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Old 06-02-2022, 10:37 AM   #1
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This question always seems to get some criticism, so I hesitate to throw it out there. However it's difficult to find information on this model in order to form an opinion.


In general terms what would be the current value of an original 1932 Cabriolet that's 90% complete less the engine and transmission?


A friend that I've had for several years recently passed and his family wants me to sell a few vehicles for them. I helped my friend over the years sell some of his unwanted parts and a couple of cars. He had an original 32 Cabriolet waiting to be restored.


I'll get some pictures and information this weekend hopefully. I know prices for the 32 are all over the place and some people will pay out of emotional attachment rather than rational common sense.


Advice appreciated.
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Old 06-02-2022, 10:58 AM   #2
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'32 V 8 engines, had a few problems-probably some one will use a later eng. Was the owner "true blu " He was making some parts for us all and suddenly passed- '32 Cabriolet stuff. ? Newc
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Condition and completeness will dictate the price. If a potential buyer is lookiing for a restoration candidate, the missing enigine is an obvious minus as would be the transmission (or at least the original case) and engine splash pans. Other big minusses would be missing door window trim moldings, top irons, seat frame, door window frames and windshield frame
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Without seeing pictures of the car - such that we can see everything that is on it, versus missing, really hard to form any opinion. We've all seen cars in various states of "originality", so it really matters (especially with a Cabriolet - they're not that many of them out there). I have a 32 Cabriolet - so I'm very versed in all the pieces/parts related to them. If you have pictures, go ahead and post them here - with maybe a written list of the "good, bad and ugly". Also, feel free to PM me.

BTW: When I bought mine . . . it was because of a newly created 'emotional attachment'! LOL
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'32 Cabriolet parts- "Tru Blu" was fabricating bolts for us- top folding bolts. He had 2 '32 Cabriolets. Newc
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'32 Cabriolet parts- "Tru Blu" was fabricating bolts for us- top folding bolts. He had 2 '32 Cabriolets. Newc
No this is a different Ford nut. He specialized in 40 Coupes for a number of years.
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This question always seems to get some criticism, so I hesitate to throw it out there. However it's difficult to find information on this model in order to form an opinion.


In general terms what would be the current value of an original 1932 Cabriolet that's 90% complete less the engine and transmission?


A friend that I've had for several years recently passed and his family wants me to sell a few vehicles for them. I helped my friend over the years sell some of his unwanted parts and a couple of cars. He had an original 32 Cabriolet waiting to be restored.


I'll get some pictures and information this weekend hopefully. I know prices for the 32 are all over the place and some people will pay out of emotional attachment rather than rational common sense.


Advice appreciated.
If you are a V-8 Club member use the roster and look up Charlie Seims in Oregon. He has or had a cabriolet and can probably help you put a value on it. There's also one on e-Bay now and it hasn't sold. It's an older complete restoration.
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Take an inventory of what's there and pictures.To me cabriolets are expensive to restore and in the end-worth it?

That one on EBAY is the same as the one in Hemmings $68,900.One just listed in FB classifieds for $70K.Its probably the same one as is on EBAY. Its not even correct.Not correct distributor,no ashtrays,no engine splash pans and hydraulic brakes from what I could see from the pics posted.It does present well tho.

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Take an inventory of what's there and pictures.To me cabriolets are expensive to restore and in the end-worth it?

That one on EBAY is the same as the one in Hemmings $68,900.One just listed in FB classifieds for $70K.Its probably the same one as is on EBAY. Its not even correct.Not correct distributor,no ashtrays,no engine splash pans and hydraulic brakes from what I could see from the pics posted.It does present well tho.

Yeah that looks like a nice one.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/25552755402...MAAOSwh-5iKRzD
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Old 06-06-2022, 01:57 PM   #10
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So after visiting with the family it turns out they do not want to sell the Cabriolet, but do want to sell a 32 Fordor Sedan. Now some input on the value of the Fordor would be helpful. I took some photos of the Cabriolet for the heck of it. Here are those pictures.
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[QUOTE=I took some photos of the Cabriolet for the heck of it. Here are those pictures.[/QUOTE]










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Are there missing parts somewhere?? As there seems to be many!!!
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I saw some parts on a shelf, like gas tank, front spreader bar and tin trim. Like I said the Cabriolet is not for sale so it doesn't matter at this point. No engine or transmission either.





