The Ford Barn

ETAModel · 02-05-2023, 06:24 PM

Anyone know what it is? I know it's not a T, but maybe Ford's earlier car?
Thanks.

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Lanny · 02-05-2023, 11:26 PM

Just guessing, maybe an Oldsmobile...

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40 Deluxe · 02-06-2023, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ETAModel

Anyone know what it is? I know it's not a T, but maybe Ford's earlier car?
Thanks.

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Put together movie prop, maybe?

29spcoupe · 02-06-2023, 07:04 AM

Possibly an early steam car

redmodelt · 02-06-2023, 07:25 AM

Not Ford and was also thinking steam. Might try asking here:
https://forums.aaca.org/forum/66-what-is-it/

rotorwrench · 02-06-2023, 10:53 AM

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Early curved dash Oldsmobile from the looks of it

15max · 02-06-2023, 02:44 PM

I agree that it is a steam car. I don't recognize the make. The vent louvers below the seat are to vent the boiler.

ETAModel · 02-06-2023, 03:31 PM

Who made steamers other than Stanley?

29spcoupe · 02-06-2023, 05:58 PM

I think it is a Locomobile

redmodelt · 02-06-2023, 08:09 PM

I have see photos of what ever it is. It has the exhaust from burner up and out the back of the deck. Just can not place it, could very well be a Locomobile.

RE: Who made steamers, There were a number of different brands such as Locomobile and White for example.

rotorwrench · 02-07-2023, 01:57 PM

There were a lot of fledgling motor companies in the early 1900s. While it could be a steam powered car, it also could be an internal combustion car as well. Most manufacturers put the drive mechanics below the seat so it was common to many manufacturers. The steamers evolved into larger cars to hold the boiler and condenser as well as the steam engine. I don't think Stanley made one quite like that although the smaller ones were similar.

Dodge · 02-08-2023, 12:42 AM

Its not an Oldsmobile, I am also going with Locomobile.

G Baese · 02-09-2023, 09:45 PM

Not a Stanley, Locomobile either. I thought it was a Duyea at first glance but no.

I believe it is a steam car too, just can't seem to find one that matches it in my literature. Its not one of the seven I've owned... 1900 to 1919.
There were 150 different steam car manufacturers registered in the U.S. between 1894 and 1931, and a few more later on. Oldsmobile did make a prototype steamer,

Having blown up the photo, I can say it is definitely a steamer. You can see the smoke bonnet on the back of the rear deck and it has a vertical engine with chain drive to the rear end. The large rear wheels are curious. No picture of a steamer I have has them and they are usually associated gas or steam with pre-1900 designs. Also, the side panels are decorative and found on most early wood bodied steam cars to stiffen the area around the boiler so that it doesn't crack from expansion and contraction. They are not louvers, the idea with a stem car is to keep the heat in, not out.

Thanks for posting the photo, its been fun investigating. You may wish to go to the Steam Automobile Club of America site and inquire, there are guys over there with more experience and bigger archives than I have. Thanks again ETAModel!

Lanny · 02-10-2023, 01:21 AM

Here is a Headline from an early article.

Ransom Olds built his first crude automobile, powered by a 2 hp Olds steam engine, in 1887

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rotorwrench · 02-10-2023, 07:11 AM

I think he only built the one. He went to internal combustion after that. He was an original pioneer of the automobile. Henry was right on his heels though. The first Ford company had a set back due to investors not having faith with him. This actually helped Henry to be more careful in future business decisions that insured his future success.

02-05-2023, 06:24 PM	#1
ETAModel Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Along the Red River, Texas Posts: 360	What kind of car is this? Anyone know what it is? I know it's not a T, but maybe Ford's earlier car? Thanks. Screenshot_20230205-171752_Facebook.jpg

02-05-2023, 11:26 PM	#2
Lanny Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mn Posts: 2,410	Re: What kind of car is this? Just guessing, maybe an Oldsmobile... . __________________ If mama ain't happy, ain't nobody happy. But if daddy ain't happy...RUN

02-06-2023, 07:04 AM	#4
29spcoupe Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Rhinebeck, NY Posts: 761	Re: What kind of car is this? Possibly an early steam car

02-06-2023, 07:25 AM	#5
redmodelt Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Portland OR Posts: 6,340	Re: What kind of car is this? Not Ford and was also thinking steam. Might try asking here: https://forums.aaca.org/forum/66-what-is-it/ __________________ I know the voices aren't real but damn they have some good ideas!

