Manifold milling

[marty in Ohio]

Two of my model A friends have a discussion going about milling the surface on the manifolds. One friend, who thinks anything can be fixed by throwing money at it, says that if you change one manifold or the other you must have a machine shop mill the surfaces. My other friend and I put together two manifolds and sighted them. They looked pretty good and we mounted them on the block with copper gaskets. No leaks. My take on it is that any small imperfections are are corrected with the gaskets. Isn't that what gaskets are for?
Marty

[Werner]

Marty,

during the engine revision, I measured the assembled intake and exhaust group against each other. The difference between the inlet group and the outlet group was 1.2 millimeters.

The outlet group alone had a difference of 0.5 millimeters.

The seals can compensate a little bit. But the differences can cause the two elbows to crack and break!


I had that surface grinded in an assembled unit.

[BRENT in 10-uh-C]

Originally Posted by marty in Ohio

Two of my model A friends have a discussion going about milling the surface on the manifolds. One friend, who thinks anything can be fixed by throwing money at it, says that if you change one manifold or the other you must have a machine shop mill the surfaces. My other friend and I put together two manifolds and sighted them. They looked pretty good and we mounted them on the block with copper gaskets. No leaks. My take on it is that any small imperfections are are corrected with the gaskets. Isn't that what gaskets are for?
Marty

Sure, just add a handful of gaskets to overcome any misalignments!


Actually, you probably can attribute your success to 'luck' as most times the two will not align that perfectly. Nothing wrong with having luck though.

[Patrick L.]

Lay a straight edge across the manifolds and see how many thousands difference there is between them. Just eyeballing isn't enough. If its close to .010" take them to a good machine shop to be cut together.. I prefer to cut them if there is over .005"

[Tacoma Bob]

Not having the two "mannies" milled together caused me to throw money at a new exhaust manifold. Lady Luck has rarely been in my world. LOL

[700rpm]

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For $20 (in my town) I just have ‘em milled. No big deal. i’ve got 100x that in the rest of the engine.

[old john]

I used a small slab of granite and a sum belt sander sand paper and sand away did not take long John

[Bob Bidonde]

There are two 5/16-18x3/4 bolts that connect the intake & exhaust manifolds to make a hot spot warmer for the intake. If the manifolds are not flush to the cylinder block, then one or both 5/16 bolts will crack the intake manifold.
It is wise to have both 5/16 bolts out of the manifolds when mounting the manifolds to the cylinder block. Thus if there is any misalignment / gaps between manifolds, they can be detected and corrected before any damage occurs.

[Patrick L.]

Originally Posted by Bob Bidonde

There are two 5/16-18x3/4 bolts that connect the intake & exhaust manifolds to make a hot spot warmer for the intake. If the manifolds are not flush to the cylinder block, then one or both 5/16 bolts will crack the intake manifold.
It is wise to have both 5/16 bolts out of the manifolds when mounting the manifolds to the cylinder block. Thus if there is any misalignment / gaps between manifolds, they can be detected and corrected before any damage occurs.

I agree. I leave them loose/snug once mounted. I don't think they need to be tight.