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Are they going to restore the Cabriolet or is it just going to sit there and deteriorate like so many cars that are Not For Sale?
If, they are going to restore the car, that's great! If not it is a shame.
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Are they going to restore the Cabriolet or is it just going to sit there and deteriorate like so many cars that are Not For Sale?
If, they are going to restore the car, that's great! If not it is a shame.
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Dollar to a doughnut the family will decide NOT to restore the car when they find out
the many costs involved. It will sit and rot away some more. Hope they "wake up" and realize it's not a gold nugget and sell it.
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Looks like they poured a concrete floor every where but where the Cabriolet is??
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Looks like a patch panel on the left side, right side has a funny rust spot running down the quarter (roof leak ?)
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Just my 2cents. Anyone that buys this isn't going to look for an original motor. Maybe.... but that market is very very small. A flathead, yes. Maybe

Now, is it a cool car waiting for whatever. Yes.

Things are only worth what someone will pay. Start high. Work yourself to what they will except. Very cool car. They aren't making anymore of them. If how it continues in it's life is important, you might have to work with someone that might not get you the best dollar but might restore it or respect the feeling or objective.

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Dollar to a doughnut the family will decide NOT to restore the car when they find out
the many costs involved. It will sit and rot away some more. Hope they "wake up" and realize it's not a gold nugget and sell it.

Yep, it's always cheaper to buy a car restored then restore a car. Less you have a wheel barrel of money or time and know-how.


Sometimes having a car linked to family is more important then cost too.




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So after visiting with the family it turns out they do not want to sell the Cabriolet, but do want to sell a 32 Fordor Sedan. Now some input on the value of the Fordor would be helpful. I took some photos of the Cabriolet for the heck of it. Here are those pictures.
How about some info on the Ford if you want a guess on the value. Include a lot of detailed pictures, cellphone pictures are great. Here is something that might be a starting point: https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showt...ghlight=fordor. I have a very original, very early, very tired, 4 cylinder deluxe Fordor that I had hoped to restore someday. I think mine is worth about $12K.

Start a new thread, I think I am the only person that saw reference to the Fordor.

Also work on a better title. The one you used on this thread won't attract the right people.

You might also try your question on HAMB (https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...ssage-board.5/) especially if the car is not stock and the Early Ford V8 site (https://www.earlyfordv8.org/forum/vi...s.cfm?Forum=19).

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Less you have a wheel barrel of money.

Merci....I thought I knew SOME STUFF, but for the life of me, I draw a blank when it comes to a "WHEEL BARREL", especially one full of money. What is a wheel BARREL?


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One 29 Cabriolet for sale here in Ottawa for CAN$20K. Been up for a while. Hoping they don’t think the Cabriolet is worth more than US$6K - $8K in present condition.

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars...l-a/1614793430.
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One 29 Cabriolet for sale here in Ottawa for CAN$20K. Been up for a while. Hoping they don’t think the Cabriolet is worth more than US$6K - $8K in present condition.

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars...l-a/1614793430.
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Merci....I thought I knew SOME STUFF, but for the life of me, I draw a blank when it comes to a "WHEEL BARREL", especially one full of money. What is a wheel BARREL?

Grammar police at full force. Love it as a son of an English teacher. Probably why I was more into design and math. Your correct! (another one to ponder...)


Maybe the only thing equal to a bucket or wheel "barrel" of money... it's naive to suggest this hobby doesn't take money.


You can also use this forum to run me down over spelling. But I run a couple basic flatheads and maintain them as best i can as an average pleb.


Demand is interesting. Not a lot of guys today clambering for a stock model T let alone a A. From boardwalk empire... "maybe your cunny is not the attraction you think it is" As much as I wish it was different. But a lot of us do it for some sort of need. Barrel or bucket.
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