02-06-2023, 10:53 AM	#6
rotorwrench Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 16,425	Re: What kind of car is this? Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) Early curved dash Oldsmobile from the looks of it

02-06-2023, 02:44 PM	#7
15max Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 327	Re: What kind of car is this? I agree that it is a steam car. I don't recognize the make. The vent louvers below the seat are to vent the boiler.

02-06-2023, 03:31 PM	#8
ETAModel Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Along the Red River, Texas Posts: 360	Re: What kind of car is this? Who made steamers other than Stanley?

02-06-2023, 05:58 PM	#9
29spcoupe Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Rhinebeck, NY Posts: 761	Re: What kind of car is this? I think it is a Locomobile

02-06-2023, 08:09 PM	#10
redmodelt Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Portland OR Posts: 6,340	Re: What kind of car is this? I have see photos of what ever it is. It has the exhaust from burner up and out the back of the deck. Just can not place it, could very well be a Locomobile. RE: Who made steamers, There were a number of different brands such as Locomobile and White for example. __________________ I know the voices aren't real but damn they have some good ideas!

02-07-2023, 01:57 PM	#11
rotorwrench Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 16,425	Re: What kind of car is this? There were a lot of fledgling motor companies in the early 1900s. While it could be a steam powered car, it also could be an internal combustion car as well. Most manufacturers put the drive mechanics below the seat so it was common to many manufacturers. The steamers evolved into larger cars to hold the boiler and condenser as well as the steam engine. I don't think Stanley made one quite like that although the smaller ones were similar.

02-08-2023, 12:42 AM	#12
Dodge Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Sonoma, CA. Posts: 1,496	Re: What kind of car is this? Its not an Oldsmobile, I am also going with Locomobile.

02-09-2023, 09:45 PM	#13
G Baese Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Ft Collins, CO Posts: 80	Re: What kind of car is this? Not a Stanley, Locomobile either. I thought it was a Duyea at first glance but no. I believe it is a steam car too, just can't seem to find one that matches it in my literature. Its not one of the seven I've owned... 1900 to 1919. There were 150 different steam car manufacturers registered in the U.S. between 1894 and 1931, and a few more later on. Oldsmobile did make a prototype steamer, Having blown up the photo, I can say it is definitely a steamer. You can see the smoke bonnet on the back of the rear deck and it has a vertical engine with chain drive to the rear end. The large rear wheels are curious. No picture of a steamer I have has them and they are usually associated gas or steam with pre-1900 designs. Also, the side panels are decorative and found on most early wood bodied steam cars to stiffen the area around the boiler so that it doesn't crack from expansion and contraction. They are not louvers, the idea with a stem car is to keep the heat in, not out. Thanks for posting the photo, its been fun investigating. You may wish to go to the Steam Automobile Club of America site and inquire, there are guys over there with more experience and bigger archives than I have. Thanks again ETAModel! Last edited by G Baese; 02-09-2023 at 10:33 PM. Reason: followup

02-10-2023, 01:21 AM	#14
Lanny Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mn Posts: 2,410	Re: What kind of car is this? Here is a Headline from an early article. Ransom Olds built his first crude automobile, powered by a 2 hp Olds steam engine, in 1887 . __________________ If mama ain't happy, ain't nobody happy. But if daddy ain't happy...RUN

02-10-2023, 07:11 AM	#15
rotorwrench Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 16,425	Re: What kind of car is this? I think he only built the one. He went to internal combustion after that. He was an original pioneer of the automobile. Henry was right on his heels though. The first Ford company had a set back due to investors not having faith with him. This actually helped Henry to be more careful in future business decisions that insured his future success.