These are the most recent pics I have. Top is done, I am very happy with how it turned out. Motor is in and old is out. I have had it running and drove it in the yard but it is nowhere near road ready. Brakes work good. I hope to have my wife drive it to a show with me in my coupe and my pops in the 29 roadster. Long way to go.




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Vanspeed, that looks like a real fun project and reminds me of the pickup I used for a shop truck when I owned Classic Auto Refinisher.
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Who did you buy your gutters from??? Can I see a close up on them installed. I am also curious how you finished the back side.
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I am not happy with the gutters but they will work for now. They were from snyders but they are straight and the top is curved, I had to bend them as I went and they went on but now the inserts will not go in. Pain in the but. I would try to find good originals first if I was doing it again.
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I am not happy with the gutters but they will work for now. They were from snyders but they are straight and the top is curved, I had to bend them as I went and they went on but now the inserts will not go in. Pain in the but. I would try to find good originals first if I was doing it again.
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That paint looks great. I hope you keep it just like that. Wheels too. I've done a couple cars where I just did mechanicals and upholstery and left the exterior as I found it. Those cars always got the most looks.
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Yeah no plans to paint the old girl. I like it just the way it is.
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BEAUTIFUL restoration job. Thanks for keeping us "in the know". Appreciate all the before during and after pictures. Thanks for keeping it original.
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Thanks guys for the kind words. I am naturally a hot rodder but when it comes to clean A's, I respect them. This one was just begging to be put back on the road and I think I do a fair job, I try to use original parts whenever possible. I am going to put a stock interior in it next in addition to installing the light harness and getting it road ready.
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What did you use to paint the panel you replaced? it looks like a really close match to the rest of the truck. not too much gloss, either. i like it.
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When you removed the left corner panel on your pickup, were there only bolts holding the panel to the back center upper and lower panels or were there spot welds you had to remove? I have a 29 CCPU that I probably wont get to restoring for a year or two (I need to finish my 28 special coupe and 29 phaeton first), but I am curious as to how the panels are put together and how difficult they are to take apart. I will need to pretty much dismantle the rear section do to rust issues.
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The upper brace had one spot weld holding it to the cab corner, other than that it was just bolts. I had to unfold the bottom slightly as it is folded over the sub-rail. You also have to remove one screw from the map pocket to the door post wood. The paint I used was mixed for me at a shop. I took the bad panel in and had it scanned. I also bought some regular green to mix in if it was off any. It was an oil based enamel from Sherwin Williams. I hit it with scotchbrite to bring the gloss down. Hope this helps.
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It is nice to know there aren't lots of spot welds down the side. I have had to remove a lot of spot welds on my phaeton and it is a pain grinding each weld out. Thanks for the info. Did you receive my PM about the original panels you have?
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'Wonderful truck. Your rate of progress is remarkable. I hope your influence recharges me.
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Got the title back from the Secretary of State on Wednesday, mailed my form in to run my 29 plate on her and ordered a new wiring harness and all the parts needed to make her road ready (mainly headlights/brake lights) By this time next week, she will be ready for her first maiden voyage. Can't wait.
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