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John LaVoy · 02-19-2012, 03:54 PM

While I'm waiting on delivery of the new reproduction radiator shell I'm investigating the two shells I have. This has raised a couple of questions. One it appears on both shells the radiator emblem was spot welded in place rather than just pushed into the shell as it was on the 28-29s I have worked on. Is this the case or do I have two shells that happened to be welded? Second one shell has the top and bottoms removable with tabs holding the pieces in place, the other shell has only the top removable the lower piece being one piece with the shell, when did the change happen?

TinCup · 02-19-2012, 03:56 PM

My shell has only the top piece that is removable. I tried to find this answer as well. My Ford emblem presses on as my 30 did.

Tom Wesenberg · 02-19-2012, 04:33 PM

I thought the change happened at the start of the new 1931 Model. My 31 has the top removable and is a Slant Window Town Sedan with the flat firewall, meaning it's about March or April of 31. I never heard of someone spot welding the emblem to the shell.

peters180a/170b · 02-19-2012, 04:47 PM

I never heard of a emblem spot welded. [but there is always a first] As far as the bottom and top being able to be removed i am told that is on LATER 1931's...

ctlikon0712 · 02-19-2012, 04:56 PM

I have 2, 31 shells and they are both pressed in. The top insert has tabs, not my bottom ones.

Memory betrayed me, bottom has tabs too!

85930tudor · 02-19-2012, 05:06 PM

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I have 1 that the top and bottom is removable. but the emblem is not welded

Richard Wilson · 02-19-2012, 05:52 PM

My Nov 30 Victoria had the emblem spot welded to the shell. I did not notice the three tiny welds and ruined the emblem trying to knock it out with a wooden dowel as had always worked on my 28 and 29 resto's.

John LaVoy · 02-19-2012, 06:26 PM

Thanks, it is really interesting how things were done at the factory. I would guess it varied from location to location.

02-19-2012, 03:54 PM	#1
John LaVoy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Rocklin, CA Posts: 1,219	31 radiator shell questions While I'm waiting on delivery of the new reproduction radiator shell I'm investigating the two shells I have. This has raised a couple of questions. One it appears on both shells the radiator emblem was spot welded in place rather than just pushed into the shell as it was on the 28-29s I have worked on. Is this the case or do I have two shells that happened to be welded? Second one shell has the top and bottoms removable with tabs holding the pieces in place, the other shell has only the top removable the lower piece being one piece with the shell, when did the change happen?

02-19-2012, 03:56 PM	#2
TinCup Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: OKC / Tonkawa, Ok. Posts: 1,977	Re: 31 radiator shell questions My shell has only the top piece that is removable. I tried to find this answer as well. My Ford emblem presses on as my 30 did. __________________ Oklahoma City Model A Restorers Group.

02-19-2012, 04:33 PM	#3
Tom Wesenberg Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mpls, MN Posts: 27,582	Re: 31 radiator shell questions I thought the change happened at the start of the new 1931 Model. My 31 has the top removable and is a Slant Window Town Sedan with the flat firewall, meaning it's about March or April of 31. I never heard of someone spot welding the emblem to the shell. Last edited by Tom Wesenberg; 02-19-2012 at 05:03 PM.

02-19-2012, 04:47 PM	#4
peters180a/170b Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Putnam Valley N.Y. Posts: 2,151	Re: 31 radiator shell questions I never heard of a emblem spot welded. [but there is always a first] As far as the bottom and top being able to be removed i am told that is on LATER 1931's...

02-19-2012, 04:56 PM	#5
ctlikon0712 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Cocoa, Florida Posts: 1,609	Re: 31 radiator shell questions I have 2, 31 shells and they are both pressed in. The top insert has tabs, not my bottom ones. Memory betrayed me, bottom has tabs too! Last edited by ctlikon0712; 02-19-2012 at 05:52 PM.

02-19-2012, 05:06 PM	#6
85930tudor Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: richmond ky Posts: 322	Re: 31 radiator shell questions Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) I have 1 that the top and bottom is removable. but the emblem is not welded

02-19-2012, 05:52 PM	#7
Richard Wilson Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: NC Posts: 908	Re: 31 radiator shell questions My Nov 30 Victoria had the emblem spot welded to the shell. I did not notice the three tiny welds and ruined the emblem trying to knock it out with a wooden dowel as had always worked on my 28 and 29 resto's.

02-19-2012, 06:26 PM	#8
John LaVoy Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Rocklin, CA Posts: 1,219	Re: 31 radiator shell questions Thanks, it is really interesting how things were done at the factory. I would guess it varied from location to location.