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nkaminar · 10-23-2021, 06:32 AM

I just changed the front seal on my engine. I did soak the seals in oil but I they are the modern rope seals and probably do not soak up any oil. I did not use any sealant in the grooves. I had the pan off for another reason so I replace the rope seal in the pan too. I used the lever method that Crosscut talked about and eventually got two bolts started. I did not fully tighten the bolts and then went to the four pan bolts to bring the cover fully down. I replaced a leaking modern seal. The new rope seal is not leaking. I used a very thin coating of silicone sealant on the gaskets. A very light film of oil on the parts means that the gaskets will release the next time I have to take things apart.

If you replace the spring and trust plunger that pushes against the cam, make sure that it applies enough force and use some grease or assembly lube. I didn't check the force and had to take the cover back off to add some spacers under the spring to cure a cam gear knock.

old ugly · 10-23-2021, 09:52 AM

you can use a nice smooth socket that is a bit smaller than the crank to roll in that goose turd in. use a little oil on the socket so it slips easy, don't compress it too much just roll it in a bit so the cover goes on easier. the new goose turd may be a bit long and may need i tiny bit trimmed off. if it is way too long it will be real hard to get the pan on. i have trimmed some and others seam to go in nice.

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katy · 10-23-2021, 11:44 AM

Quote:

goose turd

We used to call them chicken sh*ts.

Sunny the Model A · 10-23-2021, 04:43 PM

Thanks all, first of all, the reason I took the timing cover off was to replace the gasket as I had ripped it when I was installing a partial flow oil filter kit. I had a problem of oil being sprayed out of the front seal all over the engine bay, so I thought that I could kill two problems in one fix. I am soaking the seals in oil until the other gaskets arrive. because I do not like sitting on my butt waiting, I rebuilt the shift tower today so I can downshift without touching second prematurely. The shift ball on the bottom of the sift lever had turned into a square:0 and the clearance was 70/1000" off:0 so at least I got that out of the way

fried okra · 10-31-2021, 07:12 PM

Hey Sunny....a good local Charleston Model A Ford club in case you are not aware already:

https://www.lowcountrymodela.org/

Sunny the Model A · 10-31-2021, 07:21 PM

Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements)

I plan on joining as soon as I can get sometime off of my scrapping. Thanks for the heads up mate

daren007 · 10-31-2021, 11:33 PM

Easy out. Oxymoron

10-23-2021, 06:32 AM	#21
nkaminar Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Western North Carolina Posts: 3,898	Re: Oh shoot... I just changed the front seal on my engine. I did soak the seals in oil but I they are the modern rope seals and probably do not soak up any oil. I did not use any sealant in the grooves. I had the pan off for another reason so I replace the rope seal in the pan too. I used the lever method that Crosscut talked about and eventually got two bolts started. I did not fully tighten the bolts and then went to the four pan bolts to bring the cover fully down. I replaced a leaking modern seal. The new rope seal is not leaking. I used a very thin coating of silicone sealant on the gaskets. A very light film of oil on the parts means that the gaskets will release the next time I have to take things apart. If you replace the spring and trust plunger that pushes against the cam, make sure that it applies enough force and use some grease or assembly lube. I didn't check the force and had to take the cover back off to add some spacers under the spring to cure a cam gear knock. __________________ A is for apple, green as the sky. Step on the gas, for tomorrow I die. Forget the brakes, they really don't work. The clutch always sticks, and starts with a jerk. My car grows red hair, and flies through the air. Driving's a blast, a blast from the past. Last edited by nkaminar; 10-23-2021 at 06:40 AM.

10-23-2021, 09:52 AM	#22
old ugly Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2021 Location: alberta canada Posts: 585	Re: Oh shoot... you can use a nice smooth socket that is a bit smaller than the crank to roll in that goose turd in. use a little oil on the socket so it slips easy, don't compress it too much just roll it in a bit so the cover goes on easier. the new goose turd may be a bit long and may need i tiny bit trimmed off. if it is way too long it will be real hard to get the pan on. i have trimmed some and others seam to go in nice. ou

10-23-2021, 04:43 PM	#24
Sunny the Model A Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: Charleston SC Posts: 168	Re: Oh shoot... Thanks all, first of all, the reason I took the timing cover off was to replace the gasket as I had ripped it when I was installing a partial flow oil filter kit. I had a problem of oil being sprayed out of the front seal all over the engine bay, so I thought that I could kill two problems in one fix. I am soaking the seals in oil until the other gaskets arrive. because I do not like sitting on my butt waiting, I rebuilt the shift tower today so I can downshift without touching second prematurely. The shift ball on the bottom of the sift lever had turned into a square:0 and the clearance was 70/1000" off:0 so at least I got that out of the way __________________ "Quality means doing it right when no one is looking" Henry Ford Last edited by Sunny the Model A; 10-23-2021 at 04:51 PM. Reason: grammar error, added info

10-31-2021, 07:12 PM	#25
fried okra Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Daniel Island,SouthCarolina/Knoxville, Tennessee/Sanibel Island,Florida Posts: 292	Re: Oh shoot... Hey Sunny....a good local Charleston Model A Ford club in case you are not aware already: https://www.lowcountrymodela.org/

10-31-2021, 07:21 PM	#26
Sunny the Model A Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: Charleston SC Posts: 168	Re: Oh shoot... Sponsored Links (Register now to hide all advertisements) I plan on joining as soon as I can get sometime off of my scrapping. Thanks for the heads up mate __________________ "Quality means doing it right when no one is looking" Henry Ford

10-31-2021, 11:33 PM	#27
daren007 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Saint Cloud Mn Posts: 745	Re: Oh shoot... Easy out. Oxymoron

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